Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[ray_007]

I don't know what UHD's you have, but AFAIK, Furious 7 has no Dolby Vision or HDR10+ (only static HDR), and Birds of Prey has MEL.

edited my original post. Also, they are both HDR10+ and FEL titles, at least in my case.

yeah... that's different.. Hobbs and Shaw has FEL, but I haven't seen Birds of Prey with FEL, only MEL.

According to https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448 Birds of Prey is still unidentified (since there is no MEL or FEL) description unlike other titles. There could be a case that it was released through different sources e.g Robin Hood but who knows. All i know is that when I loaded the file in Makemkv, it showed as FEL and that is it

[DaMacFunkin]

edited my original post. Also, they are both HDR10+ and FEL titles, at least in my case.

yeah... that's different.. Hobbs and Shaw has FEL, but I haven't seen Birds of Prey with FEL, only MEL.

According to https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448 Birds of Prey is still unidentified (since there is no MEL or FEL) description unlike other titles. There could be a case that it was released through different sources e.g Robin Hood but who knows. All i know is that when I loaded the file in Makemkv, it showed as FEL and that is it

Have there not been cases when Youscope has advised Mike that some files are being identified as FEL when they are actually MEL?

[jlpsvk]

edited my original post. Also, they are both HDR10+ and FEL titles, at least in my case.

yeah... that's different.. Hobbs and Shaw has FEL, but I haven't seen Birds of Prey with FEL, only MEL.

According to https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448 Birds of Prey is still unidentified (since there is no MEL or FEL) description unlike other titles. There could be a case that it was released through different sources e.g Robin Hood but who knows. All i know is that when I loaded the file in Makemkv, it showed as FEL and that is it

65kbps for DV EL LAYER is NOT FEL.

[Buzzie]

Hello,

Since this past weekend i am also trying to convert Ultra HD movies to any format as long as Dolby Vision and HD audio stays intact.
I am trying to accomplish this with the Full Ultra Bluray of Back to The Future.
I have some questions.

I have no idea how to determine of this is FEL or MEL.
How can you check this??

With the script made by Yusesope i have succesfully made an BL.hevc and EL.hevc files
After that i made the BL_EL_RPU.hevc file with conversion MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_MEL

But when i try to create a TS file with TSmuxer and the BL_EL_RPU.hevc i keep getting an error message "not enough buffer to parse video stream"
Did i do something wrong?

I also tried with mp4muxer to create an mp4 instead but this keeps stopping when the file is about 12 GB.

Last question is how to add the HD audio to the TS file if that one finally works?

Any help is really appreciated

Thanks in Advance!!

Walter

[ray_007]

yeah... that's different.. Hobbs and Shaw has FEL, but I haven't seen Birds of Prey with FEL, only MEL.

According to https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448 Birds of Prey is still unidentified (since there is no MEL or FEL) description unlike other titles. There could be a case that it was released through different sources e.g Robin Hood but who knows. All i know is that when I loaded the file in Makemkv, it showed as FEL and that is it

65kbps for DV EL LAYER is NOT FEL.

I think i will go with what the software is telling me, since its been made by people who know what they are doing and i trust their judgment. If anything changes in the future I might decided to re-rip it but for now I am happy with the results

[bivoj]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.ph ... e=135#2694

[jlpsvk]

According to https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448 Birds of Prey is still unidentified (since there is no MEL or FEL) description unlike other titles. There could be a case that it was released through different sources e.g Robin Hood but who knows. All i know is that when I loaded the file in Makemkv, it showed as FEL and that is it

65kbps for DV EL LAYER is NOT FEL.

I think i will go with what the software is telling me, since its been made by people who know what they are doing and i trust their judgment. If anything changes in the future I might decided to re-rip it but for now I am happy with the results

I relly don't know, what you are talking about... info from MakeMKV on Birds of Prey

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1 (dvhe.07.06 BL+MEL+RPU)
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

and info from DVDfab 12.0.0.3

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VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       59863 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10+ v1 Profile B / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     65 kbps (0.11%)     1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision MEL / BT.2020

[kazuma]

i have really don't have a idea what all this discussussion is about my only question is of this is relevant for me? i use profile 7 on my lg C9. there is no better solution than this for me i suppose?

[jlpsvk]

i have really don't have a idea what all this discussussion is about my only question is of this is relevant for me? i use profile 7 on my lg C9. there is no better solution than this for me i suppose?

if it works, don't fix it.

[jlpsvk]

i just realised....

when i mux hevc file from ys's tool with mkvtoolnix, makemkv recognizes this as dvhe.07.00, BL+RPU, but created mkv is dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU in mediainfo... this is known thing...

but when i ran THAT mkv through makemkv again, makemkv recognise the mkv correctly, as dvhe.07.06, BL+FEL+RPU, and outputted MKV is also correct... dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU in mediainfo. so mkv_patcher is "not needed"... but requires more space and time.

[cuculain]

Buzzie ..re adding atmos audio back in

heres my round about method

basicclly make the mkv from full uhd rip with makemkv

using mkvtoolnix gui ,add in that resultant mkv files then select what you want to keep...in this case the atmos tracks and maybe subs ,thatt will save as an mka files


go thru all the normal steps now with ys tool untill the very end when were back to making the final mkv
now just add the final makemkv file with the mka file ,back in mkvtoolnix gui and your back to full atmos and dv

ie did this fine FINALLY on terminator Dark genesis..changing the FEL down to a MEL 8 with atmos
but same with the mel 7s
after 4 -7 mins movie starts to stutter ,and audio goes out of synch by 2 secs
i beleive this is issue at chapter breaks
ie Alita mel 7 starts fine DV and atmos looks great...4 5 mins in movie goes out of synch and audio lags by at least 2 secs
If i slide the movie forward a bit it all resysnches for a few mins and then goes back out of synch ,and audio out by 2 secs again ...and happens each time i slide forward
and each time if i check theres a new chapter up

This is on Zidoo Z9X ,sony DN 1080 amp ,Panasonic Z1000 OLED

hope this helps some

[jlpsvk]

@yusesope
i was wondering more...

would it be possible to extract RPU metadata from the secondary HEVC stream on BD? that can be then used directly with x265 to encode directly to profile 5 or 8.1

[HongyuS]

The new launched iPhone 12 can produce Dolby Vision Video. So we can have more DoVi videos created by official proven method.

The iPhone 12 spec says:

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 HDR video recording with Dolby Vision up to 30 fps

Sample DoVi video shot on iPhone 12, it is profile 8.1, with HLG compatibility.

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General
Complete name                            : /Users/hongyushi/Movies/iPhone 12 Pro 杜比视界样片.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 238 MiB
Duration                                 : 47 s 147 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 42.3 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-17 12:55:31
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-17 12:56:19
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.location.accuracy.ho : 228.095906
com.apple.quicktime.location.ISO6709     : +23.1371+113.3256+025.978/
com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model                : iPhone 12 Pro
com.apple.quicktime.software             : 14.1
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate         : 2020-10-17T20:55:31+0800

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.0A, BL+RPU, HLG compatible
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 47 s 145 ms
Bit rate                                 : 42.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 45.008 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.113
Stream size                              : 236 MiB (99%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-17 12:55:31
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-17 12:56:19
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : HLG
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvvC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 47 s 145 ms
Source duration                          : 47 s 206 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 181 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 1.02 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 1.02 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-17 12:55:31
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-10-17 12:56:19

Other #1
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 47 s 147 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Other #2
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 47 s 147 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Other #3
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 47 s 147 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable

[Buzzie]

Buzzie ..re adding atmos audio back in

heres my round about method

basicclly make the mkv from full uhd rip with makemkv

using mkvtoolnix gui ,add in that resultant mkv files then select what you want to keep...in this case the atmos tracks and maybe subs ,thatt will save as an mka files


go thru all the normal steps now with ys tool untill the very end when were back to making the final mkv
now just add the final makemkv file with the mka file ,back in mkvtoolnix gui and your back to full atmos and dv

ie did this fine FINALLY on terminator Dark genesis..changing the FEL down to a MEL 8 with atmos
but same with the mel 7s
after 4 -7 mins movie starts to stutter ,and audio goes out of synch by 2 secs
i beleive this is issue at chapter breaks
ie Alita mel 7 starts fine DV and atmos looks great...4 5 mins in movie goes out of synch and audio lags by at least 2 secs
If i slide the movie forward a bit it all resysnches for a few mins and then goes back out of synch ,and audio out by 2 secs again ...and happens each time i slide forward
and each time if i check theres a new chapter up

This is on Zidoo Z9X ,sony DN 1080 amp ,Panasonic Z1000 OLED

hope this helps some

Thanks for the reply.

I will look at it

[Buzzie]

Ok Guys,

I have another question.
I have the full UHD rips of the BTTF Trilogy

I decided to put it in MakeMKV (latest version) and made an MKV. I kept the video ofcourse (only showed the DV file) and the atmos/truehd and ac3 track with subs

When it was done i fired up Mediainfo and it showed the following :

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General
Unique ID                                : 295946655838674587133456066759437926418 (0xDEA540AD2706E8C288536817A7FD4012)
Complete name                            : D:\BTFF2\Back to the Future Part II_t00.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 67.7 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 89.7 Mb/s
Movie name                               : Back to the Future Part II
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-20 22:18:16
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.15.3 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.15.3 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate                                 : 84.6 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.425
Stream size                              : 63.8 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 606 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                                   : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID                                 : A_TRUEHD
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 4 602 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 6 954 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 3.47 GiB (5%)
Title                                    : Surround 7.1
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : A_AC3
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 346 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Surround 5.1
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Text #1
ID                                       : 4
ID in the original source medium         : 4768 (0x12A0)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 1 h 42 min
Bit rate                                 : 46.8 kb/s
Count of elements                        : 3312
Stream size                              : 34.3 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Text #2
ID                                       : 6
ID in the original source medium         : 4771 (0x12A3)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                            : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                                 : 1 h 42 min
Bit rate                                 : 985 b/s
Count of elements                        : 76
Stream size                              : 743 KiB (0%)
Language                                 : Spanish
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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I started the movie on my Shield 2019 Pro.

Plex showed HDR with Dolby Atmos
Kodi, with altered (i think) exoplayer as default player, played Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos.
Plex on my LG C9 TV played only in HDR with AC3 sound. With TrueHD on i could not play it but that is my settings somewhere i think.
I only started the movie so i dont know if there are any OutOfSync issues.

Any idea why i dont see 2 video?
normally there are 2 video right?

Is it a good rip/remux?

I did not use any other tools.