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RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:55 pm

deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:34 pm Ah yeah I saw your signature

What is you audio setup? Dolby atmos? Is the x700 able to output dolby atmos to the receiver while playing m2ts dolby vision files?

yep, the x700 can output any lossless audio format + Dolby Vision FEL. Subtitles also work. Cinavia free as well

Is it really cinavia free? Even my old BDP-S6700 has it. And I heard (a long time ago though that) sony is the only studio to use cinavia protection on its discs.

magnetoeric wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:04 pm
Is it really cinavia free? Even my old BDP-S6700 has it. And I heard (a long time ago though that) sony is the only studio to use cinavia protection on its discs.

I don't know about burned bluray disc playback but via USB file playback, yes it is cinavia free.
bought mine 3 years ago and never updated the firmware, maybe someone who bought it recently can confirm that nothing changed...

quietvoid wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:39 pm

lexyz wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:57 am I wonder is possbile to force non-dv video to play as dv via kodi on Shield TV?

I don't know about the Shield, but the Firestick only triggers Dolby Vision for the TV when there is proper metadata.
Otherwise, there is an option to have Dolby Vision enabled all the time. I don't think the Shield can do that.

jayf95 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:56 am I'm out of the loop. Kodi can pay DV content now? Is this only for mp4s or mkvs as well?

MP4s with official releases, MKVs with custom builds: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?ti ... pid3003730

Thanks! Do you know if those custom builds only work on Shield, or can I sideload it on TVs (such as my sony x900h) with android TV?

jayf95 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:38 pm Thanks! Do you know if those custom builds only work on Shield, or can I sideload it on TVs (such as my sony x900h) with android TV?

They work on the Shield and Firestick, at least these: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=360018
Some reports that it works for some on Sony in that thread, you'd have to try for yourself.

RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:30 pm

AndreasT wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:26 pm Is it still required to manually change the output mode to DV or has that been changed in any recent update?

Then you could say use MKV container for HDR10/SDR? ----> Well just like tsmuxer, this player only supports TrueHD audio with an AC3 core.

It's not really an issue for me since I only use it for DV content and I use my madvr HTPC for SDR/HDR10.

Sorry I don't really understand this part... Say a movie is hdr10 only, why don't you play the m2ts file using the x700 but a htpc instead?

Just got a LG CX and was thinking of re-ripping my BluRays for Dolby Vision playback, however after reading this thread it seems there's many issues with DV.
I use the Internal LG CX Player and also have a Nvidia Shield with Plex. After reading around some it seems TV-Led DV seems superior which means limiting myself to dual layer mp4 instead of using Plex on the Shield.
But from reading around the internal player has playback Issues, and the Shield has the color palette issue as well as not supporting FEL (unsure if the internal player supports FEL?).

Is there any "bug-free" method of playing back Dolby Vision right now with all it's features (FEL+MEL, whatever you name it) or should I just keep myself to HDR10?

deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:18 am Sorry I don't really understand this part... Say a movie is hdr10 only, why don't you play the m2ts file using the x700 but a htpc instead?

Because I would have to turn off Dolby vision every time I want to watch HDR10/SDR otherwise, HDR10/SDR content would be in fake DV.
Anyway, even if there was an auto-switch mode for DV/HDR10 on the x700, I would still use my HTPC for HDR10/SDR because it's much more practical. plus nothing can beat madVR when there is up-scaling involved (I have an RTX3070 ).
Also, I will use the Shield for MEL DV movies if they ever fix the red push issue. So eventually on my end, the x700 will only be good for FEL movies

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:26 am Is there any "bug-free" method of playing back Dolby Vision right now with all it's features (FEL+MEL, whatever you name it) or should I just keep myself to HDR10?

The Sony X700 or X800 or the Oppo.

deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:18 am Sorry I don't really understand this part... Say a movie is hdr10 only, why don't you play the m2ts file using the x700 but a htpc instead?

Because I would have to turn off Dolby vision every time I want to watch HDR10/SDR content . otherwise, with DV turned on it would be in fake DV.
Anyway, even if there was an auto-match mode for DV/HDR10 on the x700, I would still use my HTPC for HDR10/SDR because it's much more practical. plus nothing can beat madVR when there is up-scaling involved (I have an RTX3070 ).
Also, I will use the Shield for MEL DV movies if they ever fix the red push issue. So eventually on my end, the x700 will only be good for FEL movies

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:26 am Is there any "bug-free" method of playing back Dolby Vision right now with all it's features (FEL+MEL, whatever you name it) or should I just keep myself to HDR10?

The Sony X700 or X800 or the Oppo.

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:38 am

deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:18 am Sorry I don't really understand this part... Say a movie is hdr10 only, why don't you play the m2ts file using the x700 but a htpc instead?

Because I would have to turn off Dolby vision every time I want to watch HDR10/SDR otherwise, HDR10/SDR content would be in fake DV.
Anyway, even if there was an auto-switch mode for DV/HDR10 on the x700, I would still use my HTPC for HDR10/SDR because it's much more practical. plus nothing can beat madVR when there is up-scaling involved (I have an RTX3070 ).
Also, I will use the Shield for MEL DV movies if they ever fix the red push issue. So eventually on my end, the x700 will only be good for FEL movies

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:26 am Is there any "bug-free" method of playing back Dolby Vision right now with all it's features (FEL+MEL, whatever you name it) or should I just keep myself to HDR10?

The Sony X700 or X800 or the Oppo.

Don't know about the Sonys, but the Oppos are player led Dolby Visions I think? HDTV Test ran a comparison and there was a noticeable difference between the internal Bravia player and the Oppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:40 am Don't know about the Sonys, but the Oppos are player led Dolby Visions I think? HDTV Test ran a comparison and there was a noticeable difference between the internal Bravia player and the Oppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4

oppo and sony support both modes. tv-led and player-led
with your CX you will be getting tv-led DV, don't worry.

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:44 am

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:40 am Don't know about the Sonys, but the Oppos are player led Dolby Visions I think? HDTV Test ran a comparison and there was a noticeable difference between the internal Bravia player and the Oppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_a77zJTrO4

oppo and sony support both modes. tv-led and player-led
with your CX you will be getting tv-led DV, don't worry.

I see, is it guaranteed though that the Shield will never support FEL, fix the red tint issue and start supporting all DV profiles? I'm unsure about the LG CX internal player other than that it's limited to these mp4 rips and currently doesn't work according to some recent posts, it did in the past however support all dolby vision profiles and MEL+FEL? Correct me if i'm wrong, kinda new into this dolby vision stuff.

Is the red tint and FEL support such a big problem? Is it a problem for general watching? I'm pretty content and happy with my Shield, otherwise.

RESET_9999 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:39 am

deadchip12 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:18 am Sorry I don't really understand this part... Say a movie is hdr10 only, why don't you play the m2ts file using the x700 but a htpc instead?

Because I would have to turn off Dolby vision every time I want to watch HDR10/SDR content . otherwise, with DV turned on it would be in fake DV.
Anyway, even if there was an auto-match mode for DV/HDR10 on the x700, I would still use my HTPC for HDR10/SDR because it's much more practical. plus nothing can beat madVR when there is up-scaling involved (I have an RTX3070 ).
Also, I will use the Shield for MEL DV movies if they ever fix the red push issue. So eventually on my end, the x700 will only be good for FEL movies

XTrojan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:26 am Is there any "bug-free" method of playing back Dolby Vision right now with all it's features (FEL+MEL, whatever you name it) or should I just keep myself to HDR10?

The Sony X700 or X800 or the Oppo.

I have a few more questions:
-what is the usb port on the x700? Is it usb 3.0? For high bitrate movies, is there any problem (e.g. stuttering, freezing) playing the dolby vision m2ts file straight from the external hdd connected to the x700? Gemini Man in 4k 60fps dolby vision is an example. That file stutters like hell on my c9, but probably that's because the c9's chip is not powerful enough, not because of the usb speed.
-why do you need the Shield when you have a powerful pc and the x700 that can play everything I wonder?

DaMacFunkin wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:52 am

JavierAlbadalejo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:52 am

deadchip12 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:35 am So oled tvs' internal media player and the oppo 203 are still the best ways to watch these DV remuxes?

But TV internal players aren't the best for playback, they lack chapters, may lack capacity for some audios (LG CX for example lacks DTS support).. lacks PGS support.. is it really worth it?

Your right, it probably isn’t worth the hassle, I have gone back to ripping FEL titles as Movie only ISO and watching on the Chinoppo, I upgraded my server with an extra 24tb of the Christmas break so I’ve got space to play with for a while.
Do love the convenience of Kodi / Plex/ HT4 though

Have you tried the method outlined here for integrating Emby with your chinoppo:

https://www.avpasion.com/foro/t/xnoppo- ... 9205.2779/

Seems promising and could be the best of both worlds if you can get it work.

JavierAlbadalejo wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:06 am Is the red tint and FEL support such a big problem? Is it a problem for general watching? I'm pretty content and happy with my Shield, otherwise.

Hi, I would say if you are content with the output of the shield, don’t see the red push and don’t see the difference in ‘some’ movies without the FEL layer, then you don’t really need Dolby Vision.
You will be fine with HDR10.