Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10066 Post by deadchip12 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:27 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:16 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:08 pm
On my end there's no verify sync file... Something must have gone wrong then.
you have to sync the web rpu directly in 2-6... Read the other note in the comments. When i did this tutorial, the script could not re-sync or fix the framecount mismatch in 2-6
I already synced the rpu using 2-6. I checked the final mkv file's dovi L1 plot and it was exactly the same as the original bluray file's dovi L1 plot, so that is a good indicator that the syncing was done successfully. I just didn't see the verify sync file. I may have deleted it accidentally. Will try with another movie.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10067 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:35 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:27 pm
it was exactly the same as the original bluray file's dovi L1 plot, so that is a good indicator that the syncing was done successfully.
No, because in 2-6, you don't touch L1/L2 and scene cuts of the original P7 RPU, you just add L3-L8-L9. This is exactly the same mistake I did in the video.
Also, even if you did plot the ''verify_sync'' rpu, L1 could still look slightly different because sometimes WEB has less or more scene cuts in the beginning which would change the L1 plot graph. What matters is that your ''verify_sync'' rpu scene cuts match the P7 rpu/BL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10068 Post by sofakng » Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:46 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:04 pm
Well, the only group I would 100% trust is 3L and it's only because I know him personally and I know that he always does all the necessary checks.
RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:04 pm
Same for their Black Widow release and others.
Can you check the 3L release of Black Widow? They released DV HYBRID but according to your spreadsheet they are different grades?

Similarly, 3L released the following movies:
Star Wars 3 (your spreadsheet says the metadata is out of sync on the original P5 WEB-DL)
Inside Out (your spreadsheet says it has an MDL mismach)

Is it possible that 3L fixed these issues? I'm not sure they would have corrected Black Widow though if it's different grades?

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#10069 Post by RESET_9999 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:04 pm

Yeah, the earlier remux might not have been checked, we didn't have the tools we have today. I'm surprised he didn't delete them though.
But since we have the tool to plot, check scene cuts, tone map P5, etc.. I know for a fact that he does all those checks.

Star Wars 3 seems to be a studio error. The DV metadata were created from faulty scene cuts so the result is not necessarily wrong/visible, it is just not as good as a DV analysis with proper scene cuts
Black Widow and Inside Out are definitely wrong though.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10070 Post by Rororororo » Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:02 am
Rororororo wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:37 am
WEBMux is the highest quality you can achieve via streaming service, like remux in bdremux.
oops I downloaded the 2nd one instead of the WEBMux. Does it matter since I will only use the file to transfer the cmv4.0 rpu to the bluray version?
both should have the same DoVi 8.1
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10071 Post by deadchip12 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 pm

Rororororo wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:02 am
Rororororo wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:37 am
WEBMux is the highest quality you can achieve via streaming service, like remux in bdremux.
oops I downloaded the 2nd one instead of the WEBMux. Does it matter since I will only use the file to transfer the cmv4.0 rpu to the bluray version?
both should have the same DoVi 8.1
What about those x265 uploads? Do they have the same rpu as the hevc/h265 counterparts?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10072 Post by deadchip12 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:37 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:35 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:27 pm
it was exactly the same as the original bluray file's dovi L1 plot, so that is a good indicator that the syncing was done successfully.
No, because in 2-6, you don't touch L1/L2 and scene cuts of the original P7 RPU, you just add L3-L8-L9. This is exactly the same mistake I did in the video.
Also, even if you did plot the ''verify_sync'' rpu, L1 could still look slightly different because sometimes WEB has less or more scene cuts in the beginning which would change the L1 plot graph. What matters is that your ''verify_sync'' rpu scene cuts match the P7 rpu/BL
Ok i did it again and the verify sync rpu scene cuts matched.

If a movie is not in any of the red/green/yellow list in your spreadsheet, e. g. Creed III, does it mean this transfer process won't work or you haven't tested with that movie yet?

I just tried with another movie (Blue Beetle 2023) and the stream file I download turned out to be cmv2.9, not 4.0 :shock: (Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX)

I then tried Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom 2023 and it was cmv4.0 but I realize some numbers on my L1 plot are different compared to yours:
Mine:
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Yours:
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10073 Post by Rororororo » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:30 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 pm
Rororororo wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:02 am

oops I downloaded the 2nd one instead of the WEBMux. Does it matter since I will only use the file to transfer the cmv4.0 rpu to the bluray version?
both should have the same DoVi 8.1
What about those x265 uploads? Do they have the same rpu as the hevc/h265 counterparts?
yeah, web rips should have the exactly same P8 RPU (CMv4.0) as original WEBMuxes/WEB-DL, UHDrips usually have P8 RPU (CMv2.9) converted from P7 MEL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10074 Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:18 am

Rororororo wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:30 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 pm
Rororororo wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm


both should have the same DoVi 8.1
What about those x265 uploads? Do they have the same rpu as the hevc/h265 counterparts?
yeah, web rips should have the exactly same P8 RPU (CMv4.0) as original WEBMuxes/WEB-DL, UHDrips usually have P8 RPU (CMv2.9) converted from P7 MEL
I'm trying to download The Marvels (2023) stream version to transfer the cmv4.0 rpu to the bluray version and I see two uploads:

1) The.Marvels.2023.2160p.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX[TGx]

2) The.Marvels.2023.ITA.ENG.IMAX.2160p.DSNP.WEB-DL.DV.HDR.H.265-MeM.GP.mkv

The 1st one is 18GB in size and the 2nd one is 10.4GB. The 1st one seems to have higher bitrate, however the 2nd one has "DSNP" in the title, so I guess it's from Disney+ instead of Itunes (in RESET_9999's spreadsheet it says dont use itunes web-dl as its missing L4 - not sure if this still applies with the new dovi tool). Which one should I download?

Btw, i just downloaded a the stream file and it turned out to be cmv2.9, not 4.0 :shock: (Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX)
How do I know before downloading?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10075 Post by Rororororo » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:46 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:18 am
How do I know before downloading?
You can do quick read using 2-2 before downloading the whole thing, just make sure you download in sequential order if bittorrent

Edit:

I just quick checked the Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX and it's P8 CMv4.0

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  "rpu_data_crc32": 2385106521
}
Parsing RPU file...

Summary:
  Frames: 576
  Profile: 8
  DM version: 2 (CM v4.0)
  Scene/shot count: 3
  RPU mastering display: 0.0001/1000 nits
  RPU content light level (L1): MaxCLL: 729.26 nits, MaxFALL: 24.93 nits
  L6 metadata: Mastering display: 0.0001/1000 nits. MaxCLL: 0 nits, MaxFALL: 0 nits
  L2 trims: 100 nits, 600 nits, 1000 nits
  L8 trims: 100 nits
  L5 Left offset: 0
  L5 Right offset: 0
  L5 Top offset: 278
  L5 Bottom offset: 278
  HDR10 BL MDL: min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
  HDR10 BL MDP: Display P3
  Resolution: 3840 x 2160
  FrameRate: 23.976fps
btw @RESET_9999, what RPU is better to transfer from WEB, P5 or P8? Does it even matter if L3L8L9 data is the same on both RPUs? Asking because the P5 RPU bin file is 36 MiB larger than the P8 RPU for Dune: Part Two
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10076 Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:40 am

Rororororo wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:46 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:18 am
How do I know before downloading?
You can do quick read using 2-2 before downloading the whole thing, just make sure you download in sequential order if bittorrent

Edit:

I just quick checked the Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX and it's P8 CMv4.0
Sorry my bad. I just rechecked and the version I downloaded was Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-XEBEC[TGx], not Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX. And thanks for the tip to check before the download is finished.

Any idea on the first question regarding how to check whether the release is from itunes or disney+?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10077 Post by Rororororo » Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:20 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:40 am
Any idea on the first question regarding how to check whether the release is from itunes or disney+?
again, quick 2-2 and check the RPU for "Level4": line, but I believe IMAX version is the one you need
also, DSNP means Disney Plus...

and another question @RESET_9999 - why does it matter whether the RPU has L4 if we only transfer L3L8L9?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10078 Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:44 pm

Rororororo wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:20 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:40 am
Any idea on the first question regarding how to check whether the release is from itunes or disney+?
again, quick 2-2 and check the RPU for "Level4": line, but I believe IMAX version is the one you need.
Just checked the first file (the higher bitrate one) and there's no Level4 line, along with these:
L5 Left offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Right offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Top offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Bottom offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...


I'm downloading the second file to check. It's currently at 17% already but dragging it into dovi scripts still shows nothing.

Btw, do you know why there's WARNING at the beginning of the dovi scripts when I open it and does it matter for this particular cmv4.0-to-2.9 workflow? I already downloaded and installed all the tools per tutorial.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10079 Post by RESET_9999 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:00 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:37 pm
If a movie is not in any of the red/green/yellow list in your spreadsheet, e. g. Creed III, does it mean this transfer process won't work or you haven't tested with that movie yet?
I haven't checked all the movies
I just tried with another movie (Blue Beetle 2023) and the stream file I download turned out to be cmv2.9, not 4.0 :shock: (Blue.Beetle.2023.2160p.MA.WEB-DL.DDP5.1.Atmos.DV.HDR.H.265-FLUX)
My cmv4.0 source for this movie is MAX and not MA(movie anywhere)
How do I know before downloading?
you cant
I then tried Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom 2023 and it was cmv4.0 but I realize some numbers on my L1 plot are different compared to yours:
I edit L6 when I do P8 hybrid. It doesn't really matter, these values are ignored in DV.
Rororororo wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:46 am
btw @RESET_9999, what RPU is better to transfer from WEB, P5 or P8? Does it even matter if L3L8L9 data is the same on both RPUs? Asking because the P5 RPU bin file is 36 MiB larger than the P8 RPU for Dune: Part Two
it doesn't matter
why does it matter whether the RPU has L4 if we only transfer L3L8L9?
Just checked the first file (the higher bitrate one) and there's no Level4 line, along with these:
L5 Left offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Right offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Top offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L5 Bottom offset: L5_is_missing_you_should_edit...
L4 is when I do P8 hybrid, it doesn't matter when you transfer 3-8-9 to a P7 rpu since they already have L4.
All iTunes webdl are missing L4 and L5
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:44 pm
Btw, do you know why there's WARNING at the beginning of the dovi scripts when I open it and does it matter for this particular cmv4.0-to-2.9 workflow? I already downloaded and installed all the tools per tutorial.
It just means your tool pack is missing the Dolby professional tools. It doesn't matter for 2-6 but you can get them for free here:
https://customer.dolby.com/content-crea ... tools-v550
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#10080 Post by spl147 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:21 pm

Does anyone using the Ugoos AM6B+ have a white banding issue in Saving Private Ryan @ 2h35m mark?

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