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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:37 pm
by RESET_9999
No, as I said, the generated L2 trim is meant to mimic the improved tone mapping of CMv4.0 on CMv2.9 devices.
CMv4.0 L1 + L3 is roughly equivalent to CMv2.9 L1 + L2.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:50 pm
by HotFudge
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:37 pm No, as I said, the generated L2 trim is meant to mimic the improved tone mapping of CMv4.0 on CMv2.9 devices.
CMv4.0 L1 + L3 is roughly equivalent to CMv2.9 L1 + L2.
Ah sorry RESET.

I think I get it now
For cmv4.0
if L8 is empty then it will use L1+L3 generated metadata otherwise it will use L1+L8.

Thanks very much for your continue help.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:55 pm
by RESET_9999
if L8 is active, it will use L1+L3+L8. Check out these metadata video comparisons: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... dMiy2ka0mf

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:38 pm
by HotFudge
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:55 pm if L8 is active, it will use L1+L3+L8. Check out these metadata video comparisons: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... dMiy2ka0mf
RESET you are MVP

Thanks again

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:19 pm
by HotFudge
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:33 am L6 is useless
why is this metadata useless?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:40 pm
by RESET_9999
it's not used in DV

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:48 pm
by HotFudge
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:40 pm it's not used in DV
Interesting. Thanks

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:29 pm
by deadchip12
RESET_9999 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:40 pm it's not used in DV
Hmm then what's the point of making it a setting in cpm build?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:11 am
by RESET_9999
For the same reason my scripts automatically edit it when injecting XML even though it's useless, why not?
Just enable it if it makes you feel better...

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:06 am
by Epedemic
So, google decided to finally update the CCwGTV to Android 14. However, other than it being a totally botched update, it seems FEL support might be permanently gone, "thanks to" an upgrade to kernel 5.15. I can live with that, as I have a X700 as well, however I wonder if anyone can confirm wether MEL is still played correctly? (It looks like it to me, but I cannot verify it as well as the experts here can)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:23 pm
by RESET_9999
It doesnt matter because the GTV FEL playback is out of sync anyway and it does fake tv-led.
The x700 alters the metadata(not true TV-LED) and ignores any positive lift so get the ugoos if you want the best bug-free DV quality.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:58 pm
by Epedemic
RESET_9999 wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:23 pm It doesnt matter because the GTV FEL playback is out of sync anyway and it does fake tv-led.
The x700 alters the metadata(not true TV-LED) and ignores any positive lift so get the ugoos if you want the best bug-free DV quality.
Well, I have an ancient TV (LG E6), so TV-LED is not for me yet.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:08 pm
by RESET_9999
pretty sure all the LG TV supports TV-LED and only a few early SONY models didn't.
Maybe you're confusing it with cmv4.0?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:18 pm
by RESET_9999
Since my next TV (G5) will be able to play most content without tone mapping, I thought it would be useful to list all the 4000-nit movie grades. So, I added two new tabs to my Google Drive Excel sheet:

1- movies brighter than 1000nits: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1557834794
2- movies that are practically SDR in HDR container: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1488998734

The dark grades list will be updated frequently over the next few days, as many movies are graded under 300 nits, and I'm still going through my library. For the bright grades list, I think I found most of them (about 200 titles)

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:09 pm
by powdeau
If I want to check whether a x700 would alter metadata or not, I just just check if L1 plot values are lower than MDL value?
E.g. if all L1 values would be under 1000 nits and MDL is 1000, then it is OK?

So the only problem would be L1 over 1000 nits with MDL 1000 and L1 over 4000 with MDL 4000? And if that happens I just edit the MDL to higher value (e.g. edit Mad Max Fury Road to MDL 10 000)