Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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userr
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:35 pm
Tomas wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:59 pm
userr wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:01 pm
Also, before i order one, can the Zidoo z9x play the following?:

- Profile7 DualLayer .ts .mp4 or .mkv?
- Profile 4/6/7 SingleLayer (made with bl_el_rpu_builder or ripped with latest mkv) .ts mp4 or .mkv?
While I was releasing everything on Zidoo z9x it played for me. No problem to try.
It wont play Profile 7 Dual layer in Dolby Vision, only HDR10.
Do you have output set to VS10 or LLDV?
Ok, but all the single layer files MEL+FEL plays correctly?
yusesope
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Tomas wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I did everything according to the FEE procedure at MEL. The resulting film according to BD info is still FEE. I can ask where I made a mistake.
If you followed all the steps correctly, don't worry about what BDInfo says.
My files are special ... they are magical!

ghostshadow wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:24 am
Image
I've updated the link

ghostshadow wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:28 am
I thank you for your answers and your advice.
Someone on another forum posted this to me :
...............................................................................................
The video track is therefore encoded in x265. What do you think ?
A profile 8 file with EL?
A file with BL encoded and with RPUs that become completely random?

This file is a quantum file: it is so wrong it can become correct.

But you know what? This file will still trigger DV on your TV!
And we will all live happily ever after!

For the last time: my advice does not change.
You are free to ignore it!
ghostshadow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yusesope wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:42 am

ghostshadow wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:28 am
I thank you for your answers and your advice.
Someone on another forum posted this to me :
...............................................................................................
The video track is therefore encoded in x265. What do you think ?
A profile 8 file with EL?
A file with BL encoded and with RPUs that become completely random?

This file is a quantum file: it is so wrong it can become correct.

But you know what? This file will still trigger DV on your TV!
And we will all live happily ever after!

For the last time: my advice does not change.
You are free to ignore it!
No worries, I don't change. It was just to show you because this person tells me that he can encode dolby vision uhd in x265, I told him that it is not possible and he posted me this mediainfo telling me that he worked very well. That's why I submitted it to you.
Indeed from what I understand in what you said, the dolby vision logo is displayed, the dolby vision is activated but the metadata is completely wrong. In fact the television either displays completely false colors or it has to fall back on the HDR10 static metadata.
This is the conclusion I draw from it.
Anyway, thank you for your great job, and for your patience.
cordially
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yusesope wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:42 am
Tomas wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I did everything according to the FEE procedure at MEL. The resulting film according to BD info is still FEE. I can ask where I made a mistake.
If you followed all the steps correctly, don't worry about what BDInfo says.
My files are special ... they are magical!




You were right, everything works as it should. Thank you very much
Tomas
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yusesope wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:42 am
Tomas wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I did everything according to the FEE procedure at MEL. The resulting film according to BD info is still FEE. I can ask where I made a mistake.
If you followed all the steps correctly, don't worry about what BDInfo says.
My files are special ... they are magical!



You were right, everything works as it should. Thank you very much
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The mkv of Doctor Sleep an The Shining (MEL original) do not play in firestick 4k, sound and black screen. Anyone with the same problem?
Last edited by ragico on Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yusesope wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:09 pm
mike admin wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:13 pm
This is FEL file, not MEL. The 1.15.3 recognizes it as such :)
I'm sorry mike but my only neuron is telling me it's a MEL!
I'm happy to be proven wrong!
Ok, I stand corrected - this is not FEL, but I don't know how to call this stream! I was under impression that disable_resid flag means "disable residue" which means "disable EL". I was under impression that this flag is only present on single-layer streams. If I am right, then this is not a MEL or FEL - this is "DEL" - "discard fake EL". Where did this source media came from?
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Excuse a newbie question! Do I understand correctly that the instruction in post 176 are to create the DV video file only. This would then need to be muxed with an audio track? If so what method should be used? Thanks
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Where can I get BDInfo 0.7.5.6? DVDFab claims it is a FREE utility, but it is nowhere to be seen...
ghostshadow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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blenky wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:32 am
Excuse a newbie question! Do I understand correctly that the instruction in post 176 are to create the DV video file only. This would then need to be muxed with an audio track? If so what method should be used? Thanks
Hello, you can use TsMuxer
yusesope
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mike admin wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:58 pm
I was under impression that this flag is only present on single-layer streams.
I agree with you!
The problem is that this stream is present inside a UHD-BD (Spears & Munsil) and it is definitely not a FEL stream.
It only remains to recognize it as MEL (el_spatial_resampling_filter_flag is still true).
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Another weekend is about to begin so you have a little time to try "the things" I write :lol: :lol: :lol: !
This time it's up to profile 8.1!
I have updated the POST we refer to during this testing phase.
Find all the instructions there.

This update "fixes" what was previously called "-mode 2".

The new lines of code should allow you to convert a UHD-BD (both MEL and FEL) in a file Single Track Single Layer profile 8.1 (STSL dvhe.08.0x, BL + RPU, HDR10 compatible).

All devices, especially TVs with proprietary OS, capable of playing profile 8 files (and which have so far encountered problems with DV) could benefit from this update.

Before starting, to find out if your device is able to correctly reproduce profile 8, use the test files that Dolby provides on THIS page

Happy testing!
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yusesope wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:52 pm
The problem is that this stream is present inside a UHD-BD (Spears & Munsil) and it is definitely not a FEL stream.
It only remains to recognize it as MEL (el_spatial_resampling_filter_flag is still true).
Interesting. What happens if we just discard the EL layer in this case? Do you think it is safe? I wonder if it is actually a profile 8 stream at all.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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ghostshadow wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:55 am
blenky wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:32 am
Excuse a newbie question! Do I understand correctly that the instruction in post 176 are to create the DV video file only. This would then need to be muxed with an audio track? If so what method should be used? Thanks
Hello, you can use TsMuxer
I'm testing this on my Zidoo z9X with the UHD of 1917. If I create the file as per instructions using Mp4muxer (by using Tsmuxer it only plays in HDR10) the resultant video file plays in DV. However if I then use tsmuxer to add that file and the audio stream from 1917 the output only plays in HDR10.

What am doing wrong?

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : D:\Newsbin\dv\1917_mp4.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 71.8 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 86.4 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate                                 : 82.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.415
Stream size                              : 68.6 GiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 168 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 58 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 158 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -2 s 836 ms
Stream size                              : 381 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Text
ID                                       : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Language                                 : English

ghostshadow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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essaye de faire un iso avec TsMuxer et apres avec MakeMKV 1.15.3 tu fais un mkv et tu test sur ton zidoo z9x

try to do an iso with TsMuxer and after with MakeMKV 1.15.3 you do an mkv and you test on your zidoo z9x
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