Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[yusesope]

JOKER UHD with MEL...
after "convert to 81" and then demux, EL_RPU is about halfsize... and when I am trying remux again to 8.1, if fails.

You're making a mess!

After converting to profile 8.1, STOP!
You are done with my tool!

and one more question... do I need convert FEL to MEL first and then "convert to 8.1" or "convert to 8.1" converts FEL to MEL automatically?
and is it possible to demux the 8.1 profile????

What's the point of demuxing a profile 8.1? There is no longer an EL to demux!

No, it is not necessary to convert a FEL to MEL and then to profile 8.1
The possible conversions are:
FEL -> FEL
FEL -> MEL
MEL -> MEL
FEL\MEL -> profile 8.1

HERE you will find the instructions to follow!

OK I got hold of your 0.0.4 beta package and did the following

• Ran MUX_EXPERIMENTAL.bat adding in the main M2TS file from the movie 1917. I updated the script within the .bat file to

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  python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp

• Imported the resultant HEVC file into latest version of MKVToolNix and added film title followed by 37 underscores. I added the M2TS file from 1917 into MKVToolNix excluding everything except Atmos audio and one subtitle track.

• ran MKV_Patcher.bat dropping in the MKV file created and typed 8.

Unfortunately the end result MKV file does not play at all. It freezes with black screen

No, you didn't do anything wrong!
I'm just looking for a way to save you time!
I can't directly test what I write that's why your feedback is important!
We are in a testing phase, it is normal for something not to work.

If you want a playable file, you can find the latest operating instructions HERE.

Now, I'm more than sure the experimental muxer works ...
If you feed the broken MKV file to MakeMKV (version> = 1.15.3), do you get a playable MKV?

The more practical ones could also try to use the experimental muxer by replacing the first steps of the instructions (always this POST) with it.

[jlpsvk]

What's the point of demuxing a profile 8.1? There is no longer an EL to demux!

No, it is not necessary to convert a FEL to MEL and then to profile 8.1
The possible conversions are:
FEL -> FEL
FEL -> MEL
MEL -> MEL
FEL\MEL -> profile 8.1

ok... so when I want to encode BL, i need the original EL and mux with encoded BL to have profile 8.1 again, right?

[PlatypusW]

How are others testing the fire stick? Using plex?

I’ve installed Kodi and got the custom exoplayer setup the same as my shield, but unlike my shield I can’t plug any external storage into it so I’m forced to use the network. Can’t seem to get samba or ftp to work correctly. I managed to get something off my local http web server but that’s not exactly ideal

Just wondering if there’s a way to get network storage to work with exoplayer on the firestick? I know on the shield you had to mount the share via the shield itself rather than through Kodi, but I think the firestick is too locked down for that?

[blenky]

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OK I got hold of your 0.0.4 beta package and did the following

• Ran MUX_EXPERIMENTAL.bat adding in the main M2TS file from the movie 1917. I updated the script within the .bat file to

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  python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp

• Imported the resultant HEVC file into latest version of MKVToolNix and added film title followed by 37 underscores. I added the M2TS file from 1917 into MKVToolNix excluding everything except Atmos audio and one subtitle track.

• ran MKV_Patcher.bat dropping in the MKV file created and typed 8.

Unfortunately the end result MKV file does not play at all. It freezes with black screen

No, you didn't do anything wrong!
I'm just looking for a way to save you time!
I can't directly test what I write that's why your feedback is important!
We are in a testing phase, it is normal for something not to work.

If you want a playable file, you can find the latest operating instructions HERE.

Now, I'm more than sure the experimental muxer works ...
If you feed the broken MKV file to MakeMKV (version> = 1.15.3), do you get a playable MKV?

The more practical ones could also try to use the experimental muxer by replacing the first steps of the instructions (always this POST) with it.

OK I made change to my process that works - note change made in bold:

Using 0.0.4 beta package and did the following

• Ran MUX_EXPERIMENTAL.bat adding in the main M2TS file from the movie 1917. I updated the script within the .bat file to

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp

• Demuxed Atmos track from 1917 .M2TS file using TSMuxer

• Imported the resultant HEVC file into latest version of MKVToolNix and added demuxed .ac3 file generated by Tsmuxer.

• Added film title followed by 37 underscores and create MKV

• ran MKV_Patcher.bat dropping in the MKV file created and typed 8.

The resultant MKV plays in DV with Dolby Atmos track! Result. However as I have a Z9X and a LG CX TV there is a known issue. The TV keeps resyncing and after about 5 minutes playback gets choppy. Hopefully at some point this will get fixed

[jlpsvk]

just a though....

it would be nice to have .BAT for the following operations (if possible)...

1) convert BL.hevc with HDR10+ to BL.hevc without HDR10+ (separately, without muxing to DV file)
2) convert EL (FEL).hevc to EL (MEL).hevc (separately, without muxing to DV file)

The first should be possible I think, the second... I really don't know...

Right now, if I want to create Profile 8.1 without HDR10+, i need to use MUX.bat with -skip_hdr10plus, then demux, and then use MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_PROFILE_81.bat and use BL.hevc without HDR10+

[blenky]

just a though....

it would be nice to have .BAT for the following operations (if possible)...

1) convert BL.hevc with HDR10+ to BL.hevc without HDR10+ (separately, without muxing to DV file)
2) convert EL (FEL).hevc to EL (MEL).hevc (separately, without muxing to DV file)

The first should be possible I think, the second... I really don't know...

Right now, if I want to create Profile 8.1 without HDR10+, i need to use MUX.bat with -skip_hdr10plus, then demux, and then use MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_PROFILE_81.bat and use BL.hevc without HDR10+

For 1) above couldn't you do what I did with the FEL movie 1917? See post above.

[yusesope]

The resultant MKV plays in DV with Dolby Atmos track! Result. However as I have a Z9X and a LG CX TV there is a known issue. The TV keeps resyncing and after about 5 minutes playback gets choppy. Hopefully at some point this will get fixed

Great result! Thanks for not giving up! It's a shame about the Z9X + LG CX problem.
So, are you telling me the only difference was the way you imported the audio into MkvToolNix?
Strange!
When someone with a FireStick 4K\Shield 2019\Ugoos tries it, maybe we'll have some more data to think about!
To you others, which of the following two approaches works?

OK I got hold of your 0.0.4 beta package and did the following

• Ran MUX_EXPERIMENTAL.bat adding in the main M2TS file from the movie 1917. I updated the script within the .bat file to

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  python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp

• Imported the resultant HEVC file into latest version of MKVToolNix and added film title followed by 37 underscores. I added the M2TS file from 1917 into MKVToolNix excluding everything except Atmos audio and one subtitle track.

• ran MKV_Patcher.bat dropping in the MKV file created and typed 8.

Unfortunately the end result MKV file does not play at all. It freezes with black screen

Using 0.0.4 beta package and did the following

• Ran MUX_EXPERIMENTAL.bat adding in the main M2TS file from the movie 1917. I updated the script within the .bat file to

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp

• Demuxed Atmos track from 1917 .M2TS file using TSMuxer

• Imported the resultant HEVC file into latest version of MKVToolNix and added demuxed .ac3 file generated by Tsmuxer.

• Added film title followed by 37 underscores and create MKV

• ran MKV_Patcher.bat dropping in the MKV file created and typed 8.

The resultant MKV plays in DV with Dolby Atmos track

I am glad that both the experimental muxer and the Patcher are working correctly!
The second is still not perfect: in case it returns an error, attach the first 20 seconds of the mkv to your post so I can improve it!

ok... so when I want to encode BL, i need the original EL and mux with encoded BL to have profile 8.1 again, right?

Quite right (mux in -mode 2 for profile 8.1).
However, I do not recommend video encoding: it is technically wrong in the case of DoVi and my tool is not designed for this type of use!
Just my two cents, you are free to do what you want!

just a though....

it would be nice to have .BAT for the following operations (if possible)...

1) convert BL.hevc with HDR10+ to BL.hevc without HDR10+ (separately, without muxing to DV file)
2) convert EL (FEL).hevc to EL (MEL).hevc (separately, without muxing to DV file)

The first should be possible I think, the second... I really don't know...

Right now, if I want to create Profile 8.1 without HDR10+, i need to use MUX.bat with -skip_hdr10plus, then demux, and then use MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_PROFILE_81.bat and use BL.hevc without HDR10+

All those ".bat" files are USELESS!
They just generate confusion and I certainly will not create new ones!
The only useful one is "SHOW_HELP.bat": it tells you what to use to build a simple command line.

In your specific case, is it so complicated to open a Command Prompt window in my tool folder (tutorial HERE) and paste the following command line into it?

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux -bl \path\to\your\BL.hevc -el \path\to\your\EL_RPU.hevc  -of \path\to\your\output\file.hevc

Or even better, use the experimental muxer and save yourself the trouble of demuxing BL and EL?

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python.exe src\app.py -mode_exp 2 -skip_hdr10plus -mux_exp -if_exp \path\to\your\input\file.m2ts -of_exp \path\to\your\output\file.hevc

Read the two command lines aloud: it's English ... not ancient Aramaic!

I managed to get something off my local http web server but that’s not exactly ideal

You just need a simple DLNA server (the DLNA capabilities of Windows, Plex Media Server, Serviio, minidlna, etc ...)

[jlpsvk]

just a though....

it would be nice to have .BAT for the following operations (if possible)...

1) convert BL.hevc with HDR10+ to BL.hevc without HDR10+ (separately, without muxing to DV file)
2) convert EL (FEL).hevc to EL (MEL).hevc (separately, without muxing to DV file)

The first should be possible I think, the second... I really don't know...

Right now, if I want to create Profile 8.1 without HDR10+, i need to use MUX.bat with -skip_hdr10plus, then demux, and then use MUX_AND_CONVERT_TO_PROFILE_81.bat and use BL.hevc without HDR10+

For 1) above couldn't you do what I did with the FEL movie 1917? See post above.

I saw that.. with experimental muxer... with the default one, you cannot use "skip_hdr10plus" with "mode 2"

[jlpsvk]

Quite right (mux in -mode 2 for profile 8.1).
However, I do not recommend video encoding: it is technically wrong in the case of DoVi and my tool is not designed for this type of use!
Just my two cents, you are free to do what you want!

Encodes work great using profile 8.1. The only thing, you cannot CROP.

All those ".bat" files are USELESS!
They just generate confusion and I certainly will not create new ones!
The only useful one is "SHOW_HELP.bat": it tells you what to use to build a simple command line.

in help is written, that -skip-hdr10plus cannot be used with -mode 2... or this belongs to -fel_to_mel option before? if yes.. that my fault and wrong text formatting in CMD line.

I get a strange think after using MKV_patcher...

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HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

[yusesope]

Encodes work great using profile 8.1. The only thing, you cannot CROP.

My advice doesn't change ...

in help is written, that -skip-hdr10plus cannot be used with -mode 2... or this belongs to -fel_to_mel option before? if yes.. that my fault and wrong text formatting in CMD line.

I get a strange think after using MKV_patcher...

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HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

Have you used the Patcher more than once on the same file (or in any case on a file that was already marked as dvhe 07)?
If the answer is yes, then I suggest you delete the file and start over!
The patcher should only be used once and on a blank file (not marked as dvhe).
Follow the instructions!

[blenky]

The resultant MKV plays in DV with Dolby Atmos track! Result. However as I have a Z9X and a LG CX TV there is a known issue. The TV keeps resyncing and after about 5 minutes playback gets choppy. Hopefully at some point this will get fixed

Great result! Thanks for not giving up! It's a shame about the Z9X + LG CX problem.
So, are you telling me the only difference was the way you imported the audio into MkvToolNix?
Strange!

Yes the only change was to demux the audio track using tsmuxer. In fact I also demuxed the audio using MKVToolnix to produce a .mka file. This I then used in place of the .ac3 file and got exactly the same result.

1917 media info - audio demuxed by tsmuxer

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General
Unique ID                                : 158994169392423172572464221880045162200 (0x779D29C644B071A160A3EBF33EFE4ED8)
Complete name                            : Y:\1917.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 61.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 74.0 Mb/s
Movie name                               : 1917
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-18 00:38:38
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v51.0.0 ('I Wish') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.4.0 + libmatroska v1.6.2

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.2 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.353
Stream size                              : 58.3 GiB (95%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 168 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID                                 : A_TRUEHD
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 3 810 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 158 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 3.17 GiB (5%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

1917 media info - audio demuxed with MKVToolnix

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General
Unique ID                                : 101503202418631736350801217865464859135 (0x4C5CCE4248E1C288FE5BBFDD6072C9FF)
Complete name                            : Y:\1917mka.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 61.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 74.0 Mb/s
Movie name                               : 1917
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-10-18 01:00:51
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v51.0.0 ('I Wish') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.4.0 + libmatroska v1.6.2

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.2 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.353
Stream size                              : 58.3 GiB (95%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 168 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID                                 : A_TRUEHD
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 3 810 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 158 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Delay relative to video                  : 17 ms
Stream size                              : 3.17 GiB (5%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

[jlpsvk]

i have empty line break between "Enhancement Layer)" and "Cannot be used.." so it looks like it belongs to -skip-hdr10plus

Have you used the Patcher more than once on the same file (or in any case on a file that was already marked as dvhe 07)?

Yes... without the patch, file was generated as dvhe.07.00, and when run through MakeMKV, i go dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU... not BL...
After using the patch on that king of MKV, MakeMKV recons the MKV correctly and after re-re-mux, it's already OK....

My work flow:
1) mux BL+EL with -fel_to_mel
2) mux BL_EL_RPU.hevc with mkvtoolnix to MKV
3) re-mux with MakeMKV... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU" (MakeMKV recognized MKV from step 2 as dvhe.07.00, BL+RPU)
4) patch with mkv_patcher... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU"
5) re-mux with MakeMKV... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible)
6) done... even MakeMKV recognizes the file from step 5 as dvhe.07.06, BL+MEL+RPU...

[yusesope]

My work flow:
1) mux BL+EL with -fel_to_mel
2) mux BL_EL_RPU.hevc with mkvtoolnix to MKV
3) re-mux with MakeMKV... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU" (MakeMKV recognized MKV from step 2 as dvhe.07.00, BL+RPU)
4) patch with mkv_patcher... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU"
5) re-mux with MakeMKV... got "Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible)
6) done... even MakeMKV recognizes the file from step 5 as dvhe.07.06, BL+MEL+RPU...

Stop at step 2 and use my patcher on the mkv generated by MkvToolNix and you are done ...

The resultant MKV plays in DV with Dolby Atmos track! Result. However as I have a Z9X and a LG CX TV there is a known issue. The TV keeps resyncing and after about 5 minutes playback gets choppy. Hopefully at some point this will get fixed

Great result! Thanks for not giving up! It's a shame about the Z9X + LG CX problem.
So, are you telling me the only difference was the way you imported the audio into MkvToolNix?
Strange!

Yes the only change was to demux the audio track using tsmuxer. In fact I also demuxed the audio using MKVToolnix to produce a .mka file. This I then used in place of the .ac3 file and got exactly the same result.

We will discuss it again when someone else (with a device other than yours) does some testing.
For now, thanks for your time!

[jlpsvk]

Stop at step 2 and use my patcher on the mkv generated by MkvToolNix and you are done ...

ok... but why MakeMKV recognizes the file as "dvhe.07.00, BL+RPU" and creates "dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU"?

after my workflow, everything is correctly recognized in MakeMKV, ever MEL or FEL...

Don't get me wrong.. I really appreciate your great work. I'm just trying maybe help to make things easier and clearer...

And one question... are thore underscores still needed in "Movie Title" for MKV patcher?

[yusesope]

Stop at step 2 and use my patcher on the mkv generated by MkvToolNix and you are done ...

ok... but why MakeMKV recognizes the file as "dvhe.07.00, BL+RPU" and creates "dvhe.07.00, EL+RPU"?

after my workflow, everything is correctly recognized in MakeMKV, ever MEL or FEL...

Don't get me wrong.. I really appreciate your great work. I'm just trying maybe help to make things easier and clearer...

And one question... are thore underscores still needed in "Movie Title" for MKV patcher?

No problem!
Do what you see fit!

I was saying it to save you time!

Why MakeMKV does not detect the correct profile level (07.00 vs 07.06) depends on the fact that my FEL -> MEL are not standard! The technical explanation can be found on the previous pages!


Yep, underscores are the heart of my hack ... without them the patcher can't work!