Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[longseason]

Both DTDL files do not playback on the C8 internal player, the STDL ones trigger Dolby Vision but stutter.
Are you using the latest mp4muxer code from Github? It causes these issues on the C8 at least, while the first version posted in 2018 works perfectly. From this tree: https://github.com/DolbyLaboratories/dl ... 0d7ca4eabd

BTW, this is the only post I've seen mention the CX thing: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 477#p98477
So FWIW, still don't know how true it is.

Thanks for this tip - nothing I created with the more recent mp4muxer worked on my LG C7, but switching to this older version allowed me to create both profile 4 and profile 7 DTDL MP4s that worked both directly, over DLNA and over a Mac mini Plex server, which is ultimately what I'm looking for (I don't have a setup that supports TrueHD anyway).

Now I just have to hope that a firmware update doesn't hose support for profile 4 or 7!

[DaMacFunkin]

I have an LG CX so happy to test...

Oh, I thought you were referring to dual track mp4 as well. Those are pretty much the only reason I'd convert to mp4, because the C8 still supports them as profile 7 FEL.

As promised, here are some test files for you to try on LG devices.
GAMMA should now be able to return MP4 files as well (in addition to MKV ones).
I say "should" because today was a looooooooooooooooong day and I'm really tired (so forgive any mistakes).

Find the test files HERE.

They were all obtained from an initial m2ts FEL profile 7 file (only video, no audio).

The main reason why GAMMA has to return MP4 files is related to the "whispers" circulating these days that see the LG OLED 2020 TVs unable to play DTDL MP4 files.
Owners of these TVs should make sure the "FEL_to_Profile81.mp4" file is played.

@quietvoid pointed out to me that LG OLED TVs <= 2019 can still play DTDL files: having a faster method to generate this type of file would therefore be advantageous.
I modified GAMMA to get this type of file.

So, from a FEL m2ts file (profile 7) you can get the following MP4:

• DTDL_FEL.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4
• STDL_FEL.mp4
• STDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4
• FEL_to_Profile81.mp4

Try the files and let me know!


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DTDL = Dual Track Dual Layer
STDL = Single Track Dual Layer

Thanks, on my CX, as others have already stated, the only file that would play was ‘FEL_to_Profile81.mp4’. All the others came up with ‘video unsupported’ error message. The 8.1 file triggered Dolby vision though, so that’s good right?

On a side note: I find it interesting that while the video player will refuse to play any of the other files, it has no trouble creating the thumbnails for them. Just makes me think something else is stopping it even trying to play them - I.e the firmware update

On my UK LGC9 (Last firmware June) none of the DTDL play.
STDL play and trigger DV but very jerky as though is is plating some bytes from one layer then some bytes from the other.
8.1 plays and triggers DV fine.

[DaMacFunkin]

@yusesope I followed your steps in the post above to the letter.
.........................................
However the resultant files play back in HDR10 on my Zidoo Z9X.

I have updated the POST of the 0.0.4 GAMMA version.
I think I have made some steps forward.
THESE samples were obtained with the latter version.
Do they trigger DV on your devices?
The files contain an ATMOS audio track that could create some incompatibility with those devices without decoder, e.g. LG TVs.

So I finally tried these sample files, none trigger DoVi on Zidoo Z9X only HDR10.
On the Shield 2019 pro with Latest Plex Beta and Latest Plex Beta server all 3 - FEL, FEL to MEL and FEL to Profile 8.1 all trigger Dolby Vision... err wow...

Just for fun I tried them on Oppo 203, all 3 play in HDR10 only.

[yusesope]

Edit just saw your later comment to use direct to TV
Fel to 8.1 worked fine as dolby vision
All other files played as HDR PQ when direct to Panasonic z1000 OLED

FEL_to_Profile81.mp4 played in DV. All other files failed with the message "This file cannot be recognised..."

For my LG OLED C6 65"
Out of all the test files it played only the

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FEL_to_Profile81.mp4. 

Which only triggered HDR+10 not Dolby Vision.

Are you using the latest mp4muxer code from Github?

on my CX..............The 8.1 file triggered Dolby vision though, so that’s good right?

On my UK LGC9 (Last firmware June)
.....................
8.1 plays and triggers DV fine.

Ok. Your tests show that LG TVs (and Panasonic z1000) are still able to read a DV STDL profile 8.1 file (except for the LG C6...although the feedback seems strange to me since the file does not contain an HDR10+ track).
This is good news ...
The second good news is that these files were obtained without using Dolby's mp4muxer. The creation process is therefore much faster.

Both DTDL files do not playback on the C8 internal player, the STDL ones trigger Dolby Vision but stutter.

On my UK LGC9 (Last firmware June) none of the DTDL play.
STDL play and trigger DV but very jerky as though is is plating some bytes from one layer then some bytes from the other.

on my CX, as others have already stated, the only file that would play was ‘FEL_to_Profile81.mp4’. All the others came up with ‘video unsupported’ error message.

I wish I could also create working DTDL files.

I have generated four other FEL DTDL variants.
Each of them has small changes and the degree of complexity increases from file n1 to file n4.
These files can only be played using the INTERNAL PLAYER of LG TVs (via DLNA, USB).
If you want to try, you can find them HERE.
In your feedback please specify the TV model and the file that worked (if any of these will ever work ).

So I finally tried these sample files, none trigger DoVi on Zidoo Z9X only HDR10.
On the Shield 2019 pro with Latest Plex Beta and Latest Plex Beta server all 3 - FEL, FEL to MEL and FEL to Profile 8.1 all trigger Dolby Vision... err wow...
Just for fun I tried them on Oppo 203, all 3 play in HDR10 only.

Are you referring to MKV files?

The new exoplayer that we mention here, that can play dolby vision mkv files, is there a way to zoom/remove black bars in it?

Nope!

[PlatypusW]

I wish I could also create working DTDL files.

I have generated four other FEL DTDL variants.
Each of them has small changes and the degree of complexity increases from file n1 to file n4.
These files can only be played using the INTERNAL PLAYER of LG TVs (via DLNA, USB).
If you want to try, you can find them HERE.
In your feedback please specify the TV model and the file that worked (if any of these will ever work ).

Thanks, result below.

CX48 - Played via USB using the internal player:

DTDL_FEL_1: "This file cannot be recognised. Do you want to play the next file?"
DTDL_FEL_2: "This file cannot be recognised. Do you want to play the next file?"
DTDL_FEL_3: "This file cannot be recognised. Do you want to play the next file?"
DTDL_FEL_4: "This file cannot be recognised. Do you want to play the next file?"

[DaMacFunkin]

@yusesope I followed your steps in the post above to the letter.
.........................................
However the resultant files play back in HDR10 on my Zidoo Z9X.

I have updated the POST of the 0.0.4 GAMMA version.
I think I have made some steps forward.
THESE samples were obtained with the latter version.
Do they trigger DV on your devices?
The files contain an ATMOS audio track that could create some incompatibility with those devices without decoder, e.g. LG TVs.

So I finally tried these sample files, none trigger DoVi on Zidoo Z9X only HDR10.
On the Shield 2019 pro with Latest Plex Beta and Latest Plex Beta server all 3 - FEL, FEL to MEL and FEL to Profile 8.1 all trigger Dolby Vision... err wow...

Just for fun I tried them on Oppo 203, all 3 play in HDR10 only.

On this particular post I am referring to MKV samples as discussed and linked to in the quoted text.

[quietvoid]

I have generated four other FEL DTDL variants.
Each of them has small changes and the degree of complexity increases from file n1 to file n4.
These files can only be played using the INTERNAL PLAYER of LG TVs (via DLNA, USB).
If you want to try, you can find them HERE.
In your feedback please specify the TV model and the file that worked (if any of these will ever work ).

On my LG C8, via DLNA, they all show the endless spinning wheel and never start playing back.
Same behavior as the latest mp4muxer when creating dual track mp4s.
I thought you took inspiration from that code though. Maybe you could find a significant difference between 2018 and now's code.

[cuculain]

All four files

Zidoo Z9X direct to panasonic z1000 oled all 4 played hdr pq only ...no stutters
Panasonic z1000 Oled direct all 4 played hdr pq only ,,,no stutters

[DaMacFunkin]

I have updated the POST of the 0.0.4 GAMMA version.
I think I have made some steps forward.
THESE samples were obtained with the latter version.
Do they trigger DV on your devices?
The files contain an ATMOS audio track that could create some incompatibility with those devices without decoder, e.g. LG TVs.

So I finally tried these sample files, none trigger DoVi on Zidoo Z9X only HDR10.
On the Shield 2019 pro with Latest Plex Beta and Latest Plex Beta server all 3 - FEL, FEL to MEL and FEL to Profile 8.1 all trigger Dolby Vision... err wow...

Just for fun I tried them on Oppo 203, all 3 play in HDR10 only.

On this particular post I am referring to MKV samples as discussed and linked to in the quoted text.

Hi Yusesope, can you explain why you think FEL titles created with Gamma 004 don’t trigger DV on Zidoo Z9X regardless of which conversion to MEL or profile is used?

[bdub46]

Hi I'm New to this,

I'm trying to make a mp4 for Dolby Vision. I've seen some of the post on her and have tried the following,

tsmuxer Gui-- It makes the files but when i try to run those files with mp4muxer i get "ERROR! Can't open input file:Error parsing command line!"

When i use the dvmp4 maker it makes the mp4 file but it doesn't read on my tv as Dolby vison it reads as HDR
When i look up the file om MediaInfo is show 2 streams ans list the HDR10

Ive tried some of the sample mp4 on her and the do show Dolby Vision on my tv and when i look up the Mediainfo it show HDR/HDR
Im trying to get to that to show on the file i created on Mediainfo.

I've also tried eac3to334 which i assume is like tsmuxer and i get error saying the batch files isn't recognized.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Also I'm confused weather the layer is suppose to be single or dual layer for the mp4 track. I have an LG SuperUHD tv with a 19 Nvidia Shield.

Thanks,
Bdub46

[userr]

So im using Nvidia Shield 2019 Pro and Sony AG9/A9G OLED, ripping movies with makemkv and playing them with TrueHD, i do not get dolby vision, if i select AC3 audio track i do get DV, anyone know why?
I have old AVR, still using optical out from TV to AVR, is this why?

Im working on upgrading my audio situation, i just wanna know my files are futureproof

[daddy]

On LG C7, all 4 files = spinning wheel and never start playing back.

[Hi-Res]

I have tried MBOX demo video files on my iPad Pro, it seems that P5 can be identified as DoVi by infuse 6, but P8.1 can not.
Result:P5 play as DoVi, P8.1 play as HDR, I have uploaded these screenshots.

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/7316

I forgot to mention one very important info: Apple require the video track fourcc ID to be “dvh1” for Dolby Vision. So you need to change it manually using a Hex editor. (More info: the sample I recommended to you is “dvhe”, which cannot be played by QuickTime/Apple TV app)

Furthermore, Infuse only supports profile 5. If you want to test profile 8.x, you need to copy the the m4v file to the “Files” app, and preview with it. (And you must use iPadOS 14.1 or 14.2 beta 4, or later versions, in order to support profile 8.x)

How do I change from dvhe to dvh1? Using a hex editor? How would I make the appropriate changes from dvhe to dvh1. It's showing up as HDR on infuse. If you could show me how to change the value. That would be appreciated.

Mediainfo

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
File size                                : 58.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Overall bit rate                         : 78.0 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : dvhe
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate                                 : 77.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.389
Stream size                              : 58.4 GiB (99%)
Default                                  : No
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 606 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 495 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : No
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07

[kws53]

I have the following TEST data points to offer for 3 scenarios:

1. Plex Windows Server->Shield 2019 Pro Plex Client->LG CX77
2. Plex Windows Server->LG WebOS Plex Client->LG CX77 (eARC)
3. Plex Windows Server->Sony x700 DLNA Client->LG CX77

Server = Version 1.20.3.3483
LG WebOS Plex Client Version = 5.3.1 (Client)
Shield Pro OS = Version 8.2.0
Shield Pro Plex Client = Version 7.23.0.13018
Sony x700 DLNA Client = latest US version as today

These Yusesope trial muxes were run:

• DTDL_FEL.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_1.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_2.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_3.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_4.mp4
• DTDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4
• STDL_FEL.mp4
• STDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4
• FEL_to_Profile81.mp4
• FEL.mkv
• FEL_to_MEL.mkv
• FEL_to_Profile81.mkv

For what it is worth, I also tried:

1. A full DTDL .ts (TSMuxer) mux of 1917 (FEL)
   • Video 1 = SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
   • Video 2 = Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.05, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
2. A full DTDL .ts (TSMuxer) mux of Shazam (MEL)
   • Video 1 = SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
   • Video 2 = Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.05, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
3. A full STDL .ts (Alpha) mux of Shazam (MEL)
   • Video = Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.05, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
4. A full DTDL .MP4 (Original MP4 method) mux of Casino Royale (MEL)
   • Video 1 = SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
   • Video 2 = Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
5. A full STDL .ts (Alpha) mux of First Man (FEL)
   • Video = Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

Results (1=Shield, 2=WebOs, 3=X700):

• DTDL_FEL.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• DTDL_FEL_1.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• DTDL_FEL_2.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• DTDL_FEL_3.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• DTDL_FEL_4.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• DTDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DV
• STDL_FEL.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DNP
• STDL_FEL_to_MEL.mp4: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=DNP
• FEL_to_Profile81.mp4: 1=HDR, 2=DV, 3=HDR
• FEL.mkv: 1=HDR, 2= HDR, 3=HDR (Audio Error)
• FEL_to_MEL.mkv: 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=HDR (Audio Error)
• FEL_to_Profile81.mkv: 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=HDR (Audio Error)
• 1917.ts: 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=DV (buffering issues after 3-5 minutes)
• Shazam.ts (STDL): 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=DNP (had multiple video issues with my Sony x700/Denon x4700/LG CX77 combination - scrambled pixellated overlay which required a power down of all equipment to reset)
• Shazam.ts (DTDL): 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=DNP
• Casino Royale.mp4: 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=DV (audio not recognized)
• Casino Royale.ts: 1=HDR, 2=DV (incompatible eARC audio), 3=DNP
• First Man.ts: 1=HDR, 2=HDR, 3=DNP

In summary:

• All DTDL MP4 test files triggered DV for x700 - may or may not be buffering issues, files too small
• DTDL .ts file triggered DV for x700 - buffering issues
• MP4 files from early method triggered DV in x700 but audio limitations prevented use
• No file configuration to date triggered DV in Shield
• Casino Royale.ts (Alpha method) triggered DV in WebOS but LG eARC audio restrictions prevented sound
• FEL_to_Profile81.mp4 triggered DV in WebOS but LG eARC audio restrictions will be issue

Ultimately, I need SOMETHING to trigger DV in the Shield...

[DaMacFunkin]

I have tried MBOX demo video files on my iPad Pro, it seems that P5 can be identified as DoVi by infuse 6, but P8.1 can not.
Result:P5 play as DoVi, P8.1 play as HDR, I have uploaded these screenshots.

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/7316

I forgot to mention one very important info: Apple require the video track fourcc ID to be “dvh1” for Dolby Vision. So you need to change it manually using a Hex editor. (More info: the sample I recommended to you is “dvhe”, which cannot be played by QuickTime/Apple TV app)

Furthermore, Infuse only supports profile 5. If you want to test profile 8.x, you need to copy the the m4v file to the “Files” app, and preview with it. (And you must use iPadOS 14.1 or 14.2 beta 4, or later versions, in order to support profile 8.x)

How do I change from dvhe to dvh1? Using a hex editor? How would I make the appropriate changes from dvhe to dvh1. It's showing up as HDR on infuse. If you could show me how to change the value. That would be appreciated.

Mediainfo

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
File size                                : 58.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Overall bit rate                         : 78.0 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : dvhe
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate                                 : 77.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.389
Stream size                              : 58.4 GiB (99%)
Default                                  : No
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 606 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 495 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : No
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-30 15:47:07

Err... rip Casino Royale to mkv with latest Makemkv = Dolby Vision on Shield 2019 pro via latest Plex - it’s that easy.