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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:08 pm
by RESET_9999
userr wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:48 pm
makemkv lists LOTR as BL+MEL+RPU
well, BDinfo is probably more accurate because it scans the whole movie bitrate. Makemkv thought the Spears and Munsil DV file were both MEL too.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:10 pm
by RESET_9999
quietvoid wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:05 pm
LOTR 1 at least is MEL, the values in the RPU coincide with what Dolby says to recognize MEL.
strange Bdinfo say its FEL.
I thought the point of using MEL, was to not take more space on the disc. But the MEL track on the Spears and munsill is also in the 2mb/s if I remember correctly. I don't think I ever noticed a mel movie with more than 100kbps bitrate
Disc Title: The.Lord.of.the.Rings.The.Fellowship.of.the.Ring.2001.DISC1
Disc Size: 73,422,813,471 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00803.MPLS
Length: 1:45:43.378
Size: 72,402,579,456 bytes
Total Bitrate: 91.31 Mbps
Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 67684 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2099 kbps (3.01%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits /
Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:17 pm
by RESET_9999
Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:55 pm
That Dolby Vision does not play without being in .mp4 "is false".
No one said that. We are telling you that if your playback device is the LG B6, your best option is dual layer MP4
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:45 pm
by quietvoid
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:10 pmstrange Bdinfo say its FEL.
I thought the point of using MEL, was to not take more space on the disc. But the MEL track on the Spears and munsill is also in the 2mb/s if I remember correctly. I don't think I ever noticed a mel movie with more than 100kbps bitrate
I don't know which BDInfo that is, DVDFab's? If it is that one then there's not much can be done as it is proprietary..
Also MakeMKV 1.15.3 has a bug with the Spears & Munsil video being detected as FEL:
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 003#p97003
The MEL can be encoded at any bitrate, it is just recommended to be lower because it is a blank image. The EL can be played to confirm this.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:31 pm
by Roberespa
The television model:
OLED55B6V
The result of MakeMKV unfortunately my TV does not play the video .mkv = (
Returning to my question. Is there a command to merge Hevc1 and hevc2 from the "cmd" command prompt and give me a .mkv or .ts video file?
Thank you so much everyone.
Waiting for your reply.
Please help me.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:20 pm
by DaMacFunkin
Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:31 pm
The television model:
OLED55B6V
The result of MakeMKV unfortunately my TV does not play the video .mkv = (
Returning to my question. Is there a command to merge Hevc1 and hevc2 from the "cmd" command prompt and give me a .mkv or .ts video file?
Thank you so much everyone.
Waiting for your reply.
Please help me.
It has been said, Dolby Vision in MKV will not play as Dolby Vision via internal player on LG TV. Use mp4.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:25 pm
by chros
quietvoid wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:45 pm
The EL can be played to confirm this.
What do you mean exactly? Thanks
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by RESET_9999
chros wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:25 pm
quietvoid wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:45 pm
The EL can be played to confirm this.
What do you mean exactly? Thanks
if you play the EL, you can see that it's a blank grey image, therefore a MEL title.
Quietvoid is right. The LOTR are MEL with an unusually high bitrate
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:14 pm
by chros
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 pm
chros wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:25 pm
quietvoid wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:45 pm
The EL can be played to confirm this.
What do you mean exactly? Thanks
if you play the EL, you can see that it's a blank grey image, therefore a MEL title.
Quietvoid is right. The LOTR are MEL with an unusually high bitrate
Cheers, didn't know this. And is the FEL coloured?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:22 pm
by RESET_9999
chros wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:14 pm
Cheers, didn't know this. And is the FEL coloured?
on a FEL movie, you can see the actual movie:
MEL / FEL

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:36 am
by pete19
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 pmThe LOTR are MEL with an unusually high bitrate
it's not unusual, there are quiet a few MEL titles with bitrates around 2MB... and bdinfo states FEL/MEL incorrectly, can't rely on it...
just look at the bitrate itself or the play back the EL itself...
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:12 am
by chros
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:22 pm
on a FEL movie, you can see the actual movie
Thank you, one last question: so what's the bloody point of using 0 padded MEL (~2 Mbps) instead of the smallest one (that I saw 64 Kbps)?
I mean there must be a reason for them...

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
by RESET_9999
chros wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:12 am
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:22 pm
on a FEL movie, you can see the actual movie
Thank you, one last question: so what's the bloody point of using 0 padded MEL (~2 Mbps) instead of the smallest one (that I saw 64 Kbps)?
I mean there must be a reason for them...
I have the same question...
pete19 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:36 am
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 pmThe LOTR are MEL with an unusually high bitrate
it's not unusual, there are quiet a few MEL titles with bitrates around 2MB... and bdinfo states FEL/MEL incorrectly, can't rely on it...
just look at the bitrate itself or the play back the EL itself...
Well i went back looking at 20 of the latest DV movie i added to my library and could find one (except LOTR). Must not be that usual.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:54 pm
by pete19
RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
Well i went back looking at 20 of the latest DV movie i added to my library and could find one (except LOTR). Must not be that usual.
from recent memory (~ 2MB MEL layer):
all 3x LOTR
all 3x Hobbit
Lawrence of Arabia
bluray forum has a long list, there are some
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:50 pm
by Maikel777
Roberespa wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:55 pm
What you say about my TV:
LG OLED55B6V
That Dolby Vision does not play without being in .mp4 "is false".
This file taken from a test website shows that my TV is capable of opening Dolby Vision, at least in .ts format
I attach the link:
https://uptobox.com/q0tk0wifzm5f
Returning to my question. Is there a command to merge Hevc1 and hevc2 from the "cmd" command prompt and give me a .mkv or .ts video file?
Thank you so much everyone.
Waiting for your reply.
I am very interested to know how this person created this .ts
Someone could explain.
I would be eternally grateful.
Thanks a lot.