Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
yes I'm seeing the red artifacts in the background too on that MI clip. Same on the Dr. Sleep sample.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Same in the cloud scene in the Spears and Munsil FEL clip. Red push is still there. However, Disney+ is fixed so that's a win.
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Is there a way to see if Shield triggers the second HEVC stream with dual-layer DV files with the developer menu or command line? I know Shield has some color issues with red and some other weird colors, but want to make sure that it's the right device before investing in another streamer, otherwise, I am quite happy with my Sony X700 ( there were some talks that it's possible that Shield Pro is not even processing the second FEL layer )
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Second stream in dual track file will not play.
As for second stream (layer) merged in single track...
There is no way to tell for sure is FEL active or not. No test patterns exist, no reports in logs.
Only visual observation.
Based on theory visual difference could be in :
a) smoother gradients
b) less compression artefacts in shadows (mostly in red and blue tones)
c) overall cleaner image with less shimmering
Keep in mind - if video has high quality properly encoded HDR base layer than FEL layer improvements are less and less noticeable, neglectable, or almost none. Indeed 2bit more data is here but probably it should be seen on true 12bit panel to spot something.
So If FEL discarded than image in HDR should be identical to DV Base layer plus some difference in contrast because of tonemapping.
I spend hours and hours to find any difference between HDR and DV and Shield . Heck, I even bought X700 solely for FEL-noFEL comparison purpose
One particular scene with oblivious difference I've found is Valerian 00:52:40 mark - better blue gradients
Pictures - https://slow.pics/c/yhIjWUas
I don't not say FEL is fully utilized and don't say FEL discarded. But after hours of testing I don't really care about FEL anymore until proper test patterns appear.
Red push and blocking is real problem for now
Last edited by lexyz on Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Is it possible to play .mp4/.ts profile 7 dual layer, dual track files on x700? I guess .mkv doesnt work cause its so new(?) and maybe never will but .mp4/.ts ? with atmos?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
yes, the x700 can play profile 7 dual-layer with atmos. plus the colors are accurate and no flickers.
mp4 dual layer fel or mel + LPCM 7.1 audio works but no atmos no subtitle
ts dual layer fel or mel + Atmos + subtitles works
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Only from USB or from network too ?
It has 100Mit only though but maybe you could use an USB3 to Gbit LAN adapter.
It has 100Mit only though but maybe you could use an USB3 to Gbit LAN adapter.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
network too. i dont know if an usb ethernet adaptor would work. please let us know if you try.
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Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
wow .... Leon the professional German Bluray disc is Dolby vision and the layer bitrate is 14.2/mb/s ... I think this is the largest FEL ever.
Disc Size: 79,591,397,429 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00102.MPLS
Length: 2:12:46.708
Size: 79,294,709,760 bytes
Total Bitrate: 79.63 Mbps
(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 50956 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 14208 kbps (21.80%) 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio German 4090 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4090 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4653 kbps 7.1+13 objects / 48 kHz / 4013 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
DTS Audio Undetermined 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Disc Size: 79,591,397,429 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00102.MPLS
Length: 2:12:46.708
Size: 79,294,709,760 bytes
Total Bitrate: 79.63 Mbps
(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 50956 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 14208 kbps (21.80%) 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio German 4090 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4090 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4653 kbps 7.1+13 objects / 48 kHz / 4013 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
DTS Audio Undetermined 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Last edited by RESET_9999 on Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
the difference in picture quality is significant if you ask melexyz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:35 pmShield owners check bright clipping after 8.2
X700 vs Shield
https://slow.pics/c/I0k7fFq4
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Problems with shield pro 2019. I was initially concentrated on the infamous red push problem. Today I saw other movies and;
The Matrix initial scenes look light blue instead of beautiflul green.
This happens both with the kodi/exoplayer/mkv and with plex ts profile 4 and 5.
Very bad,
The Matrix initial scenes look light blue instead of beautiflul green.
This happens both with the kodi/exoplayer/mkv and with plex ts profile 4 and 5.
Very bad,
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
What TV do you have? Panasonic GZ2000 oled right?ragico wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:35 pmProblems with shield pro 2019. I was initially concentrated on the infamous red push problem. Today I saw other movies and;
The Matrix initial scenes look light blue instead of beautiflul green.
This happens both with the kodi/exoplayer/mkv and with plex ts profile 4 and 5.
Very bad,
So such issue not only Sony-related
I suggest you to fill report for nVidia - more data, more chances for quicker fix.
Settings->Device Preferences->About->Send feedback to Nvidia
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700
Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
The largest FEL i ever see is Universal Soldier.
Universal soldier DV layer have a higher bitrate (16 Mbps) for a total bitrate of the movie equal to 100 Mbps.
Universal soldier DV layer have a higher bitrate (16 Mbps) for a total bitrate of the movie equal to 100 Mbps.
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DISC INFO:
Disc Title: Universal.Soldier.1992.MULTI.COMPLETE.UHD.BLURAY-COASTER
Disc Size: 88,151,888,864 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.6 (compatible layout created by DVDFab 11.0.5.7)
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00011.MPLS
Length: 1:43:20.416 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 77,688,723,456 bytes
Total Bitrate: 100.24 Mbps
(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 64000 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 16036 kbps (20.04%) 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
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DTS-HD Master Audio German 3892 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3892 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 4287 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4287 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio French 3524 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3524 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1508 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1508 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1616 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1616 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics German 18.982 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 26.278 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 14.994 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 25.921 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 25.97 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 19.233 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.11 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0.102 kbps