Re: Makemkv is useless
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:18 pm
It's helpful but ultimately unnecessary to have FindVUK. You can download the keydb directly from the website. FindVUK just makes it easier to keep it up to date.
Ah - found the URL in the ini file. Thx for the heads up for us Mac usersSamuriHL wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:18 pm It's helpful but ultimately unnecessary to have FindVUK. You can download the keydb directly from the website. FindVUK just makes it easier to keep it up to date.
So this kinda begs the question of why MakeMKV doesn't just download & use that key file directly instead of rolling its own?SamuriHL wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:18 pm It's helpful but ultimately unnecessary to have FindVUK. You can download the keydb directly from the website. FindVUK just makes it easier to keep it up to date.
Partly because KEYDB.cfg is a "legacy" format that contains less information than either MakeMKV's database or even FinkVUK's XML files.rkhollister wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:38 pmSo this kinda begs the question of why MakeMKV doesn't just download & use that key file directly instead of rolling its own?
Not anymore.MrPenguin wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:50 pmPartly because KEYDB.cfg is a "legacy" format that contains less information than either MakeMKV's database or even FinkVUK's XML files.rkhollister wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:38 pmSo this kinda begs the question of why MakeMKV doesn't just download & use that key file directly instead of rolling its own?
Err, really? KEYDB.cfg doesn't contain any field for (say) whether the disc uses bus-encryption, whereas FindVUK's XML file does. Everything that comes after ";" in KEYDB.cfg is just a free-format comment.
And some non-UHD discs also contain bus encryption. The point is that KEYDB.cfg was created before bus encryption (and UHD!) even existed and so obviously its format doesn't support it.
That’s my issue if I don’t use a vpn I can’t get the keys it just says failed to download, iSomeguy1234 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:29 amI agree. The software is now where you A) have to be using a VPN in the United States to even download the new keys when the dump files are decrypted and B) you have to wait up to three weeks for a new 4K UHD Blu-ray to be able to be ripped. However, I can only imagine that what Mike does can't be easy. Or, I'm starting to worry about Mike and the servers that he uses for things. Anyone else starting to actually get worried that UHD discs that are post-January 30th or so release will no longer rip? I mean this is a possible reality.Radiocomms237 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:41 am Sounds like he is talking about sending dumps for new UltraHD discs and having to wait for the keys to be added.
I agree the system is flawed, but it's the only option we have for ripping UHDs at the moment, so it is what it is.
There are options. Have you tried?Peterduke wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:46 pmThat’s my issue if I don’t use a vpn I can’t get the keys it just says failed to download, iSomeguy1234 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:29 amI agree. The software is now where you A) have to be using a VPN in the United States to even download the new keys when the dump files are decrypted and B) you have to wait up to three weeks for a new 4K UHD Blu-ray to be able to be ripped. However, I can only imagine that what Mike does can't be easy. Or, I'm starting to worry about Mike and the servers that he uses for things. Anyone else starting to actually get worried that UHD discs that are post-January 30th or so release will no longer rip? I mean this is a possible reality.Radiocomms237 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:41 am Sounds like he is talking about sending dumps for new UltraHD discs and having to wait for the keys to be added.
I agree the system is flawed, but it's the only option we have for ripping UHDs at the moment, so it is what it is.
Try downloading them from another database website and extracting them but Makemkv won’t read them. I used to use anydvd hd until they closed down and I had no issues downloading the keys from anydvd hd but now they are gone and some fake Chinese websites took over their domain.
I want to love Makemkv but every time it needs to download the database I am cooked unless I pay for a vpn
I tried troubleshooting, disabling firewall, AV, adding exceptions, reinstalling Makemkv I think I’m running out of optionsd00zah wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:49 pmThere are options. Have you tried?Peterduke wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:46 pmThat’s my issue if I don’t use a vpn I can’t get the keys it just says failed to download, iSomeguy1234 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:29 am
I agree. The software is now where you A) have to be using a VPN in the United States to even download the new keys when the dump files are decrypted and B) you have to wait up to three weeks for a new 4K UHD Blu-ray to be able to be ripped. However, I can only imagine that what Mike does can't be easy. Or, I'm starting to worry about Mike and the servers that he uses for things. Anyone else starting to actually get worried that UHD discs that are post-January 30th or so release will no longer rip? I mean this is a possible reality.
Try downloading them from another database website and extracting them but Makemkv won’t read them. I used to use anydvd hd until they closed down and I had no issues downloading the keys from anydvd hd but now they are gone and some fake Chinese websites took over their domain.
I want to love Makemkv but every time it needs to download the database I am cooked unless I pay for a vpn
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