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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:39 pm
by Ride_UL
mattmarsden wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:25 pm
Could someone point me to the tools I need to make a BL+RPU (not BL+EL+RPU) from a FEL UHD file? I think I need the resultant file in profile 8.1. Thanks!
Check this out
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 970#p96282
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:38 am
by kazuma
deadchip12 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:47 am
So an oled CX owner on avsforum just confirmed with me that the tv's internal media player couldn't play this DV DL test file properly:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NK71Ck ... XLXEa/view
On my C9 it looked fine and played fine. Seems like LG did remove the ability to play dual layer dolby vision file from the CX (and probably upcoming oled tvs as well). That sucks.
what a mess. i'm happy i've bought an m9201.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:23 am
by deadchip12
AndreasT wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:39 pm
To throw in a little detail to the mix. CX can play Dual Track DV MP4 files, but the file has to have been made using mp4muxer v1.0.0.
Is there a way to know which one is what version?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:25 am
by AndreasT
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:23 am
AndreasT wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:39 pm
To throw in a little detail to the mix. CX can play Dual Track DV MP4 files, but the file has to have been made using mp4muxer v1.0.0.
Is there a way to know which one is what version?
If you use MediaInfo you can see what is called "Alternate Group", I think it was, set to 1 for both the BL and EL+RPU tracks for a file created with mp4muxer v1.0.1. The BL track is also set to "Default: yes".
This information is as I remember not visible with MediaInfo for a file created using mp4muxer v1.0.0.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:32 am
by deadchip12
Is the x700 able to play dolby vision m2ts file directly? Thinking of investing in a bluray player instead of relying on the oled's internal player.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am
by Donpoku
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:32 am
Is the x700 able to play dolby vision m2ts file directly? Thinking of investing in a bluray player instead of relying on the oled's internal player.
Yes
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:55 pm
by deadchip12
Donpoku wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:32 am
Is the x700 able to play dolby vision m2ts file directly? Thinking of investing in a bluray player instead of relying on the oled's internal player.
Yes
Really? Since the x700 is relatively cheap, maybe people should just buy it and play the dolby vision m2ts files from it instead of going through troubles to create working dolby vision mp4 files?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:08 pm
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:55 pm
Donpoku wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:32 am
Is the x700 able to play dolby vision m2ts file directly? Thinking of investing in a bluray player instead of relying on the oled's internal player.
Yes
Really? Since the x700 is relatively cheap, maybe people should just buy it and play the dolby vision m2ts files from it instead of going through troubles to create working dolby vision mp4 files?
that's what a lot of us here have been doing for months

The file needs to be remuxed with tsmuxer to M2TS or TS though. Still easier and faster than the mp4 method.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:34 pm
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:08 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:55 pm
Donpoku wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am
Yes
Really? Since the x700 is relatively cheap, maybe people should just buy it and play the dolby vision m2ts files from it instead of going through troubles to create working dolby vision mp4 files?
that's what a lot of us here have been doing for months

The file needs to be remuxed with tsmuxer to M2TS or TS though. Still easier and faster than the mp4 method.
Ah yeah I saw your signature
What is you audio setup? Dolby atmos? Is the x700 able to output dolby atmos to the receiver while playing m2ts dolby vision files?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:55 pm
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:34 pm
Ah yeah I saw your signature
What is you audio setup? Dolby atmos? Is the x700 able to output dolby atmos to the receiver while playing m2ts dolby vision files?
yep, the x700 can output any lossless audio format + Dolby Vision FEL. Subtitles also work. Cinavia free as well
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:26 pm
by AndreasT
RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:08 pm
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:55 pm
Donpoku wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:36 am
Yes
Really? Since the x700 is relatively cheap, maybe people should just buy it and play the dolby vision m2ts files from it instead of going through troubles to create working dolby vision mp4 files?
that's what a lot of us here have been doing for months

The file needs to be remuxed with tsmuxer to M2TS or TS though. Still easier and faster than the mp4 method.
Is it known why tsMuxer has to be used to remux the m2ts file from the disc again to m2ts? Is the m2ts files on the discs wrong in some way?
Is it still required to manually change the output mode to DV or has that been changed in any recent update?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:45 pm
by RESET_9999
AndreasT wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Is it known why tsMuxer has to be used to remux the m2ts file from the disc again to m2ts? Is the m2ts files on the discs wrong in some way?
Is it still required to manually change the output mode to DV or has that been changed in any recent update?
The DV flags are somewhere else for a uhd-bd structure (not in the m2ts file itself).
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:18 pm
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:45 pm
AndreasT wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Is it known why tsMuxer has to be used to remux the m2ts file from the disc again to m2ts? Is the m2ts files on the discs wrong in some way?
Is it still required to manually change the output mode to DV or has that been changed in any recent update?
The DV flags are somewhere else for a uhd-bd structure (not in the m2ts file itself).
Which version of tsmuxer should we use in this case? And is it simply adding the original m2ts file into tsmuxer and click ts muxing?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:20 pm
by RESET_9999
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:18 pm
Which version of tsmuxer should we use in this case? And is it simply adding the original m2ts file into tsmuxer and click ts muxing?
the latest one ... yep drag&drop and click
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... htly#files
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:30 pm
by RESET_9999
AndreasT wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:26 pm
Is it still required to manually change the output mode to DV or has that been changed in any recent update?
If you use the x700 for HDR10 content as well, then yes you have to turn off DV otherwise this player applies fake DV to any TS or M2TS file (even bluray discs).
Then how do I know if the tsmuxer files are true DV? ------> just look at the player OSD.
Then you could say use MKV container for HDR10/SDR? ----> Well just like tsmuxer, this player only supports TrueHD audio with an AC3 core.
It's not really an issue for me since I only use it for DV content and I use my madvr HTPC for SDR/HDR10.