Dolby Vision and 1.15.3

[Rumourd]

What if you used 1.15.1 and later? Will it work then?

Yes.

1.15.0 - DV discarded
1.15.1 - DV bitstream preserved when opening BD disc. Discarded if source is MKV file. A bug - DV bitstream is (slightly and reversibly) corrupted. No MKV DV metadata.
1.15.2 - DV bitstream preserved when opening BD disc. Discarded if source is MKV file. No bitstream corruption bug. Full MKV DV metadata.
1.15.3 - DV bitstream preserved when opening all sources. DV metadata ignored in source container, full MKV DV metadata always reconstructed from bitstream. Corrupted bitstream produced by 1.15.1 is recognized and repaired. DV bitstreams with invalid codec IDs (V_QUICKTIME and V_MS_FOURCC/DVHE) produced by mkvtoolnix and ffmpeg are properly recognized.

Thanks, and thanks for this great software! Hopefully plex will add DV readability soon!

[tazlord]

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I have tried it in 2 scenarios (below) with unexpected results.
Am I doing something wrong?

Scenario 1: MKV with original BL and EL tracks embedded.
Supplying an MKV with both of the original BL and EL tracks embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original "Dual-Layer" tracks (BL + EL) wrapped in MKV

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

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Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2176
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Scenario 2: MKV with original HDR10 HEVC track (BL only) embedded.
Supplying an MKV with only the original BL track (no EL track) embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original BL track wrapped in MKV

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

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Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman_bl_only
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

[Fuluer]

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I have tried it in 2 scenarios (below) with unexpected results.
Am I doing something wrong?

Scenario 1: MKV with original BL and EL tracks embedded.
Supplying an MKV with both of the original BL and EL tracks embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original "Dual-Layer" tracks (BL + EL) wrapped in MKV

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

Code: Select all

Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2176
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Scenario 2: MKV with original HDR10 HEVC track (BL only) embedded.
Supplying an MKV with only the original BL track (no EL track) embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original BL track wrapped in MKV

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

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Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman_bl_only
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

It's not ideal - requires 3 programs, 2 intermediate files, lots of storage, and time - but this works consistently viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23306&p=97160#p97160

[jlpsvk]

when i use as source MKV, with video from yousesope's tool mode 2, i get dvhe.07.00 BL+RPU... is that correct??? i think it should not be 07.00... probably 05.06 would be ideal for single track single layer MEL

[tazlord]

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I have tried it in 2 scenarios (below) with unexpected results.
Am I doing something wrong?

It's not ideal - requires 3 programs, 2 intermediate files, lots of storage, and time - but this works consistently viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23306&p=97160#p97160

Unfortunately, the method described in that post doesn't seem to work for me either.

[shawnc22]

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I have tried it in 2 scenarios (below) with unexpected results.
Am I doing something wrong?

Scenario 1: MKV with original BL and EL tracks embedded.
Supplying an MKV with both of the original BL and EL tracks embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original "Dual-Layer" tracks (BL + EL) wrapped in MKV

Code: Select all

Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

Code: Select all

Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2176
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Scenario 2: MKV with original HDR10 HEVC track (BL only) embedded.
Supplying an MKV with only the original BL track (no EL track) embedded to MakeMKV 1.15.3 does not return expected results. MakeMKV does not display any DV metadata when selecting this type of MKV as the source. Executing the "remux" results in an MKV file with a single HDR10 HEVC track with no DV metadata present (loading the resulting MKV back into MakeMKV shows no DV metadata present).

Original BL track wrapped in MKV

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Track information
Type: Video
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Resulting single-track MKV from MakeMKV using the above file as source

Code: Select all

Track information
Type: Video
Name: Aquaman_bl_only
Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1
Resolution: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001)

Scenario 2 is obviously not going to work because the EL was discarded in the original remux process. You're not magically going to get the DV EL back when running it through 1.15.3.

As for scenario 1, I haven't tried it myself, but from the reports of others, it doesn't look like 1.15.3 will recognize mkvs that have BL and EL layers on separate tracks. At this point, you have a few options to get to a compliant DV mkv file (assuming the BL and EL tracks were not altered in any way during the remux process):

1) The easiest way is to probably just drop the mkv into tsmuxer, create a structured bluray iso, mount it and then load it with makemkv. If the mkv contains an atmos track, you will need to extract it and convert it first to thd+ac3 format with eac3to before using it with tsmuxer.

2) The longer and not entirely sure it'll work method is to extract out the BL and EL layers from the mkv, merge it with yusecope's tool into a single BL+EL+RPU track, drop it into an mkv (mkvtoolnix or tsmuxer -> ts and then a 1:1 container conversion with ffmpeg), and finally open it with makemkv and remux.

[tazlord]

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I have tried it in 2 scenarios (below) with unexpected results.
Am I doing something wrong?

Scenario 2 is obviously not going to work because the EL was discarded in the original remux process. You're not magically going to get the DV EL back when running it through 1.15.3.

As for scenario 1, I haven't tried it myself, but from the reports of others, it doesn't look like 1.15.3 will recognize mkvs that have BL and EL layers on separate tracks. At this point, you have a few options to get to a compliant DV mkv file (assuming the BL and EL tracks were not altered in any way during the remux process):

1) The easiest way is to probably just drop the mkv into tsmuxer, create a structured bluray iso, mount it and then load it with makemkv. If the mkv contains an atmos track, you will need to extract it and convert it first to thd+ac3 format with eac3to before using it with tsmuxer.

2) The longer and not entirely sure it'll work method is to extract out the BL and EL layers from the mkv, merge it with yusecope's tool into a single BL+EL+RPU track, drop it into an mkv (mkvtoolnix or tsmuxer -> ts and then a 1:1 container conversion with ffmpeg), and finally open it with makemkv and remux.

I'll have to give that a try. Unfortunately, "assuming the BL and EL tracks were not altered in any way during the remux process" also presents an issue for me as my ultimate goal is to compress the BL track to save space and re-merge it with the EL track. I have been able to do that successfully using the dual-layer MP4 method and the re-compressed video does in fact play back in DV. Hopefully that will be possible with whatever single-layer MKV method(s) come from all of this testing and development.

[jlpsvk]

what about devices which supports only dvhe.05 profile? that means only BL+RPU (MEL single track single layer)? makemkv produces dvhe.07.06, which is not supported on many devices.... i can make dvhe.05.06, which works from m2ts, but when running through MakeMKV, it's dvhe.07.00(BL+RPU)... which is weird.

[ghostshadow]

I followed the method given on post 1.
I wanted to open the final mkv created by MakeMkv 1.15.3 with tsmuxer to extract the tracks for checking.
When I import the mkv into tsmuxer it tells me: 'Track 1 was not recognized and was ignored for the file' final.mkv '
Is this normal?

[whiplash1]

I followed the method given on post 1.
I wanted to open the final mkv created by MakeMkv 1.15.3 with tsmuxer to extract the tracks for checking.
When I import the mkv into tsmuxer it tells me: 'Track 1 was not recognized and was ignored for the file' final.mkv '
Is this normal?

That's probably the Atmos track getting rejected by tsmuxer.

[ghostshadow]

I followed the method given on post 1.
I wanted to open the final mkv created by MakeMkv 1.15.3 with tsmuxer to extract the tracks for checking.
When I import the mkv into tsmuxer it tells me: 'Track 1 was not recognized and was ignored for the file' final.mkv '
Is this normal?

That's probably the Atmos track getting rejected by tsmuxer.

Exactly what a jerk I am. Thank you very much I had completely forgotten the sound tracks I was obsessed with the video lol.
Impeccable, I receive my Zidoo z9x on Thursday I could test the mkv on it

[whiplash1]

I followed the method given on post 1.
I wanted to open the final mkv created by MakeMkv 1.15.3 with tsmuxer to extract the tracks for checking.
When I import the mkv into tsmuxer it tells me: 'Track 1 was not recognized and was ignored for the file' final.mkv '
Is this normal?

That's probably the Atmos track getting rejected by tsmuxer.

Exactly what a jerk I am. Thank you very much I had completely forgotten the sound tracks I was obsessed with the video lol.
Impeccable, I receive my Zidoo z9x on Thursday I could test the mkv on it

Cheers

[ray_007]

Hi, Does that also mean I can just throw in a .m2ts DV file into Makemv and it will then produce a DV capable MKV? If so then would I be able to put the resulting file in mkvtoolnix to add/remove Subs and Audio stream while retaining the DV info?

[ray_007]

Hi, Does that also mean I can just throw in a .m2ts DV file into Makemv and it will then produce a DV capable MKV? If so then would I be able to put the resulting file in mkvtoolnix to add/remove Subs and Audio stream while retaining the DV info?

Never mind, tried and didnt work. Going to try it with my current MP4 DV's. Will the conversion effect the quality of the video?
Thanks

[shawnc22]

Hi, Does that also mean I can just throw in a .m2ts DV file into Makemv and it will then produce a DV capable MKV? If so then would I be able to put the resulting file in mkvtoolnix to add/remove Subs and Audio stream while retaining the DV info?

Never mind, tried and didnt work. Going to try it with my current MP4 DV's. Will the conversion effect the quality of the video? Also I am not very good with command lines, so can anyone explain what exactly do i have to type to convert my current MP4 to MKV using ffmpeg?
Thanks

You can use the m2ts DV file, but you will need to do a straight container conversion to mkv before opening it with makemkv. The ffmpeg command to do so is in the first post of this thread. After creating the new mkv file with 1.15.3, you can process it with mkvtoolsnix; the latest version should retain all the DV metadata.