Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Psnjerry
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 am
i use dvdfab to make the dolby vision movies and i heard that it produces a fake dolby vision

i have a sample i made and if someone can test it against the method everyone uses in this forum.

thats if you have back to the future part 1 lol

https://mega.nz/file/NYgknYSa#aiz7hO8WT ... rAas_crLgo
i figured out how you guys are doing it lol. so easy. guess ill be testing myself.
Psnjerry
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:46 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 am
i use dvdfab to make the dolby vision movies and i heard that it produces a fake dolby vision

i have a sample i made and if someone can test it against the method everyone uses in this forum.

thats if you have back to the future part 1 lol

https://mega.nz/file/NYgknYSa#aiz7hO8WT ... rAas_crLgo
i figured out how you guys are doing it lol. so easy. guess ill be testing myself.
i seem to get the same results when i use mp4muxer and dvdfab. using dvdfab to make one stream causes it to have crushed blacks. 2 video streams work
Last edited by Psnjerry on Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:00 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:46 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:41 am
i use dvdfab to make the dolby vision movies and i heard that it produces a fake dolby vision

i have a sample i made and if someone can test it against the method everyone uses in this forum.

thats if you have back to the future part 1 lol

https://mega.nz/file/NYgknYSa#aiz7hO8WT ... rAas_crLgo
i figured out how you guys are doing it lol. so easy. guess ill be testing myself.
i seem to get the same results with yusesope tools and dvdfab when i make mp4 into a 2 stream to play on c9 default app, making a one stream gives you crushed blacks.
don't use yusecope's tools or dvdfab when making mp4s for c9 playback, use mp4muxer.
Psnjerry
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:34 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:00 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:46 am


i figured out how you guys are doing it lol. so easy. guess ill be testing myself.
i seem to get the same results with yusesope tools and dvdfab when i make mp4 into a 2 stream to play on c9 default app, making a one stream gives you crushed blacks.
don't use yusecope's tools or dvdfab when making mp4s for c9 playback, use mp4muxer.
i meant mp4muxer. it looks the same to me but why you say i shouldn't use dvdfab?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:11 pm
pete19 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:58 am

could you share the cmd to take a LLDV HDR screenshot via ffmpeg ?
by time in second:

Code: Select all

ffmpeg.exe -ss 3200 -i X:\video.mkv -vframes 1 X:\transfer=hdr.png
by frame number:

Code: Select all

ffmpeg.exe -i X:\video.mkv -vf select='eq(n\,6672)' -vframes 1 X:\transfer=hdr.png
thanks. so how do you convert the png file to SDR ? ffmpeg as well or madvr ? can you share your process ?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

pete19 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:08 pm

thanks. so how do you convert the png file to SDR ? ffmpeg as well or madvr ? can you share your process ?
I use madVR because I consider it the best HDR to SDR tone mapping but it probably can be done with ffmpeg. I don't know how though.
So just open the png in MPC-BE/HC/madVR. it needs ''transfer=hdr'' in the filename.
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:26 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:34 am
Psnjerry wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:00 am


i seem to get the same results with yusesope tools and dvdfab when i make mp4 into a 2 stream to play on c9 default app, making a one stream gives you crushed blacks.
don't use yusecope's tools or dvdfab when making mp4s for c9 playback, use mp4muxer.
i meant mp4muxer. it looks the same to me but why you say i shouldn't use dvdfab?
Unless something changed, I believe DVDFAB strips away the EL in their DV MP4 conversion. You can verify this with mediainfo if you see only one video track that's labeled BL+RPU.
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shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:15 pm

Unless something changed, I believe DVDFAB strips away the EL in their DV MP4 conversion. You can verify this with mediainfo if you see only one video track that's labeled BL+RPU.
you can set it in dvdfap:
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if you choose EL+RPU than you get it:
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i just tested it with Saving Private Ryan, it has an FEL.

If I choose DV Single Layer for playback on my LG CX9 i get brightness pumping.
If I choose DV Dual Layer, the CX9 doesn´t play, but the LG UBK90 plays it correct.

I think all movies with empty EL (MEL) can be ripped in DV SL.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... st12116287
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agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:41 pm

I think all movies with empty EL (MEL) can be ripped in DV SL.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... st12116287
I think so, I don't see any difference between BL+RPU(profile 8 ) vs dual-track dual-layer MEL(profile 7) on my Sony x700
plus the MEL movies can also be re-encoded. Thank's to @quietvoid rpu extractor.
agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:41 pm

If I choose DV Single Layer for playback on my LG CX9 i get brightness pumping.

did you try with profile 8 ? i think DVDFAB still produces profile 5 file which is incorrect for HDR10 BL.
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this makes DVDFab with DV SL, can´t be set.
the MEL movies can also be re-encoded. Thank's to @quietvoid rpu extractor.
did you try with profile 8 ?
How can I create Profile 8 with reencoded FEL ?

Of course you can´t see any difference between a empty (M)EL and no EL.

Private Ryan´s FEL is pumping when you look only the FEL on Media Player Classic, looks very strange :lol:
The quality is bad + brightness pumping if you watch it without FEL. The FEL is necassary.
I tried to watch, but after 20min i switched to HDR10.

Today I could convince myself from the real DV Version of Ryan :arrow: its very nice.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by calibra3 »

Roberespa wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:01 pm
* Tutorial on how to convert an .iso movie with HDR10 and Dolby Vision to .m2ts *

* This tutorial is primarily intended for all novice users who don't want to read all these forum pages. you will get a good result. Without having to do a lot of tests and trials until you get it. *

(This is something that I miss a lot, that from minute one you start reading this new and very tedious thing. So now that I know how to do it; so that you don't spend hours and hours I have decided to do my personal tutorial with the aim of help them.)

The first thing you need is to have all these programs updated in their latest version, otherwise it will not work !:

MakeMKV
tsMuxeR:
on page 259 the user "RESET_9999" offers us the link to the latest versions of tsMuxeR.
ffmpeg
Unzip this program to C: \ and rename the folder (call it) ffmpeg | In Windows environment variables (you can search for it in search box) open it
Give Environment Variables, double click on Patch, click again and type the path C: \ ffmpeg \ bin OK, OK and OK. This tells the CMD that you know the ffmpeg commands for easier access.

Once these programs are installed or updated:

1º Use MakeMKV open the UHD iso with Dolby Vision and extract the video track. (Check only the video track, uncheck all other audio subtitles, etc.) In short uncheck everything so that you only save the video track.
2º Open the "cmd" (Command Prompt) as administrator and write> ffmpeg -i Rings.mkv -map 0: 0 -c copy T: \ BL_EL_RPU.hevc * With this I manage to merge the 2 layers in a single file with the possibility to disjoin *
Rings.mkv is the name of the mkv that contains only the video obtained from the MakeMKV program, I write the correct name in my case, I change the name to make it easier for me. T: \ (I'm telling you to save the result in that directory.) BL_EL_RPU.hevc is the name that the final file should have.

Use tsMuxeR and open "BL_EL_RPU.hevc" To put the audios and subtitles that you mount in a virtual unit, the FULL-UHD Dolby Vision.iso adds 00073.m2ts unchecks the two video tracks (only adds the audio tracks and subtitles) or previously with tsMuxeR you make a DEMUX to simply add the audio tracks and subtitles to the "BL_EL_RPU.hevc" and give it to create a .ts or .m2ts video file (I recommend .m2ts because it is the purest).
and ready.

Step 1 creates a video file with HDR10 and Dolby Vison but most televisions do not open it, so you have to do step 2 and 3 that I mention.
I hope it will be very helpful to new users. I spent many hours reading and testing. It gave me a lot of mistakes. But with this method everything works perfectly.


You will get a .m2ts or .ts file with HDR10 and Dolby Vision valid for the vast majority of televisions.
Hello from Spain Rober.
Please can you tell me how to do if I have two disc for example of hobbx or LOTR???
How I can merge the two disk to do your tutorial?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:45 pm
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this makes DVDFab with DV SL, can´t be set.
you have to use yusesope tools or demux your dvdfab mp4 file and then remux with the mp4muxer to profile 8.
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 970#p96282
agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:45 pm

How can I create Profile 8 with reencoded FEL ?
you can't ''properly'' re-encode and preserve FEL.

You could re-encode to mel with @quietvoid rpu extractor + x265.exe
https://github.com/quietvoid/dovi_tool/ ... /0.1.0-fix
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:41 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:15 pm

Unless something changed, I believe DVDFAB strips away the EL in their DV MP4 conversion. You can verify this with mediainfo if you see only one video track that's labeled BL+RPU.
you can set it in dvdfap:
image_24338.png

if you choose EL+RPU than you get it:
22.png

i just tested it with Saving Private Ryan, it has an FEL.

If I choose DV Single Layer for playback on my LG CX9 i get brightness pumping.
If I choose DV Dual Layer, the CX9 doesn´t play, but the LG UBK90 plays it correct.

I think all movies with empty EL (MEL) can be ripped in DV SL.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... st12116287
Ah that's interesting. I didn't know that dvdfab can now produce the same results as mp4muxer and that the ubk90 can actually play these dual track files. Wonder if it can do the same with TS files
agneva
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Post by agneva »

Didn't try .TS yet, just m2ts.
Do you think ts could work with DV DL too?
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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agneva wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:38 pm
Didn't try .TS yet, just m2ts.
Do you think ts could work with DV DL too?
Not sure if anyone's tested, but the x700 can. If the ubk90 can as well, then that potentially adds another device to the list that can play real FEL DV w/lossless audio.
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