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Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:37 am
by MysticHorizon7
Coopervid wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:06 pm
MysticHorizon7 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:19 pm
Thanks. I've read it, but I'm not able to find a solution for layer changing problem. Maybe I've missed something...
Well, then let me explain it in a few words. Most issues occur at the layer break. With spare areas the drive reads back an unsuccessful written sector and writes it instead in the spare area. So the bad sector at the layer break is replaced by that and the layer break doesn't cause problems anymore. However, disc quality of most disc types is very bad today. And the problem increases if you have a lousy writer like LG and ASUS drives. So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.
Thank you very much for your answer Coopervid! You wrote "So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.", may I ask you to explain me better how could I reach this goal? What do you mean for "this method"? Thanks in advance.
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:24 am
by MartyMcNuts
MysticHorizon7 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:37 am
Coopervid wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:06 pm
MysticHorizon7 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:19 pm
Thanks. I've read it, but I'm not able to find a solution for layer changing problem. Maybe I've missed something...
Well, then let me explain it in a few words. Most issues occur at the layer break. With spare areas the drive reads back an unsuccessful written sector and writes it instead in the spare area. So the bad sector at the layer break is replaced by that and the layer break doesn't cause problems anymore. However, disc quality of most disc types is very bad today. And the problem increases if you have a lousy writer like LG and ASUS drives. So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.
Thank you very much for your answer Coopervid! You wrote "So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.", may I ask you to explain me better how could I reach this goal? What do you mean for "this method"? Thanks in advance.
Kitahoshi posted a guide from the old Redfox forum about half way down the page using the link coopervid provided. This is the method he is talking about.
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:22 pm
by MysticHorizon7
MartyMcNuts wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:24 am
MysticHorizon7 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:37 am
Coopervid wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:06 pm
Well, then let me explain it in a few words. Most issues occur at the layer break. With spare areas the drive reads back an unsuccessful written sector and writes it instead in the spare area. So the bad sector at the layer break is replaced by that and the layer break doesn't cause problems anymore. However, disc quality of most disc types is very bad today. And the problem increases if you have a lousy writer like LG and ASUS drives. So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.
Thank you very much for your answer Coopervid! You wrote "So just try this method and most likely your burns will not fail anymore at the layer break.", may I ask you to explain me better how could I reach this goal? What do you mean for "this method"? Thanks in advance.
Kitahoshi posted a guide from the old Redfox forum about half way down the page using the link coopervid provided. This is the method he is talking about.
Perfect! Thanks a lot. Unfortunately it seems that the mentioned method is relative to installing fw 3.11, but that fw doesn't resolve changing layer issue. I'm looking for "DE+M Extended" as last chance. Thanks a lot anyway!
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:18 pm
by Coopervid
This method has nothing to do with the firmware and nothing regarding firmware is mentioned anywere. The ASUS and LG drives are lousy and if you have lousy discs the chances are high that you have issues at the layer break. The spare area method helps in both cases but if the problems are too high you might run out of spare area space. Now go ahead and try it!
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:56 pm
by Coopervid
Thinking about the last posts I think that MysticHorizon7 is a troll. He didn't read and understand the post I linked. And brought up firmware issues that were never mentioned. I will not respond anymore to him.
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:47 pm
by MysticHorizon7
Coopervid wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:18 pm
This method has nothing to do with the firmware and nothing regarding firmware is mentioned anywere. The ASUS and LG drives are lousy and if you have lousy discs the chances are high that you have issues at the layer break. The spare area method helps in both cases but if the problems are too high you might run out of spare area space. Now go ahead and try it!
Thanks, I'll try.
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:50 pm
by MysticHorizon7
Coopervid wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:56 pm
Thinking about the last posts I think that MysticHorizon7 is a troll. He didn't read and understand the post I linked. And brought up firmware issues that were never mentioned. I will not respond anymore to him.
Do whatever you want of course. I've read your post. Yes, maybe I've not understood, but you are not very kind. I thought a forum was made to help others to understand not to offend them, but it seems that it's not your case...
Re: ASUS_BW-16D1HT question
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:00 pm
by Coopervid
Try it. Report back. Otherwise don't post anymore any useless things. Troll.