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shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:52 pm

besson wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:07 pm Sorry the steps were not very clear that I was following, so what I was trying wasn't working.

So setup is:
Sony soundbar with rear speakers with vertical engine to simulate the atmos effect connected via e-arc to my vizio tv with e-arc. Using a apple tv 4k, but willing to get anything that displays that it is playing atmos.

Like I said steps weren't super clear, but I got stopped dead in my tracks at the FFMPEG part with ffmpeg -i bluray:\path\to\bluray_disc -map 0:0 -c copy \path\to\BL.hevc -map 0:1 -c copy \path\to\EL.hevc

My command was directly to my drive, which said it was encrypted. I then pointed it to the decrypted blu ray folder, no luck.

If someone can help me step by step here and get the proper end file with my atmos track that will actually play and show atmos I'm willing to pay. I have been dumping money into this and I just want the atmos track and my 4kuhd track.

Not sure if any of this helps, but i am building a full on htpc as well, but can get a shield in the meantime if necessary. Apologies if im sounding like a bumbling idiot I have been having a rough time with this process.

Thank You

There's a lot going on here, but the main problem here is that you don't have a device capable of playing back lossless truehd atmos. e-ARC is capable of passing a truehd atmos signal, but I doubt the vizio is capable of decoding it in the first place. The Apple TV is also not capable; the best it will do is convert it to LPCM using infuse. I'm not sure about the capabilities of a htpc, but the Shield will solve this issue. Once you get this issue solved and if you don't care about dolby vision, then just go from disk to mkv with the latest version of makemkv and call it a day.

shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:36 pm

box4m wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:09 pm

planet_hoarder wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:32 pm

it depends, if EL really makes picture 12bit, than it's useless everywhere, since there are no consumer 12bit panels.
Then all profiles are the same, since they show BL+RPU

there is no benefit of using yusecope's tool, if you are creating DV file with mp4muxer.

how else do i merge BL+EL? if i use mp4muxer and have BL + EL as inputs, it creates a duallayer no?

No methods exist to merge the layers themselves. You can merge the tracks that carry them (dual track -> single track), but not the layers.

besson wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:37 pm Ok, backing up a bit I want to know how to create the file that would work if i had a setup that could play this. From there I will buy whatever...price not an issue.

shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:45 pm

besson wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:37 pm Ok, backing up a bit I want to know how to create the file that would work if i had a setup that could play this. From there I will buy whatever...price not an issue.

If price is not an issue, I'd ditch that whole soundbar set up and a get real receiver + speakers . Going through all this trouble to get fake atmos playing on a soundbar is just not worth the trouble imo. Not to mention any potential audio passthrough issues with the TV or video passthrough issues with the soundbar that you might run into. As far as creating the files go, just scroll a couple posts up on this page and there're some general steps that I outlined.

besson wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:01 am

shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:45 pm

besson wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:37 pm Ok, backing up a bit I want to know how to create the file that would work if i had a setup that could play this. From there I will buy whatever...price not an issue.

If price is not an issue, I'd ditch that whole soundbar set up and a get real receiver + speakers . Going through all this trouble to get fake atmos playing on a soundbar is just not worth the trouble imo. Not to mention any potential audio passthrough issues with the TV or video passthrough issues with the soundbar that you might run into. As far as creating the files go, just scroll a couple posts up on this page and there're some general steps that I outlined.

Well that is the crux of my issue, I will definitely read more back, but how involved of a process is this? I have about 40 UHD movies so far in my collection, and I understand it'll be lengthy, I just wish there was a magic program like Makemkv to make these files.

shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:10 pm Needing to send a LLDV signal won't affect the kind of file you have to create. If you don't want to wait for the new DV-compatible mkv containers, the easiest way right now is to go from disk -> mkv with makemkv 1.15.1. If atmos audio is present, extract it with eac3to to thd+ac3 format. Then add mkv and extracted track into either latest nightly build of tsmuxer or the 04.06 fix version that most have been using around here and mux.

Liersi wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:46 pm

shawnc22 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:10 pm Needing to send a LLDV signal won't affect the kind of file you have to create. If you don't want to wait for the new DV-compatible mkv containers, the easiest way right now is to go from disk -> mkv with makemkv 1.15.1. If atmos audio is present, extract it with eac3to to thd+ac3 format. Then add mkv and extracted track into either latest nightly build of tsmuxer or the 04.06 fix version that most have been using around here and mux.

I'm just getting to try this today, and looking at tsmuxer the question for me is the output container. Tsmuxer obviously does ts or m2ts, but everyone's talking about mp4. Does m2ts work?

shawnc22 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:36 pm Yes it’s the only container at the moment that can do dv + atmos. MP4 does not support atmos audio

Liersi wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:39 pm

shawnc22 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:36 pm Yes it’s the only container at the moment that can do dv + atmos. MP4 does not support atmos audio

Figured as much and started testing. I'm using Plex on Shield as that's supposed to work. Latest Tsmuxer nightly on Win10 (w64-nightly-2020-06-27--02-14-32). Image stays black on playback. DV confirmed working with streaming on the same setup. Mediainfo shows DV in the resulting file, I'll attach the rundown:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 47.5 GiB
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 64.7 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Dolby Vision : 1.0, dvhe.06.06, BL+EL+RPU
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate : 61.4 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.309
Stream size : 45.2 GiB (95%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 630 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 460 cd/m2

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 7 896 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 482 MiB (1%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects : 11
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Text
ID : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Seems to all be there, just won't play. Does anyone see aynthing that's obviously wrong?

shawnc22 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:02 pm Could be an issue with the nightly. Try the exact same steps but with this version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... gPqCD/view

Liersi wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:55 pm

shawnc22 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:02 pm Could be an issue with the nightly. Try the exact same steps but with this version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... gPqCD/view

That worked. At least initially, now I can't get it to recognize the DV anymore in Plex, but it worked. The inconsistency may be due to the unusual setup with the Vertex2 emulating a compatible EDID. I'll look there first and see if I can fix it. Thanks a lot for the help Shawn.

I hope an mkv-based solution and playback in Kodi are in the near future.

EDIT: playback in DV works reliably on the AT4K. Issue's on the Shield or with Plex. Working on it.

planet_hoarder wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)

Liersi wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:13 pm

planet_hoarder wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)

Just in time for the testing tonight. Thank you very much! The 04.06 fix version appears to work, the Shield TV always picks up DV given the right player (MrMC is reliable). I'm still struggling with my projector not triggering its HDR mode, but that isn't due to the file I believe. But who knows, I'll report back if this works, and how well it does if it does. Have a bunch of re-ripped mkvs from my backups (thank you foresight) ready for remuxing.

Liersi wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:13 pm

planet_hoarder wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)

Just in time for the testing tonight. Thank you very much! The 04.06 fix version appears to work, the Shield TV always picks up DV given the right player (MrMC is reliable). I'm still struggling with my projector not triggering its HDR mode, but that isn't due to the file I believe. But who knows, I'll report back if this works, and how well it does if it does. Have a bunch of re-ripped mkvs from my backups (thank you foresight) ready for remuxing.

shawnc22 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:09 pm I'm guessing you've been following the steps from here?

https://www.avforums.com/threads/dolby- ... s.2254350/

If so, it's probably not the file that's the issue. Nevermind that profile 8 is wrong for these kind of files, it's not going to matter much on the Shield. It's surprising though that you've been having issues with Plex. Have you been turning off PGS subtitles? If you're worried about your remux process, give these sample files a try:

https://mega.nz/file/YSxhkSLK#fkfy54tYV ... xIOBZLyGR4 (MEL)

https://mega.nz/file/MHpBBLjK#4bM5jsNgP ... glhYbzLcQ0 (FEL)