Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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whiplash1 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:17 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:14 am
Does anyone know if the Bluray Player App on the Xbox Series X can run these Dolby Vision remux?
No DV support for UHD Bluray on the Xbox Series X, DV is only available through streaming apps.
Yeah but it'll be interesting to know if it too can play DV MEL (or FEL converted to MEL) titles like the Firestick 4k. Through the modified exoplayer of course, or Plex.
Not likely. No chance for exoplayer since it's not an Android based OS. It seemingly has the same DV implementation as the One X and Plex so far hasn't shown any signs of adding DV support after such a long time.
mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Was away for a few weeks, could not log in to check the updates. My understanding is there is a good proven method of creating DV MEL files for both MEL and FEL>MEL for devices like Fire TV 4K Stick and Nvidia Shield in MKV through Plex. Can someone summarize how to get it done step by step? I would really appreciate it!
whiplash1
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:25 pm
whiplash1 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:17 am

No DV support for UHD Bluray on the Xbox Series X, DV is only available through streaming apps.
Yeah but it'll be interesting to know if it too can play DV MEL (or FEL converted to MEL) titles like the Firestick 4k. Through the modified exoplayer of course, or Plex.
Not likely. No chance for exoplayer since it's not an Android based OS. It seemingly has the same DV implementation as the One X and Plex so far hasn't shown any signs of adding DV support after such a long time.
I think after the latest update Plex now supports DV?
DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mulucy wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:59 pm
Was away for a few weeks, could not log in to check the updates. My understanding is there is a good proven method of creating DV MEL files for both MEL and FEL>MEL for devices like Fire TV 4K Stick and Nvidia Shield in MKV through Plex. Can someone summarize how to get it done step by step? I would really appreciate it!
You don’t need to do anything than use Makemkv with Plex on Shield 2019.
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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whiplash1 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:58 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:25 pm
whiplash1 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 am


Yeah but it'll be interesting to know if it too can play DV MEL (or FEL converted to MEL) titles like the Firestick 4k. Through the modified exoplayer of course, or Plex.
Not likely. No chance for exoplayer since it's not an Android based OS. It seemingly has the same DV implementation as the One X and Plex so far hasn't shown any signs of adding DV support after such a long time.
I think after the latest update Plex now supports DV?
Yes, the Android release does. Again, the Xbox does not run Android and every OS has their own version of Plex. So far, only the Android release has shown DV support as far as I know.
mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:45 pm
mulucy wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:59 pm
Was away for a few weeks, could not log in to check the updates. My understanding is there is a good proven method of creating DV MEL files for both MEL and FEL>MEL for devices like Fire TV 4K Stick and Nvidia Shield in MKV through Plex. Can someone summarize how to get it done step by step? I would really appreciate it!
You don’t need to do anything than use Makemkv with Plex on Shield 2019.
What about the Fire TV 4K Stick?
koolkunz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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koolkunz wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:49 pm
yusesope wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:43 pm
koolkunz wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:11 pm
Edit: Manually setting audio delay of around 170ms seems to fix the issue but this shouldn't be happening right?
Is there a solution for this? Or has this happened due to something I did wrong?
It's not your fault.
FFmpeg can rarely fail to perfectly sync my video with the audio in the chosen file.

I don't know how you solved it (there are so many ways), the easiest for me is to use the -itsoffset switch inside the second command.
-itsoffset must be placed before the second input (i.e. the file from which FFmpeg will take the audio ... look at the red part in the example)
src\Gpac\gpac.exe -i pipe://video:ext=hevc:audelim=true -o stdout:ext=ts:pes_pack=none | src\FFmpeg\ffmpeg_win_x64.exe -hide_banner -y -i - -itsoffset 170ms -i \path\to\your\original\file.m2ts -map 0:0 -map 1:2 -c copy -bsf:v hevc_metadata=aud=insert -metadata title="Movie Title_________________________________________________________________________" \path\to\your\output\file.mkv
Use a positive value (in this specific case, 170ms) if the audio starts before the video (aka “you have to slow down the audio”).
Use a negative value (in this specific case, -170ms) if the video starts before the audio (aka “you have to slow down the video”).
Faced the same issue with 2 another movies: 13 Hours (this movie is divided into 3 m2ts files so had to use new GAMMA build with -bluray command support) and Angel Has Fallen (single m2ts file)

The audio delay issue happened here also and it is exactly the same it was with First Man. The video is delayed by 167ms (exact same value as before which equals to 7 video frames for 23.976fps video) which leads to the audio being in front of the video and setting manual delay using ffmpeg/mkvtoolnix adds an extra step.

The fact that the exact same issue has happened with 3 different blurays I feel it could possibly be a bug and not just something due to ffmpeg?

One thing to note is that all 3 blurays have truehd audio tracks (these are the only 3 with truehd audio that I have tried yet and all of them have given the same problem) as primary and I used fel to mel switch everytime . These are the only common denominators I can see.
using the v0.0.4_BETA_TEST_17102020 method for movies with truehd audio seems to work for now. It is a much longer process than v0.0.4_GAMMA_07112020 but no audio delay issues with truehd audio.
PlatypusW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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koolkunz wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pm
using the v0.0.4_BETA_TEST_17102020 method for movies with truehd audio seems to work for now. It is a much longer process than v0.0.4_GAMMA_07112020 but no audio delay issues with truehd audio.
Yeah, but if you need a mkv at the end, I found with quite a few titles that the Dolby vision layers / dual video tracks end up out of sync with beta - which is a lot worse than the audio :P
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mulucy wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 pm
What about the Fire TV 4K Stick?
You have to convert to MEL or 8.1, and remove HDR10+ if present, with yusesope's tool.
truthy
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I successfully converted one GOT episode to MEL, HDR10+ was not present --> ISO --> back to mkv --> mkvmerge all audio tracks and subtitles pgs and srt.
I compared DoVi MEL with the Fire TV Stick 4k and plex from my qnap nas with the original FEL muxed in mp4 (2 video streams), which plays directly from usb on my LG C8LLA. Both look so much better than normal HDR, wich I can trigger via plex when I select the dts audio track, triggers transcode and switches back to HDR. With the AC3 track selected it switches back to DoVi. FEL looks slightly better of course, but it's not that noticable. One thing I noticed, is that I have to deselect the subtitles pgs/srt as it triggers transcode in plex. But when I select them during playback, directplay stays on, no trandscoding and they are displayed correctly both pgs and srt. (might be a plex bug) Especially with GOT that's quite important as there are quite a lot of foreign/invented language parts.

Repeating this procedure for 73 episodes to get DoVi to MEL so that my Fire TV Stick 4K can play it would take forever. I'll get a Nivdia Shield 2019, not the pro version, for comparison, FEL and Atmos/DTS-HD support.
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Malkana
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Malkana wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:38 pm
So what process do we need to use to playback Dolby Vision correctly from the new IPhone 12 (which uses profile 8.x) via either Infuse or the internal players on the LG CX or Panasonic z1000?
Anyone know how to do this?
DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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truthy wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:19 am
I successfully converted one GOT episode to MEL, HDR10+ was not present --> ISO --> back to mkv --> mkvmerge all audio tracks and subtitles pgs and srt.
I compared DoVi MEL with the Fire TV Stick 4k and plex from my qnap nas with the original FEL muxed in mp4 (2 video streams), which plays directly from usb on my LG C8LLA. Both look so much better than normal HDR, wich I can trigger via plex when I select the dts audio track, triggers transcode and switches back to HDR. With the AC3 track selected it switches back to DoVi. FEL looks slightly better of course, but it's not that noticable. One thing I noticed, is that I have to deselect the subtitles pgs/srt as it triggers transcode in plex. But when I select them during playback, directplay stays on, no trandscoding and they are displayed correctly both pgs and srt. (might be a plex bug) Especially with GOT that's quite important as there are quite a lot of foreign/invented language parts.

Repeating this procedure for 73 episodes to get DoVi to MEL so that my Fire TV Stick 4K can play it would take forever. I'm get a Nivdia Shield 2019, not the pro version, for comparison, FEL and Atmos/DTS-HD support.
Woaaa Horsey...

Get the pro version, have you not read the reviews of the tube?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Manixx2020beyound »

Malkana wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:50 am
Malkana wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:38 pm
So what process do we need to use to playback Dolby Vision correctly from the new IPhone 12 (which uses profile 8.x) via either Infuse or the internal players on the LG CX or Panasonic z1000?
Anyone know how to do this?
Use tsmuxer (GitHub) to mux into a ts
That should gave u profile 8.x which works in my CX.
truthy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:00 am
Woaaa Horsey...
Get the pro version, have you not read the reviews of the tube?
I have. Actually, I found much more negative reviews, especially regarding Wifi on the pro version. I don't need more internal storage, the USB-Ports are useless, 1GB more Ram will also not make much of a difference, I already have a plex server on my nas and have no need for SmartThings. As the hardware is almost identical I don't see any advantage to buy the pro version. Is there any downside regarding DoVi playback or why should I get the Pro version?
DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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truthy wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:41 pm
DaMacFunkin wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:00 am
Woaaa Horsey...
Get the pro version, have you not read the reviews of the tube?
I have. Actually, I found much more negative reviews, especially regarding Wifi on the pro version. I don't need more internal storage, the USB-Ports are useless, 1GB more Ram will also not make much of a difference, I already have a plex server on my nas and have no need for SmartThings. As the hardware is almost identical I don't see any advantage to buy the pro version. Is there any downside regarding DoVi playback or why should I get the Pro version?
The 1gb ram seems to make a lot of difference when playing back 4K, most people who have the tube have had problems with 4K playback from media files, the tube is only 32bit also whilst the pro is 64 bit.
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