Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

[djbuddha]

Hello guys.
I'm reading this topic for a while, but never posted before.
I'm sorry if my english is not perfect, it's not my native tongue.

I read about color issues with Nvidia Shield pro and Dolby Vision.
I just received my new TV with DV support (Philips OLED934) so I decided to conduct some test with DV.

So here are my results :

Philips O934 vs Nvidia Shield Pro : https://slow.pics/c/NVssdh3m (12 Pictures)
Xbox One X vs Nvidia Shield Pro : https://slow.pics/c/UcMwDqeF (13 Pictures)

I'm not a professional but I don't see much difference between Shield and TV or Xbox, even in Magenta/Red colors that seems to be problematic.
Feel free to discuss about it, and ask me some questions

That's probably because you are getting LLDV (12bit 422 DV).
the color issue is with the 8bit RGB DV signal.

I have a friend with a Vertex that can force LLDV and he confirmed that he's not seeing the issue when forcing LLDV.

Using my Vertex 2, I don't see the issue either when I force LLDV.

[RESET_9999]

Using my Vertex 2, I don't see the issue either when I force LLDV.

I wish my first-gen Vertex could do that.

[Alldu]

Hi guys,

So I'm trying to get Dolby Vision work with ATV4K via my router. As I understand, you need one layer with profile 5 DV for it to be picked up by ATV4K. So I made a DV mkv and then I tried both tSMuxers to create .ts, but still Infuse doesn't see the DV, only HDR. Which makes me think both of the tSMuxers (nightly and the earlier one, edited) somehow do not create profile 5, right? So is there a way to make DV profile 5 using this method, or profile 5 can only be created in mp4? Many thanks!

[shawnc22]

Hi guys,

So I'm trying to get Dolby Vision work with ATV4K via my router. As I understand, you need one layer with profile 5 DV for it to be picked up by ATV4K. So I made a DV mkv and then I tried both tSMuxers to create .ts, but still Infuse doesn't see the DV, only HDR. Which makes me think both of the tSMuxers (nightly and the earlier one, edited) somehow do not create profile 5, right? So is there a way to make DV profile 5 using this method, or profile 5 can only be created in mp4? Many thanks!

You can't with the DV mkv. You'd need to use yusecope's tool in mode 2 to discard the EL and then mux it with an edited tsmuxer to get profile 5.

[Alldu]

Hi guys,

So I'm trying to get Dolby Vision work with ATV4K via my router. As I understand, you need one layer with profile 5 DV for it to be picked up by ATV4K. So I made a DV mkv and then I tried both tSMuxers to create .ts, but still Infuse doesn't see the DV, only HDR. Which makes me think both of the tSMuxers (nightly and the earlier one, edited) somehow do not create profile 5, right? So is there a way to make DV profile 5 using this method, or profile 5 can only be created in mp4? Many thanks!

You can't with the DV mkv. You'd need to use yusecope's tool in mode 2 to discard the EL and then mux it with an edited tsmuxer to get profile 5.

I see. Would you be so kind to point me the direction where I can get that tool?

[shawnc22]

Hi guys,

So I'm trying to get Dolby Vision work with ATV4K via my router. As I understand, you need one layer with profile 5 DV for it to be picked up by ATV4K. So I made a DV mkv and then I tried both tSMuxers to create .ts, but still Infuse doesn't see the DV, only HDR. Which makes me think both of the tSMuxers (nightly and the earlier one, edited) somehow do not create profile 5, right? So is there a way to make DV profile 5 using this method, or profile 5 can only be created in mp4? Many thanks!

You can't with the DV mkv. You'd need to use yusecope's tool in mode 2 to discard the EL and then mux it with an edited tsmuxer to get profile 5.

I see. Would you be so kind to point me the direction where I can get that tool?

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[Chuck_IV]

Thanks - and I'm assuming this thread will get updated once that standard is released.

Yep.

Just want to make sure I accurately summarize..

In order to get both Dolby Vision and Atmos via Plex you need

1)Nvidia Shield

2) The file:
a) MakeMKV of the BDMV
b) Extract Atmos audio via ea3to
c) Combine .mkv and extracted audio via TSmuxer to create a .ts
d) Use Plex via Shield to play .ts which will have both Dolby Vision + Atmos

Is this correct?

Yep. But once the standard is finalized Plex should (hopefully) be one of the first to update their player, in which case you would just do a) then d) but it will be an mkv as ts will no longer be needed.

Also, is there no non-Shield way to get both? I'm assuming LG via USB wouldn't work?

Yep. LG can't passthrough lossless thd-atmos. An x700 or ATV 4K can work though. And probably the Ugoos AM6 Plus, too.

So I tried ChrisAndy's method and I don't think I am getting DV. My setup...

Sony X950H
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019
Plex server from a QNAP TS-451Be

My steps...
1. Re-ripped John Wick 3 using Makemkv 1.15.1 to an MKV
2. Used Makemkv to create an unprotected copy of the disk onto a harddrive
3. Using tsmuxer 2.6.12...
a. Dragged the JW3 MKV file to the txmuxer input section
b. Dragged the 00800.mpls file from the copy of the Bluray to the txmuxer input section
c. Selected the HEVC movie from the MKV and selected the TRUE-HD track from the 00800.mlps file and ran txmuxer, which spit out a JW3,ts file.
d. copied it to my Plex library and update the library on the Plex server

At this point I ran Plex on the Nvidia Shield and made sure to specifically select the .ts version. When I play it, I do get Dolby Atmos, HOWEVER my Sony TV shows no hint that it is playing a Dolby Vision movie as it did not switch to Dolby Vision Light like it does for streaming content. Should I expect my Sony TV to switch to a DV profile or is this something that is lost via the muxing?

As a note, I did not change any setting in txmuxer.

Thanks.

[chrisandy]

Thanks - and I'm assuming this thread will get updated once that standard is released.

Yep.

Just want to make sure I accurately summarize..

In order to get both Dolby Vision and Atmos via Plex you need

1)Nvidia Shield

2) The file:
a) MakeMKV of the BDMV
b) Extract Atmos audio via ea3to
c) Combine .mkv and extracted audio via TSmuxer to create a .ts
d) Use Plex via Shield to play .ts which will have both Dolby Vision + Atmos

Is this correct?

Yep. But once the standard is finalized Plex should (hopefully) be one of the first to update their player, in which case you would just do a) then d) but it will be an mkv as ts will no longer be needed.

Also, is there no non-Shield way to get both? I'm assuming LG via USB wouldn't work?

Yep. LG can't passthrough lossless thd-atmos. An x700 or ATV 4K can work though. And probably the Ugoos AM6 Plus, too.

So I tried ChrisAndy's method and I don't think I am getting DV. My setup...

Sony X950H
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019
Plex server from a QNAP TS-451Be

My steps...
1. Re-ripped John Wick 3 using Makemkv 1.15.1 to an MKV
2. Used Makemkv to create an unprotected copy of the disk onto a harddrive
3. Using tsmuxer 2.6.12...
a. Dragged the JW3 MKV file to the txmuxer input section
b. Dragged the 00800.mpls file from the copy of the Bluray to the txmuxer input section
c. Selected the HEVC movie from the MKV and selected the TRUE-HD track from the 00800.mlps file and ran txmuxer, which spit out a JW3,ts file.
d. copied it to my Plex library and update the library on the Plex server

At this point I ran Plex on the Nvidia Shield and made sure to specifically select the .ts version. When I play it, I do get Dolby Atmos, HOWEVER my Sony TV shows no hint that it is playing a Dolby Vision movie as it did not switch to Dolby Vision Light like it does for streaming content. Should I expect my Sony TV to switch to a DV profile or is this something that is lost via the muxing?

As a note, I did not change any setting in txmuxer.

Thanks.

Sorry, misread your original message.

Can you share the Mediainfo of the .ts file you created?

A screenshot of TSMuxer (before you mux) would help too.

[Chuck_IV]

Yep.

Yep. But once the standard is finalized Plex should (hopefully) be one of the first to update their player, in which case you would just do a) then d) but it will be an mkv as ts will no longer be needed.

Yep. LG can't passthrough lossless thd-atmos. An x700 or ATV 4K can work though. And probably the Ugoos AM6 Plus, too.

So I tried ChrisAndy's method and I don't think I am getting DV. My setup...

Sony X950H
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019
Plex server from a QNAP TS-451Be

My steps...
1. Re-ripped John Wick 3 using Makemkv 1.15.1 to an MKV
2. Used Makemkv to create an unprotected copy of the disk onto a harddrive
3. Using tsmuxer 2.6.12...
a. Dragged the JW3 MKV file to the txmuxer input section
b. Dragged the 00800.mpls file from the copy of the Bluray to the txmuxer input section
c. Selected the HEVC movie from the MKV and selected the TRUE-HD track from the 00800.mlps file and ran txmuxer, which spit out a JW3,ts file.
d. copied it to my Plex library and update the library on the Plex server

At this point I ran Plex on the Nvidia Shield and made sure to specifically select the .ts version. When I play it, I do get Dolby Atmos, HOWEVER my Sony TV shows no hint that it is playing a Dolby Vision movie as it did not switch to Dolby Vision Light like it does for streaming content. Should I expect my Sony TV to switch to a DV profile or is this something that is lost via the muxing?

As a note, I did not change any setting in txmuxer.

Thanks.

I think your approach is a little redundant. I can't speak to steps 1 and 2, but once you have a .mkv you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos file then you would throw in the .mkv and the thd+ac3 (atmos) file into TSMuxer. This should produce a .ts with DV.

Can you share the Mediainfo of the .ts file you created?

I was just looking at the mediainfo of the MKV I ripped a couple days ago and I think this is the issue. for HDR format, I see "SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible". There is no mention of Dolby Vision.

Is there something I am missing in MakeMKV that isn't retaining the DV part(I am on 1.15.1)? Here are my two mediainfos...

MKV ripped via MakeMKV 1.15.1(only included video portion to keep it small)...

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General
Unique ID                                : 291245564851937371381727990531637701164 (0xDB1BDAFEE42A1A0F08758ABA50D0EA2C)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.4K.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 68.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 75.4 Mb/s
Movie name                               : John Wick 3: Parabellum
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-29 02:48:11
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.15.1 (1.3.5/1.4.7) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.DV.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 72.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 73.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.371
Stream size                              : 67.4 GiB (93%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2

[chrisandy]

So I tried ChrisAndy's method and I don't think I am getting DV. My setup...

Sony X950H
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019
Plex server from a QNAP TS-451Be

My steps...
1. Re-ripped John Wick 3 using Makemkv 1.15.1 to an MKV
2. Used Makemkv to create an unprotected copy of the disk onto a harddrive
3. Using tsmuxer 2.6.12...
a. Dragged the JW3 MKV file to the txmuxer input section
b. Dragged the 00800.mpls file from the copy of the Bluray to the txmuxer input section
c. Selected the HEVC movie from the MKV and selected the TRUE-HD track from the 00800.mlps file and ran txmuxer, which spit out a JW3,ts file.
d. copied it to my Plex library and update the library on the Plex server

At this point I ran Plex on the Nvidia Shield and made sure to specifically select the .ts version. When I play it, I do get Dolby Atmos, HOWEVER my Sony TV shows no hint that it is playing a Dolby Vision movie as it did not switch to Dolby Vision Light like it does for streaming content. Should I expect my Sony TV to switch to a DV profile or is this something that is lost via the muxing?

As a note, I did not change any setting in txmuxer.

Thanks.

I think your approach is a little redundant. I can't speak to steps 1 and 2, but once you have a .mkv you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos file then you would throw in the .mkv and the thd+ac3 (atmos) file into TSMuxer. This should produce a .ts with DV.

Can you share the Mediainfo of the .ts file you created?

I was just looking at the mediainfo of the MKV I ripped a couple days ago and I think this is the issue. for HDR format, I see "SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible". There is no mention of Dolby Vision.

Is there something I am missing in MakeMKV that isn't retaining the DV part(I am on 1.15.1)? Here are my two mediainfos...

MKV ripped via MakeMKV 1.15.1(only included video portion to keep it small)...

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General
Unique ID                                : 291245564851937371381727990531637701164 (0xDB1BDAFEE42A1A0F08758ABA50D0EA2C)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.4K.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 68.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 75.4 Mb/s
Movie name                               : John Wick 3: Parabellum
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-29 02:48:11
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.15.1 (1.3.5/1.4.7) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.DV.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 72.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 73.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.371
Stream size                              : 67.4 GiB (93%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2

I would try creating an MKV from the .index file of the BDMV folder (or you can use the .mpls file I guess).

Once you have that, you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos audio, then throw the thd+ac3 (Atmos file) and the MKV into TSMuxer, then mux.

Check this out:

For those that are looking to make this work in the easiest way possible:

1) Rip to MKV with MakeMKV
2) eac3to titlename.mkv 2: titlename.thd+ac3
Note: titlename should be replaced with the actual name of the MKV
3) Add the MKV and the thd+ac3 track to TSMuxer
4) Remux to TS

[Chuck_IV]

I think your approach is a little redundant. I can't speak to steps 1 and 2, but once you have a .mkv you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos file then you would throw in the .mkv and the thd+ac3 (atmos) file into TSMuxer. This should produce a .ts with DV.

Can you share the Mediainfo of the .ts file you created?

I was just looking at the mediainfo of the MKV I ripped a couple days ago and I think this is the issue. for HDR format, I see "SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible". There is no mention of Dolby Vision.

Is there something I am missing in MakeMKV that isn't retaining the DV part(I am on 1.15.1)? Here are my two mediainfos...

MKV ripped via MakeMKV 1.15.1(only included video portion to keep it small)...

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General
Unique ID                                : 291245564851937371381727990531637701164 (0xDB1BDAFEE42A1A0F08758ABA50D0EA2C)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.4K.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 68.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 75.4 Mb/s
Movie name                               : John Wick 3: Parabellum
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-29 02:48:11
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.15.1 (1.3.5/1.4.7) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.DV.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 72.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 73.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.371
Stream size                              : 67.4 GiB (93%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2

I would try creating an MKV from the .index file of the BDMV folder (or you can use the .mpls file I guess).

Once you have that, you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos audio, then throw the thd+ac3 (Atmos file) and the MKV into TSMuxer, then mux.

Check this out:

For those that are looking to make this work in the easiest way possible:

1) Rip to MKV with MakeMKV
2) eac3to titlename.mkv 2: titlename.thd+ac3
Note: titlename should be replaced with the actual name of the MKV
3) Add the MKV and the thd+ac3 track to TSMuxer
4) Remux to TS

That's kinda what I did(in a convoluted way). The Atmos worked the way I did it but I am concerned about the mediainfo of the rip. I just created a new MKV from the Makemkv copy I made earlier and the mediainfo shows the same as my MKV from a few days ago. I still don't see any mention of Dolby Vision. The Blyray box says it has Dolby Vision...

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Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

[chrisandy]

I was just looking at the mediainfo of the MKV I ripped a couple days ago and I think this is the issue. for HDR format, I see "SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible". There is no mention of Dolby Vision.

Is there something I am missing in MakeMKV that isn't retaining the DV part(I am on 1.15.1)? Here are my two mediainfos...

MKV ripped via MakeMKV 1.15.1(only included video portion to keep it small)...

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General
Unique ID                                : 291245564851937371381727990531637701164 (0xDB1BDAFEE42A1A0F08758ABA50D0EA2C)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.4K.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 68.9 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 75.4 Mb/s
Movie name                               : John Wick 3: Parabellum
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-06-29 02:48:11
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.15.1 (1.3.5/1.4.7) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Resulting MUXED file...

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : P:\Movies\JOHN.WICK.3.PARABELLUM.DV.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 72.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 79.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 73.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.371
Stream size                              : 67.4 GiB (93%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2

I would try creating an MKV from the .index file of the BDMV folder (or you can use the .mpls file I guess).

Once you have that, you can use eac3to to extract the Atmos audio, then throw the thd+ac3 (Atmos file) and the MKV into TSMuxer, then mux.

Check this out:

For those that are looking to make this work in the easiest way possible:

1) Rip to MKV with MakeMKV
2) eac3to titlename.mkv 2: titlename.thd+ac3
Note: titlename should be replaced with the actual name of the MKV
3) Add the MKV and the thd+ac3 track to TSMuxer
4) Remux to TS

That's kinda what I did(in a convoluted way). The Atmos worked the way I did it but I am concerned about the mediainfo of the rip. I just created a new MKV from the Makemkv copy I made earlier and the mediainfo shows the same as my MKV from a few days ago. I still don't see any mention of Dolby Vision. The Blyray box says it has Dolby Vision...

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Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate                                 : 70.8 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.356
Stream size                              : 64.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 358 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

When you throw the MKV into TSMuxer, do you get two video files?

[Chuck_IV]

When you throw the MKV into TSMuxer, do you get two video files?

No, I only see one.

**EDIT**
So when I create an MKV, I only select the main movie and audio tracks needed. Is there another track I need to include when creating the MKV?

When I drag the MKV over, I get a message that a track isn't compatible. I was assuming that was the Atmos audio but now I'm not so sure.

When I drag the m2ts file from the copy, into txmuxer, i DO get two video files. Maybe I should try that.

[shawnc22]

When you throw the MKV into TSMuxer, do you get two video files?

No, I only see one.

**EDIT**
So when I create an MKV, I only select the main movie and audio tracks needed. Is there another track I need to include when creating the MKV?

When I drag the MKV over, I get a message that a track isn't compatible. I was assuming that was the Atmos audio but now I'm not so sure.

When I drag the m2ts file from the copy, into txmuxer, i DO get two video files. Maybe I should try that.

No you were doing it right the first time. Mediainfo will not show DV info on the mkv, just the TS. You're using the wrong version of tsmuxer. Look for the one labeled 04.06 fix that most people have been using around here.

[Alldu]

You can't with the DV mkv. You'd need to use yusecope's tool in mode 2 to discard the EL and then mux it with an edited tsmuxer to get profile 5.

I see. Would you be so kind to point me the direction where I can get that tool?

viewtopic.php?p=85413#p85413

Thanks Shawn! How exactly you can run it in mode 2?

EDIT: Ok, found it! Nevermind.