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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 pm
by kazuma
Does this dune support bdmv and iso with menu's?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 pm
by shawnc22
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 pm Does this dune support bdmv and iso with menu's?
Probably more important question is whether this dune can properly decode dual layer (single track or dual track) DV. Not sure if anyone actually has one in hand yet, but I'm guessing it'll be soon and then we'll see.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:41 pm
by kuka7
Sorry if I insist, maybe you lost my message due to post approvation.

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 35#p104635

Can someone help me?
Thanks

(point c, if I understand correctly, the right answer is 2 video tracks)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:43 pm
by kazuma
shawnc22 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 pm
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 pm Does this dune support bdmv and iso with menu's?
Probably more important question is whether this dune can properly decode dual layer (single track or dual track) DV. Not sure if anyone actually has one in hand yet, but I'm guessing it'll be soon and then we'll see.
if he can play bdmv and iso, than he can play dual DV.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:44 pm
by Manixx2020beyound
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 pm Does this dune support bdmv and iso with menu's?
Yes full Network/files/iso/folder
Lite menu & full menu support
I have the the 4kpro it supports full menu iso folder playback I assume it’s the same as well. The spec’s are there.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:49 pm
by shawnc22
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:43 pm
shawnc22 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 pm
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 pm Does this dune support bdmv and iso with menu's?
Probably more important question is whether this dune can properly decode dual layer (single track or dual track) DV. Not sure if anyone actually has one in hand yet, but I'm guessing it'll be soon and then we'll see.
if he can play bdmv and iso, than he can play dual DV.
Not necessarily, bdmv and isos are backwards hdr10 compatible, so these Dunes can vary well be able to load the menus and play the movies, but at the same time not be able to decode DV and fallback to HDR10.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:03 pm
by kazuma
shawnc22 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:49 pm
kazuma wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:43 pm
shawnc22 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 pm
Probably more important question is whether this dune can properly decode dual layer (single track or dual track) DV. Not sure if anyone actually has one in hand yet, but I'm guessing it'll be soon and then we'll see.
if he can play bdmv and iso, than he can play dual DV.
Not necessarily, bdmv and isos are backwards hdr10 compatible, so these Dunes can vary well be able to load the menus and play the movies, but at the same time not be able to decode DV and fallback to HDR10.
the specs says it's supporting dolby vision. i think it does. but the question is, is the extra money worth comparing with the chinoppo? 350usd vs 450usd (dune)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:00 pm
by RESET_9999
DV could be only supported for Streaming apps....
I really hope it supports dual-layer FEL + lossless audio with PLEX. If it does, I think I'm going to buy one.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:46 pm
by XTrojan
Anyone know if the new Google ChromeCast (4th generation) can playback DV BluRays formats with full support FEL etc?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:09 am
by shawnc22
XTrojan wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:46 pm Anyone know if the new Google ChromeCast (4th generation) can playback DV BluRays formats with full support FEL etc?
It cannot
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:00 pm DV could be only supported for Streaming apps....
I really hope it supports dual-layer FEL + lossless audio with PLEX. If it does, I think I'm going to buy one.
Hoping I'm wrong but I noticed that this new Dune player has the same SoC (Realtek RTD1619) as the new Zidoo players, and those are only compatible with MEL. Who knows, but maybe it's a software/licensing limitation this time that the Dune guys have somehow gotten around.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 am
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:22 pm
kws53 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:17 pm Thanks. So - Latest TSMuxer release (JustDan) is the perfect way to go creating DT DL P7.
Final question - your signature refers to a .TS file from DolbyLabs (I downloaded) and you refer to it "fixing" a DL problem on the x700? I'm confused based on what you say above...
yeah, the TS/M2TS files created by tsMuxer have a bug.
When you stop playback of a DT-DL TS file, the next file you play will have a green or purple tint on it. The x700 and the Oppo somehow get locked in that mode and only(besides rebooting) playing the TS demo file in my signature will unlock the player. I think playing back an original UHD-BD should unlock the player as well.
man that's annoying. This happens to every file? Even if we stop the playback of a file and play the same file again, it will have the tint?

Any other bugs on this x700 that I should know about besides this tint and forced flags sub issue? I'm looking to buy one and an avr/speaker setup that comes with it so it will be a pretty big purchase as a whole and I want to make sure every part meets my needs.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:53 am
by daddy
kuka7 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:24 am b- is there an easy way to rip BD with DV and play them with Oled LG E8 internal player? (Plex app on LG doesn't support mkv with DV)
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 525#p76820

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:56 am
by DaMacFunkin
shawnc22 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:09 am
XTrojan wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:46 pm Anyone know if the new Google ChromeCast (4th generation) can playback DV BluRays formats with full support FEL etc?
It cannot
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:00 pm DV could be only supported for Streaming apps....
I really hope it supports dual-layer FEL + lossless audio with PLEX. If it does, I think I'm going to buy one.
Hoping I'm wrong but I noticed that this new Dune player has the same SoC (Realtek RTD1619) as the new Zidoo players, and those are only compatible with MEL. Who knows, but maybe it's a software/licensing limitation this time that the Dune guys have somehow gotten around.
I own the Zidoo and their rhetoric is the same as Nvidia- no official Profile 7 support for media players.
The fact that profile 7 does work as Mel is something you sense they will turn a blind eye too, as long as Dolby doesn’t kick off, their main selling point is Dolby Vision support in apps and the VS10 engine.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:04 am
by DaMacFunkin
RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:35 pm
kws53 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:26 pm Now that it is clear that the Shield/CX has a problem with DV, does it make sense to remux the DV releases to HDR10 (drop the EL+RPU layer)? Or is what we are seeing equivalent to HDR10, only labelled as DV?
while it's ignoring the EL, you are still getting dynamic HDR from the Shield. It's no better than HDR10plus and it's superior to HDR10.
But yes, because of the red push issue, I think HDR10 is better. Not anyone will notice the issue though, there are a couple of clowns on avsforum that say we are all crazy and that the red push does not exist.
So if you don't really care about color accuracy and losing FEL, the shield DV output is fine.

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What bell end that guy is.
I own a colorimeter, a spectrometer a licence for Calman home and a licence for Chromapure, I’ve been calibrating my sets for years, and the Shield is wrong, even on some HDR10 movies I look at the picture and think “that isn’t suppose to look like that..”
Out if the 4 main media players I use Shield (2019 or 2017, I own 3 shields) has the least desirable pic, I would rate Oppo clone tops for DV obvs, Zidoo Z9X tops for HDR10, and the Firestick 4K tops for frame rate accurate streaming.
The shield does a lot of things, but there isn’t one thing it does which is tip top.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:39 pm
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:10 am man that's annoying. This happens to every file? Even if we stop the playback of a file and play the same file again, it will have the tint?

Any other bugs on this x700 that I should know about besides this tint and forced flags sub issue? I'm looking to buy one and an avr/speaker setup that comes with it so it will be a pretty big purchase as a whole and I want to make sure every part meets my needs.
unfortunately yes, every time. It's a tsmuxer bug though because the same happens when you play TS/MT2S DV file on the oppo. Strangely the single track dual layer files don't have this issue but some ST-DL file just wont play at all
It honestly doesn't bother me that much since I never watch two movies in a row. But it did annoy me a lot when I watched Westworld a couple of months ago.

here are the main issues:
- red/green tint after TS/M2TS DV playback (you can use the file in my signature to unlock the player)
- no automatic forced subs
- no FF / RW for the longer movies (2h20+)
- a slow ethernet port.
- you have to turn off DV when you want to watch HDR10.