MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#16 Post by mike admin » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:26 am

This will be "fixed" very soon by additional setting that would select "RAW" LPCM without channel arrangement information.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#17 Post by vddobrev » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:24 pm

mike admin wrote:This will be "fixed" very soon by additional setting that would select "RAW" LPCM without channel arrangement information.
I am about to buy MakeMKV, so my question is when? I have over 30 Blu-rays with only PCM uncompressed, and this is very important, and will influence my decision to buy.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#18 Post by vddobrev » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:26 pm

mike admin wrote:Ok, let me clarify. The issue is clearly apparent and will be corrected. As a quick fix you can always use hex editor to patch 2 bytes in MKV header so every program would recognize this audio format without re-encoding. The proper fix is planned in (near) future.
Can you please advide step by step how to correct this?

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#19 Post by sundog_ak » Sat May 07, 2011 2:00 am

See this link where it is discussed on which bytes to modify:

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic ... 1062#p1062

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#20 Post by xwmkf » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 pm

Any update on this? Just ran into it myself, using the latest makemkv (1.6.14).

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#21 Post by paulster » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:57 pm

xwmkf wrote:Any update on this? Just ran into it myself, using the latest makemkv (1.6.14).
Yes, me too.

This is a showstopper for me since nearly 50% of my BluRays have LPCM tracks and I don't want to have to manually hack the files afterwards.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#22 Post by Tiedemate » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:53 pm

I just ran into this problem. Any update on this?

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#23 Post by Romansh » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:23 pm

There's the FLAC profile, and you can also tell MakeMKV to use raw PCM (instead of WAVEX in MKV) via a custom conversion profile. See the "Advanced MakeMKV Usage" subforum for details.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#24 Post by kevmitch » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:07 am

The problem here is that the matroska spec (http://matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/index.html) does not specify a tolerable format for multichannel pcm. The "best of bad options" is "A_MS/ACM". Although this codec has the dubious association with Microsoft, and is "uncommon", it is the only one that accurately describes the data.

Thinking this was just an issue for metadata geeks, I tried changing "A_MS/ACM" to "A_PCM/INT/LIT" with mkvtoolnix as described at http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407589/makem ... lpcm-audio. Although this enables VLC to actually play back the problematic track, it has no idea how to handle the channels. In the stereo mixdown, it sounds like it's putting the rear in right and front in left.

In summary, this is part of the spec, so VLC and other tools should really recognize it, expecially since there isn't a better option. According to VLC developer, TypX this is in the works (https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.ph ... 41#p365532

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#25 Post by mike admin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:53 am

VLC already can perfectly recognize and play LPCM in WAVEX container, when reading from a WAV file. But for some reason this code is not enabled when reading the same data from MKV file. You can do a simple test - demux the track from MKV to WAV file with mkvtoolnix or eac3to, and VLC would play it perfectly.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#26 Post by angelgraves13 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:09 am

I ended up using mkvextract to extract the LPCM audio and eac3to to convert to individual WAVs and then convert to DTS-HD Master Audio using the encoding suite by Sony that I use for video editing.

Converted all my Criterion titles to DTS-HD MA with core bitrates that are as close as possible to the WAV file, usually 768 kbps for Mono, less if the WAV is at 400 kbps. Now all my files play flawlessly in my media player.

You can always do LPCM to FLAC with eac3to.

Took forever to convert all my LOST episodes that used LPCM instead of DTS-HD MA.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#27 Post by betrayer » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:01 pm

You can do this fix with mkvmerge gui , takes on minute to fix. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407589/makem ... lpcm-audio

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#28 Post by madfloyd » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:30 am

Why not just use the FLAC profile? You save space that way.

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#29 Post by cipher » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:24 am

Hi Guys,

I've spent a couple of hours today trying to track down and fix an issue where ripped Blu-rays with a 5.1 LPCM track were not playing any audio on my Oppo BDP-103D player. After some discussion with Oppo support, posting at AVSForum and online research I came across this thread.

I'm using the latest version of the application so it looks like this issue is present today.
mike admin wrote:This will be "fixed" very soon by additional setting that would select "RAW" LPCM without channel arrangement information.
Mike, this was posted back in 2011 so I'm just checking to see if this was fixed and I'm experiencing a regression in the code, or if this bug was never addressed. Either way, do you have any info on if this will be corrected in a future build?

Thank you

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Re: MakeMKV picks wrong LPCM codec-id

#30 Post by bluesnow » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:35 pm

Ditto from me too. I've run into this a couple of times now and would also like to see a "fix".

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