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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:48 pm
by Angryunibrow
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:39 am
Angryunibrow wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am
tr000 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:19 am
Yeah, just throw it in TSMuxer like Grencola said.
I agree, even the atrocious Roku Media Player plays .ts files. Though, It doesn't change much for me since it doesn't do DTS or True-HD, just E-AC3.
I use a shield, but the Plex app on LG TV's will not play a .ts DV file. So mkv would help others
Plays M2TS though.
Not on my C8, .ts or m2ts DV only trigger HDR
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:00 am
by jcdr428
FYI, the request for support of Dolby Vision in MKVToolNix has been accepted by Moritz Bunkus:
https://gitlab.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/-/issues/2784
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:28 am
by DaMacFunkin
Angryunibrow wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:48 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:39 am
Angryunibrow wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am
I use a shield, but the Plex app on LG TV's will not play a .ts DV file. So mkv would help others
Plays M2TS though.
Not on my C8, .ts or m2ts DV only trigger HDR
Hi, I serve to the internal Plex app on my C7 & C9 from a shield and M2TS play fine in DV, do you use Plex or LG player, if LG player I will try it, don’t want to digging about at the back of them to plug in usb cables unless I have to.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:52 am
by DaMacFunkin
tr000 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:44 pm
kazuma wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:30 pm
whats the reason to go for each profile? what is the best to take with mp4muxer? i'm using now profile 7 on my LG C9.
Whatever works on your device.
But seriously—just keep it simple. You'll drive yourself crazy looking for the best profile, audio codec, stream container, etc. etc. The only thing that separates profiles in terms of quality is use of BL, EL, and RPU, and how it affects FEL and MEL (Google), but even that is highly debatable. Theoretically one more accurately represented the 12-bit DV mastering color space but I still doubt there is a meaningful difference on current hardware.
I was in this a while ago, I was an advocate for Dolby Vision ripped from UHD disk to mp4 and then played back from new Shield via Plex.
At some point I got pissed off with not being able to successfully mux Atmos into the mp4 files, so I bought the Oppo 203 clone, being a previous Oppo 203 owner I knew the player had a few bugs that never got fixed and a really uninspiring interface, bought the clone anyway.
Even now we are muxing Atmos into TS/M2TS files I can’t go back to the Shield, there is something off putting about its colour reproduction of any Dolby Vision file ripped from UHD disk, when you see it next to the ChinOppo you can clearly see it is doing some sort of nearest neighbour with the UHD BD colour profile.
I’m not sure if there is anything Nvidia can do about it TBH.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:19 am
by daddy
tr000 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:09 am
So after 10+ hours of agonizing labor, Jumanji did not work through any method in mkv form or m2ts form. I will begrudgingly watch it in HDR10.
DV never worked in mkv files.
I did Jumanji last year and it works in .mp4 profile 7 (play by dlna on LG C7)
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:42 am
by deadchip12
So I'm watching dolby vision remuxes on my c9 oled tv (stored on an external hdd connected via usb, played using the tv internal player) without audio, because I use headphone on my pc so everytime I have to play the same film on the pc to get the audio through headphone. Is there an easy way to synchonize between the video on the tv and the audio coming from the pc?
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:01 am
by Billycar11
deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:42 am
So I'm watching dolby vision remuxes on my c9 oled tv (stored on an external hdd connected via usb, played using the tv internal player) without audio, because I use headphone on my pc so everytime I have to play the same film on the pc to get the audio through headphone. Is there an easy way to synchonize between the video on the tv and the audio coming from the pc?
uhhmm plug your headphones into tv
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:04 am
by deadchip12
Billycar11 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:01 am
deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:42 am
So I'm watching dolby vision remuxes on my c9 oled tv (stored on an external hdd connected via usb, played using the tv internal player) without audio, because I use headphone on my pc so everytime I have to play the same film on the pc to get the audio through headphone. Is there an easy way to synchonize between the video on the tv and the audio coming from the pc?
uhhmm plug your headphones into tv
I use dolby atmos for headphone on pc to get virtual surround sound though.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:12 am
by Billycar11
deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:04 am
I use dolby atmos for headphone on pc to get virtual surround sound though.
that is an inferior experience to having the headphones plugged into the tv
its just wrong in so many ways
sound that just works is better, atmos is best on a real surround setup not the virtualized widows thing the other tracks on the movies are professionally down mixed not some on the fly windows stuff it will sound better and be much easier to use and all be insync
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:27 am
by tr000
daddy wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:19 am
tr000 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:09 am
So after 10+ hours of agonizing labor, Jumanji did not work through any method in mkv form or m2ts form. I will begrudgingly watch it in HDR10.
DV never worked in mkv files.
I did Jumanji last year and it works in .mp4 profile 7 (play by dlna on LG C7)
I mean mkv to mp4, of course. It may just be my source files, and the fact that my TV does 4 and 5 only.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:29 am
by tr000
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:52 am
tr000 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:44 pm
kazuma wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:30 pm
whats the reason to go for each profile? what is the best to take with mp4muxer? i'm using now profile 7 on my LG C9.
Whatever works on your device.
But seriously—just keep it simple. You'll drive yourself crazy looking for the best profile, audio codec, stream container, etc. etc. The only thing that separates profiles in terms of quality is use of BL, EL, and RPU, and how it affects FEL and MEL (Google), but even that is highly debatable. Theoretically one more accurately represented the 12-bit DV mastering color space but I still doubt there is a meaningful difference on current hardware.
I was in this a while ago, I was an advocate for Dolby Vision ripped from UHD disk to mp4 and then played back from new Shield via Plex.
At some point I got pissed off with not being able to successfully mux Atmos into the mp4 files, so I bought the Oppo 203 clone, being a previous Oppo 203 owner I knew the player had a few bugs that never got fixed and a really uninspiring interface, bought the clone anyway.
Even now we are muxing Atmos into TS/M2TS files I can’t go back to the Shield, there is something off putting about its colour reproduction of any Dolby Vision file ripped from UHD disk, when you see it next to the ChinOppo you can clearly see it is doing some sort of nearest neighbour with the UHD BD colour profile.
I’m not sure if there is anything Nvidia can do about it TBH.
I cannot comment about the Shield but I know my DV .mp4s on my TCL home theatre TV look identical to the respective Blu-ray. Perhaps it's a difference in the SoC or pipeline.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:06 pm
by deadchip12
Billycar11 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:12 am
deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:04 am
I use dolby atmos for headphone on pc to get virtual surround sound though.
that is an inferior experience to having the headphones plugged into the tv
its just wrong in so many ways
sound that just works is better, atmos is best on a real surround setup not the virtualized widows thing the other tracks on the movies are professionally down mixed not some on the fly windows stuff it will sound better and be much easier to use and all be insync
Plugging the headphone into the tv will only give stereo sound. If the source supports surround sound, having virtual surround sound, while not ideal and not as good as real dolby atmos seteup, is way better than stereo. There maybe some very slight degrade in quality but the imaging/soundstage is much better and the experience is a lot more immersive.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:25 pm
by Angryunibrow
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:28 am
Angryunibrow wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:48 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:39 am
Plays M2TS though.
Not on my C8, .ts or m2ts DV only trigger HDR
Hi, I serve to the internal Plex app on my C7 & C9 from a shield and M2TS play fine in DV, do you use Plex or LG player, if LG player I will try it, don’t want to digging about at the back of them to plug in usb cables unless I have to.
The Plex app on the LG C8 would only play HDR when I fed it a .TS or .M2TS DV file, this was a profile 4/6 and I think I even tried profile 7 file.
Shield works fine, and DV .MP4s work fine on the LG Plex app as well
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:31 pm
by Grencola
deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:42 am
So I'm watching dolby vision remuxes on my c9 oled tv (stored on an external hdd connected via usb, played using the tv internal player) without audio, because I use headphone on my pc so everytime I have to play the same film on the pc to get the audio through headphone. Is there an easy way to synchonize between the video on the tv and the audio coming from the pc?
perhaps this approach can help you, or at least the idea may be customized to your setup:
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... eep#p82862
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:38 pm
by shawnc22
Angryunibrow wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:25 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:28 am
Angryunibrow wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:48 pm
Not on my C8, .ts or m2ts DV only trigger HDR
Hi, I serve to the internal Plex app on my C7 & C9 from a shield and M2TS play fine in DV, do you use Plex or LG player, if LG player I will try it, don’t want to digging about at the back of them to plug in usb cables unless I have to.
The Plex app on the LG C8 would only play HDR when I fed it a .TS or .M2TS DV file, this was a profile 4/6 and I think I even tried profile 7 file.
Shield works fine, and DV .MP4s work fine on the LG Plex app as well
If these TS files contain the atmos track, i wonder if it’s because the TV plex app is trying to transcode it, losing DV in the process. Have you tried selecting that unknown ac3 5.1 track while playing or just using the internal player via dlna (you’ll get the audio not supported message instead)?