with iso, bdmv folders? uncompressed/muxed without tsmuxer/mp4 or ts?RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:51 pmmmm, renewed x700 on amazon is only 157USD and can do DV + HD audio just fine. Plus no cinavia...kazuma wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:43 pm i'm turned to the M9702. because there gonna not be a better solution that plays DV correct with HD-Audio. i doubt how far DV plays correct with all the muxes in this topic. i mean the colors etc. beside that M9702 (oppo203) is really a beast that does everything like DV, HDR10+, Atmos, DTS:X. I think there not will be a mediaplayer like this. if there is? you pay €600+.
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Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Dual layer TS remux.. I dont care about bluray menu so it's all good for me
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it's not about the menu's, but the thing about ''untouched'' = the safest way without doubts to play DV. but i keep following this thread. it's very interesting what people being capable ofRESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:53 pmDual layer TS remux.. I dont care about bluray menu so it's all good for me![]()
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Safest? Are you suggesting that mp4 or ts remux are not the real deal?kazuma wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:58 pm
it's not about the menu's, but the thing about ''untouched'' = the safest way without doubts to play DV. but i keep following this thread. it's very interesting what people being capable of![]()
I have compared the dual-layer profile 7 remux ( mp4 or TS) with bluray disc and it is identical in every aspect. Just like an MKV remux of any bluray.
Yes, there might be some question about the single layer (rpu + EL) files but definitely not with the dual-layer profile 7 files.
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yeah, with the eye there is no difference. i also say that before in this thread. but i'm not sure if that is enough? what happens on the background in technical way? i think we shall only know with professional tools...RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:25 pmSafest? Are you suggesting that mp4 or ts remux are not the real deal?kazuma wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:58 pm
it's not about the menu's, but the thing about ''untouched'' = the safest way without doubts to play DV. but i keep following this thread. it's very interesting what people being capable of![]()
I have compared the dual-layer profile 7 remux ( mp4 or TS) with bluray disc and it is identical in every aspect. Just like an MKV remux of any bluray.
Yes, there might be some question about the single layer (rpu + EL) files but definitely not with the dual-layer profile 7 files.
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I agree..kazuma wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:49 pm
yeah, with the eye there is no difference. i also say that before in this thread. but i'm not sure if that is enough? what happens on the background in technical way? i think we shall only know with professional tools...
This may not be a professional tool but I think if there was a difference in colors and brightness, my camera would capture it.
see this comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/6043
I did this comparison with many movies and never spotted any difference.
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I appreciate you're work for that.RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:58 pmI agree..kazuma wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:49 pm
yeah, with the eye there is no difference. i also say that before in this thread. but i'm not sure if that is enough? what happens on the background in technical way? i think we shall only know with professional tools...
This may not be a professional tool but I think if there was a difference in colors and brightness, my camera would capture it.
see this comparison: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/6043
I did this comparison with many movies and never spotted any difference.
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Good evening people.
I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to convert (without quality loss) a FEL movie to MEL. I have some ideas about it and this is a first try.
In THIS archive you will find two files: the original file is the FEL one (generated starting from the ISO uploaded HERE by @RESET_9999), the MEL file was obtained by modifying the first.
If you feel like it, try both files. Personally I am interested in the tests carried out on devices that have proved capable of playing MEL files with profile 7 but not FEL files (Fire Stick 4K, some Android TVs, etc ...). With these latest devices the desired result should be:
FEL file -> HDR (or unplayable)
MEL file -> DV.
Please, in your feedback obviously indicate the outcome, the device and the player used (if you can, also use my version of ExoPlayer).
Thank you
I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to convert (without quality loss) a FEL movie to MEL. I have some ideas about it and this is a first try.
In THIS archive you will find two files: the original file is the FEL one (generated starting from the ISO uploaded HERE by @RESET_9999), the MEL file was obtained by modifying the first.
If you feel like it, try both files. Personally I am interested in the tests carried out on devices that have proved capable of playing MEL files with profile 7 but not FEL files (Fire Stick 4K, some Android TVs, etc ...). With these latest devices the desired result should be:
FEL file -> HDR (or unplayable)
MEL file -> DV.
Please, in your feedback obviously indicate the outcome, the device and the player used (if you can, also use my version of ExoPlayer).
Thank you
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thank you yusesope for the great work as always.
I'll check out the files tonight.
I'll check out the files tonight.
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Thanks for your work on this.yusesope wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:11 pmI'm trying to figure out if it is possible to convert (without quality loss) a FEL movie to MEL. I have some ideas about it and this is a first try.
I have an LG C8.
The LG internal player freezes a lot with both FEL and MEL files, for some reason.
On the Fire TV Stick 4K (your ExoPlayer):
FEL file -> DV, black screen.
MEL file -> DV, plays fine.
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Fantastic work yusesope! Here are my observations-yusesope wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:11 pm Good evening people.
I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to convert (without quality loss) a FEL movie to MEL. I have some ideas about it and this is a first try.
In THIS archive you will find two files: the original file is the FEL one (generated starting from the ISO uploaded HERE by @RESET_9999), the MEL file was obtained by modifying the first.
If you feel like it, try both files. Personally I am interested in the tests carried out on devices that have proved capable of playing MEL files with profile 7 but not FEL files (Fire Stick 4K, some Android TVs, etc ...). With these latest devices the desired result should be:
FEL file -> HDR (or unplayable)
MEL file -> DV.
Please, in your feedback obviously indicate the outcome, the device and the player used (if you can, also use my version of ExoPlayer).
Thank you
Both files say unsupported file format in the internal media player.
FEL plays with HDR through Kodi+your latest exoplayer.
MEL plays and triggers DV through Kodi+your lastest exoplayer.
I'm playing these directly on my Android TV. (A cheap Indian brand, VU Cinema TV 50" with Dolby Vision).
Looking forward to a detailed method as I'd love to convert all my FEL titles into this format so I can play them directly on the TV.
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Thanks Master, another prime from you.yusesope wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:11 pm Good evening people.
I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to convert (without quality loss) a FEL movie to MEL. I have some ideas about it and this is a first try.
In THIS archive you will find two files: the original file is the FEL one (generated starting from the ISO uploaded HERE by @RESET_9999), the MEL file was obtained by modifying the first.
If you feel like it, try both files. Personally I am interested in the tests carried out on devices that have proved capable of playing MEL files with profile 7 but not FEL files (Fire Stick 4K, some Android TVs, etc ...). With these latest devices the desired result should be:
FEL file -> HDR (or unplayable)
MEL file -> DV.
Please, in your feedback obviously indicate the outcome, the device and the player used (if you can, also use my version of ExoPlayer).
Thank you
My results:
FIRESTICK TV 4K:
Plex....FEL_ST_DL triggers DV but black screen
MEL_ST_DL triggers and plays DV
Kodi 19.1 Alpha and Exoplayer_DolbyVision_DTS-HD_FFmpeg_4.2_01_08_2020_no_debug....same as Plex
UGOOS AM6 PLUS:
Plex...both files trigger and play DV
Kodi 18.8 Leia and Exoplayer as above both files trigger and play DV
APPLE ATV 4K:
Infuse app: both files play HDR
SHIELD PRO 2019:
Plex...both files trigger and play DV
Kodi 18.8 Leia and Exoplayer as above both files trigger and play DV
All devices directly connected to Panasonic Tv's
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quietvoid wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:58 pm On the Fire TV Stick 4K (your ExoPlayer):
FEL file -> DV, black screen.
MEL file -> DV, plays fine.
whiplash1 wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:27 pm FEL plays with HDR through Kodi+your latest exoplayer.
MEL plays and triggers DV through Kodi+your lastest exoplayer.
I'm playing these directly on my Android TV. (A cheap Indian brand, VU Cinema TV 50" with Dolby Vision).
Thank you for your time!ragico wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:04 pm FIRESTICK TV 4K:
Plex....FEL_ST_DL triggers DV but black screen
MEL_ST_DL triggers and plays DV
Kodi 19.1 Alpha and Exoplayer_DolbyVision_DTS-HD_FFmpeg_4.2_01_08_2020_no_debug....same as Plex
The results are what I was hoping for
The "final test" must be conducted on a full movie and not on a 60sec segment.
I hope cheaper devices don't run out of RAM due to a too large buffer.
We'll see.
There is currently no detailed method, just lines of code that only make sense to me...whiplash1 wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:27 pm Looking forward to a detailed method as I'd love to convert all my FEL titles into this format so I can play them directly on the TV.
In the next days/weeks I will release the 0.0.4 BETA version of my tool (I will update my original post HERE as always) so those interested can do all the tests they want and help me fix any bugs.
In the meantime maybe I'll write some technical posts to start a discussion and see if anyone has any ideas to validate/improve my logic.
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Hi, i probably know the answe to this, but is there a way to reverse the DoVi created mp4?
For example de-mux the mp4 file and make a working MKV out of it?
Thank you.
For example de-mux the mp4 file and make a working MKV out of it?
Thank you.