Wall•E 3 Disc Blu Ray & Make MKV 1.6.0

[Skipper Jason]

Hello fellow users,

I've been trying to combat this issue for sometime on this particular blu ray and it seems to be spread across some other software programs too (from what i have read). I've been able to successfully extract an mkv file from this particular blu ray, but it starts in the most awkward spot - the main titles instead of the default pixar lamp logo like every other disney blu ray i've extracted. Does anyone know if this is a mastering error caused by bad cells or find a way around this annoyance. I'm using a fully licensed version of the newest build. My blu ray drive is a Lacie d2 external drive.

[mike admin]

Please post debug log per http://www.makemkv.com/faq/item/8/catid/6

[Skipper Jason]

Thanks Mike. I've sent off the email with the items requested.

[Skipper Jason]

Debug Log.

Debug log started at Mon Sep 27 01:49:59 2010 , written by MakeMKV v1.6.0 darwin(x86-release)
Using 65664KB for read cache.
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 6045696 at Grc*]`-=demMf/7NmbsU#wo:213130007
001005:0000 MakeMKV v1.6.0 darwin(x86-release) started
001004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as /Users/Jason/MakeMKV_log.txt
002010:0000 Optical drive "DVD+R-DL OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H 3AHB" opened in OS access mode.
002010:0000 Optical drive "BD-RE PIONEER BD-RW BDR-205 1.02" opened in OS access mode.
003007:0000 Using direct disc access mode
DISCID=33BFA5C4B9B855ECED9815058DE77F7EDB5EA12C
003307:0000 File 00089.mpls was added as title #0
003307:0000 File 00037.mpls was added as title #1
003307:0000 File 00068.mpls was added as title #2
003307:0000 File 00065.mpls was added as title #3
003309:0000 Title 00081.mpls is equal to title 00089.mpls and was skipped
003309:0000 Title 00082.mpls is equal to title 00089.mpls and was skipped
003307:0000 File 01000.mpls was added as title #4
003025:0000 Title #00050.mpls has length of 112 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003309:0000 Title 00095.mpls is equal to title 00089.mpls and was skipped
003309:0000 Title 00039.mpls is equal to title 00065.mpls and was skipped
003309:0000 Title 00038.mpls is equal to title 00065.mpls and was skipped
003025:0000 Title #00052.m2ts has length of 53 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00053.m2ts has length of 24 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00067.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00071.m2ts has length of 46 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003307:0000 File 20000.m2ts was added as title #5
003025:0000 Title #20004.m2ts has length of 16 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20015.m2ts has length of 32 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20006.m2ts has length of 7 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20007.m2ts has length of 66 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20008.m2ts has length of 55 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20009.m2ts has length of 87 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20010.m2ts has length of 7 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20011.m2ts has length of 39 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20012.m2ts has length of 20 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003307:0000 File 20013.m2ts was added as title #6
003025:0000 Title #20014.m2ts has length of 60 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #20001.m2ts has length of 58 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003307:0000 File 50109.m2ts was added as title #7
003307:0000 File 00016.m2ts was added as title #8
003307:0000 File 00017.m2ts was added as title #9
003307:0000 File 20003.m2ts was added as title #10
003025:0000 Title #50002.m2ts has length of 70 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #50003.m2ts has length of 45 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #50004.m2ts has length of 91 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #50005.m2ts has length of 45 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #35000.m2ts has length of 40 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #35001.m2ts has length of 72 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00110.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00111.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00112.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00113.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00114.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00115.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #00131.m2ts has length of 0 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
003025:0000 Title #50010.m2ts has length of 74 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
005011:0000 Operation successfully completed
005014:0000 Saving 1 titles into directory /Users/Jason/Desktop
002008:0020 Program reads data faster than it can write to disk, consider upgrading your hard drive if you see many of these messages.
002008:0020 Program reads data faster than it can write to disk, consider upgrading your hard drive if you see many of these messages.
002008:0020 Program reads data faster than it can write to disk, consider upgrading your hard drive if you see many of these messages.
002008:0020 Program reads data faster than it can write to disk, consider upgrading your hard drive if you see many of these messages.
004001:0000 Forced subtitles track #6 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
004001:0000 Forced subtitles track #8 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
004001:0000 Forced subtitles track #10 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
005005:0080 1 titles saved
005036:0104 Copy complete. 1 titles saved.
Application exited at Mon Sep 27 02:28:30 2010

[setarip_old]

@SkipperJason

Hi!

Do you get the same playback result if you use (ONLY) MakeMKV to do a full disc backup instead?

Do you get the same result if you use the full disc backup you just made as your source for MakeMKV to create an .MKV?

[fritzdis]

I'm seeing the same issue (using 1.6.2). This disc has 2 commentaries that utilize additional video streams, but I don't know if that's the problem. Using BDInfo, I see 4 playlists of interest:

00081.mpls - contains 00071.m2ts (Disney and Pixar logos) + 20000.m2ts
This seems to be the main movie playlist - both additional video tracks are hidden (see BDInfo.png in attached zip).

00082.mpls - contains 00071.m2ts + 20000.m2ts
This is the "Cine-Explore" director commentary playlist - one of the additional video tracks is unhidden.

00089.mpls - only contains 20000.m2ts
Not sure what this is, but it's what gets chosen by MakeMKV.

00095.mpls - contains 20001.m2ts (silhouettes of people sitting down to watch the movie as the Disney and Pixar logos play) + 20000.m2ts
This is the "Geek Track" playlist - the other additional video track is unhidden.

For some reason, from the original disc, MakeMKV sees 00081.mpls, 00082.mpls, and 00095.mpls as identical to 00089.mpls and skips them (see MakeMKV_log1.txt in attached zip). After doing a full backup using only MakeMKV, when I attempt to use MakeMKV on that backup, the result is essentially the same (the playlists seem to be processed in a different order, but MakeMKV eventually skips 00081.mpls, 00082.mpls, and 00095.mpls - see MakeMKV_log2.txt in attached zip).

[fritzdis]

Bump.

[mike admin]

This is the way this particular disc is mastered. The Disney "castle" logo and main movie are encoded separately and couldn't be combined in a single MKV file. That's why MakeMKV selects only the main movie.

[drukepple]

I just picked up the latest edition of this release (2-disc, special features on disc 2, along with a digital copy, the one with the very yellow cover and just a "head shot" of Wall•E, I believe it was released 2017). It seems some of the playlists might have changed.

These are the English versions of the movie I detected:

• 00081.mpls: Main movie
• 00115.mpls: Director's Commentary (the subtitle track is the picture-in-picture storyboards and concept art). I believe this is what is called "Cine-Explore" on the disc.
• 00116.mpls: Crew Commentary, I think referred to as the "Geek Track", which starts with an additional 12 seconds of an MST3K-style silhouette of the commentators entering a theater, but then the view pushes in and we never see them again. The subtitles are the commentary.

There are 6 more, 3 each for French and Spanish on-screen text.

• 00082.mpls: French, movie
• 00106.mpls: French, cine-explore
• 00109.mpls: French, geek track
• 00083.mpls: Spanish, movie
• 00118.mpls: Spanish, cine-explore
• 00119.mpls: Spanish, geek track

If anyone is like me and would like to combine both commentaries and all subtitles into one movie, rather than having three versions of Wall•E taking up space, I thought I'd share these mkvmerge commands I ran to combine them. Because your filenames would differ from mine, replace {main} and such with the name of your file.

• {main} = playlist 00081.mpls
• {comm1} = playlist 00115.mpls
• {comm2} = playlist 00116.mpls

Code: Select all

# Trim the beginning off the "Geek Track" so that it's the same length and the audio lines up.
mkvmerge -o {comm2}.split.mkv --split parts:00:00:12.649- {comm2}.mkv
# Pull the audio and subtitles tracks from the commentary MKVs and combine them with the main one.
mkvmerge -o Wall.E.mkv -S {main}.mkv -D -S {comm1}.mkv -D -S {comm2}.split.mkv -D -A {main}.mkv -D -A {comm1}.mkv -D -A {comm2}.split.mkv
# Note that this groups audio tracks together and subtitle tracks together. This could be written more simply for the less obsessive, such as this (untested):
# mkvmerge -o Wall.E.mkv {main}.mkv -D {comm1}.mkv -D {comm2}.split.mkv

Note that this will gobble lots of hard drive during the process, as you'll need to rip the three titles from the Blu-ray, then produce a second version of the Geek Track to trim off that dumb beginning, and then finally produce the combined MKV. This will be upwards of 100 GB. But once you have "Wall.E.mkv" you can delete all of the other files.

[swampdaddy]

Hi @drukepple,

When I add the Crew Commentary (from 116.mpls) to the proper master MKV (81.mpls), the audio is not in sync with the video. The audio is delayed by about 14 seconds since the video that the audio track came from has a small extra segment (theater crowd in silhouette) and the master MKV does not have this. So, how can I get the alignment right for this file?

Yes, I see your suggestion above but I'm not sure how you are trimming this audio file. I used the GUI version on the Mac to combine the two commentaries but I have the alignment issue as mentioned above.

[BlenderRookie]

I just picked up the latest edition of this release (2-disc, special features on disc 2, along with a digital copy, the one with the very yellow cover and just a "head shot" of Wall•E, I believe it was released 2017). It seems some of the playlists might have changed.

These are the English versions of the movie I detected:

• 00081.mpls: Main movie
• 00115.mpls: Director's Commentary (the subtitle track is the picture-in-picture storyboards and concept art). I believe this is what is called "Cine-Explore" on the disc.
• 00116.mpls: Crew Commentary, I think referred to as the "Geek Track", which starts with an additional 12 seconds of an MST3K-style silhouette of the commentators entering a theater, but then the view pushes in and we never see them again. The subtitles are the commentary.

I can confirm these. I have the same results on my disc I just purchased.

[markclane@gmail.com]

Agree with drukepple and BlenderRookie, this version of the BD is the only one I could rip with MakeMKV and 00081 is the correct title.

Hint: The BD poster cover is yellow and the "E" on the disk has a red background...not white.