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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 pm
by Trujax
shawnc22 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:54 pm
jesper1994 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:23 pm
Do you mean the internal LG player? Could you summarize the steps you follow? Thanks
The method which I currently use is mp4box and mp4muxer, since it can handle dts sound but it is taking soooo long.
If the internal LG player is your only playback device, stick with mp4muxer. There's no point in messing with tsmuxer since you can't use lossless atmos.
I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:00 pm
by shawnc22
Trujax wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 pm
shawnc22 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:54 pm
jesper1994 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:23 pm
Do you mean the internal LG player? Could you summarize the steps you follow? Thanks
The method which I currently use is mp4box and mp4muxer, since it can handle dts sound but it is taking soooo long.
If the internal LG player is your only playback device, stick with mp4muxer. There's no point in messing with tsmuxer since you can't use lossless atmos.
I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.
Have you tried any titles that're listed as FEL here? And does that play without stutter on your LG internal player as well?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
by kazuma
thetoad wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 6:52 pm
I use my m9702 daily, with that said, it is far from perfect. If KODI or Plex could ever play dolby vision bluray rips to my TV we;;, life will be much better. with that said, we are far from that day.
never gonna happen..
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:27 am
by Grencola
kazuma wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
thetoad wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 6:52 pm
I use my m9702 daily, with that said, it is far from perfect. If KODI or Plex could ever play dolby vision bluray rips to my TV we;;, life will be much better. with that said, we are far from that day.
never gonna happen..
It's already happened
the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:34 am
by kazuma
Grencola wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:27 am
kazuma wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
thetoad wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 6:52 pm
I use my m9702 daily, with that said, it is far from perfect. If KODI or Plex could ever play dolby vision bluray rips to my TV we;;, life will be much better. with that said, we are far from that day.
never gonna happen..
It's already happened
the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..
nice!, i've also a kodi device, so thats good to hear. but i think the M9702 will be the only player that plays 4K iso's with menu's. also this was my first reason to get this device.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:10 am
by thetoad
if kodi can play a profile 7 dolby vision, there's no reason it wont be able to play with menus, at least if it on a device that can run java. In this case, as an android device, it isn't a likely target (though I've been off and on investigating how to run a jvm on android for kodi to use). With that said, menus for UHDs are mostly pointless, as the vast majority of UHDs are movie only punting all the extras to the regular bluray disk (there are exceptions, but they prove the rule)
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:26 am
by kazuma
depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.
the utility of the M9702 is big for me.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:53 am
by Trujax
shawnc22 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:00 pm
Trujax wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 pm
shawnc22 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:54 pm
If the internal LG player is your only playback device, stick with mp4muxer. There's no point in messing with tsmuxer since you can't use lossless atmos.
I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.
Have you tried any titles that're listed as FEL here? And does that play without stutter on your LG internal player as well?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448
Tryed with Saving Private Ryan and Midway and runs ok.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:26 pm
by thetoad
kazuma wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:26 am
depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.
the utility of the M9702 is big for me.
yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)
I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:42 pm
by kazuma
thetoad wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:26 pm
kazuma wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:26 am
depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.
the utility of the M9702 is big for me.
yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)
I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,
my advantage is that i'm gonna use that thing only for my extern usb HDD. i hate stream/nas things. so for my situation is this perfect. i've have all my content on my usb hdd's..
which version have you? V3? are you satisfied with it? outside nas/streaming..
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:35 pm
by whatsmyname
Grencola wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:27 am
kazuma wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
thetoad wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 6:52 pm
I use my m9702 daily, with that said, it is far from perfect. If KODI or Plex could ever play dolby vision bluray rips to my TV we;;, life will be much better. with that said, we are far from that day.
never gonna happen..
It's already happened
the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..
I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:13 pm
by shawnc22
Trujax wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:53 am
shawnc22 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:00 pm
Trujax wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 pm
I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.
Have you tried any titles that're listed as FEL here? And does that play without stutter on your LG internal player as well?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448
Tryed with Saving Private Ryan and Midway and runs ok.
Ah could be just a coincidence that some of the FEL titles I have stutter on the internal player. 1917, Anna, Mission Impossible Fallout, and Fate of the Furious, just to mention a few, all stutter for me. A lot of others do seem to play without issue, though, so still seems a bit hit or miss to me.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:47 pm
by thetoad
kazuma wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:42 pm
thetoad wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:26 pm
kazuma wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:26 am
depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.
the utility of the M9702 is big for me.
yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)
I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,
my advantage is that i'm gonna use that thing only for my extern usb HDD. i hate stream/nas things. so for my situation is this perfect. i've have all my content on my usb hdd's..
which version have you? V3? are you satisfied with it? outside nas/streaming..
not sure which one I have, have had it for a year. At the end of the day, the only imporvement over the dune smart I upgraded to it frm is that it can do 4k and dolby vision. As the majority of 4K content that isn't dolby vision I can easily turn into MKVs that's not such a big win as Kodi on my TV can play them perfectly. So the only real win is dolby vision. Which is a real thing. But it goes to why I strongly discourage most people from getting it unless dolby vision content is very important to them. Everything else the box can do can be done cheaper and better by other devices.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:40 pm
by box4m
whatsmyname wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:35 pm
Grencola wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 3:27 am
kazuma wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:21 pm
never gonna happen..
It's already happened
the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..
I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.
Are you saying hes playing a dv single layer video in kodi 18.6?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 1:23 am
by Grencola
whatsmyname wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:35 pm
I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.
It's an mp4, so it could be either profile. it's almost surely 7 though given this info by Nancy from the Ugoos staff:
Dual layer currently is no problem. for single layer, Amlogic will update new SDK for s922x-j soon. Shortly after we receive the SDK we will push a new update.