Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[planet_hoarder]

Btw, how do u know if a movie is in FEL or MEL? I know theres lists bluray forum, but if u didnt have that?

you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.

and how do u check bitrate? mediainfo doesnt tell me

what do you mean mediainfo doesn't tell?

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Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate                                 : 81.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.163
Stream size                              : 66.2 GiB (83%)
Title                                    : Gemini.Man.2019.2160p.BluRay.REMUX.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-FGT
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate                                 : 2 684 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.022
Stream size                              : 2.19 GiB (3%)
Title                                    : Gemini.Man.2019.2160p.BluRay.REMUX.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-FGT
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

BL Bitrate - 81Mb/s
EL Bitrate - 2 684 kb/s

Edit: My bad, this was dremuxed version... on the Disk it doesn't show, you are correct. Make an MKV remux and check the MediaInfo.

[RESET_9999]

you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.

and how do u check bitrate? mediainfo doesnt tell me

what do you mean mediainfo doesn't tell?

mediainfo doesnt say the bitrate when it's an original m2ts file.

But you can demux it and check the file size. MEL are smaller than 100mb and i've seen 8gb FEL.

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Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 16.7 GiB
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 44.6 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 644 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

[flashback8]

On a related note, it looks like Nvidia 2019 Shield Pros are finally getting restocked. Just ordered one from B&H, and it looks like Newegg and Amazon have them too. Hurry if you want one too!

[Alldu]

Some weird stuff here. So I created an m2ts DV file of Schindler's List with the edited tsMuxer, and everything is cool... except that my Sony X700 somehow refuses to fast forward it or rewind! It just says - this operation is prohibited. Anybody encountered the same anomaly? I did many DV titles, but this is the first time I see something like this. What could that be? Maybe because the movie is over 3 hours? Or the file is 97Gb? What gives?

[box4m]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

[planet_hoarder]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.

[box4m]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.

I will try profile 8 thanks.
Regarding only using one thread, ye maybe, but its called mp4muxer_64bit

edit: where can i read about the profiles btw? dolby seems to have removed the pdf?

[shawnc22]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

Why are you doing all of this if you have a shield? Also profile 8 is a single layer DV profile that has no EL support.

[box4m]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

Why are you doing all of this if you have a shield? Also profile 8 is a single layer DV profile that has no EL support.

what should i be doing?
i didnt get m2ts or ts working with mxplayer

[planet_hoarder]

when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?

your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.

I will try profile 8 thanks.
Regarding only using one thread, ye maybe, but its called mp4muxer_64bit

edit: where can i read about the profiles btw? dolby seems to have removed the pdf?

they didn't remove it, just changed the location:
https://professional.dolby.com/siteasse ... _09_16.pdf

yes, it is called xxx_64bit, but not xxx_64bit_mutithread. Two completely different things.

also for shield, you don't need to use Dolby's mp4muxer.
you can use your tsMuxer (04.06 fix). put output of yusecope's tool there and add sound, that's it.
for profile 8 you can try nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

[shawnc22]

they didn't remove it, just changed the location:
https://professional.dolby.com/siteasse ... _09_16.pdf

yes, it is called xxx_64bit, but not xxx_64bit_mutithread. Two completely different things.

also for shield, you don't need to use Dolby's mp4muxer.
you can use your tsMuxer (04.06 fix). put output of yusecope's tool there and add sound, that's it.
for profile 8 you can try nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

No, don’t do this. If you’re making BL+EL+RPU files, stick with the 04.06 version of tsmuxer you’ve been using. Profile 8 is not the correct profile to use for these files.

[box4m]

your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.

I will try profile 8 thanks.
Regarding only using one thread, ye maybe, but its called mp4muxer_64bit

edit: where can i read about the profiles btw? dolby seems to have removed the pdf?

they didn't remove it, just changed the location:
https://professional.dolby.com/siteasse ... _09_16.pdf

yes, it is called xxx_64bit, but not xxx_64bit_mutithread. Two completely different things.

also for shield, you don't need to use Dolby's mp4muxer.
you can use your tsMuxer (04.06 fix). put output of yusecope's tool there and add sound, that's it.
for profile 8 you can try nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

tsmuxer finishes in 0seconds when trying to mux to .ts "finished with error code -1", not sure if there are logs?

[MastaG]

A little unrelated to this topic.
But I'm trying to demux the blu-ray discs of westworld season 1 and 2.
But there's so many files on those discs.
How do I know which playlist contains a certain episode?

[planet_hoarder]

they didn't remove it, just changed the location:
https://professional.dolby.com/siteasse ... _09_16.pdf

yes, it is called xxx_64bit, but not xxx_64bit_mutithread. Two completely different things.

also for shield, you don't need to use Dolby's mp4muxer.
you can use your tsMuxer (04.06 fix). put output of yusecope's tool there and add sound, that's it.
for profile 8 you can try nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

No, don’t do this. If you’re making BL+EL+RPU files, stick with the 04.06 version of tsmuxer you’ve been using. Profile 8 is not the correct profile to use for these files.

Dolby's white paper says profile 4 needs two layers. yusecope tool combines two layers into one - BL+EL+RPU.hevc
even readme from latest broken mp4muxer says so:

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           "To multiplex Dolby vision BL+EL+RPU file into a .mp4 file with EC-3 audio track:\n"
           "   mp4muxer -i ves_bl_el_rpu.265 -i audio.ec3 -o output.mp4 --dv-profile 8 \n" 
           "            --dv-bl-compatible-id 2 --mpeg4-comp-brand mp42,iso6,isom,msdh,dby1 --overwrite \n"
           "   Note: For the Dolby vision profile 8, dv-bl-compatible-id is necessary. \n\n"

afaik, profile 4 and 7 (and dropped 6) needs second physical layer. At least when I create profile 4 from tsMuxer, it stutters on my LG OLED.
when I create profile 4,6 or 7 from old mp4muxer_64bit, plays perfectly.
when I create profile 8 from tsMuxer with output BL_EL_RPU.hevc from yusecope's tool - plays in DV on my TV.
too bad latest release of dolby's mp4muxer is faulty (created profile 8 plays in HDR), otherwise would have been a nice additional tool.

NOW. the biggest question is how to spot a difference between DV profiles (4,7,8) on the screen.
I wonder, if profile 8 is basically combined 4 and 6, with traces of 7 and older 2,3; then it is an ultimate DV profile for all. I just want to know if there is any difference.

[planet_hoarder]

A little unrelated to this topic.
But I'm trying to demux the blu-ray discs of westworld season 1 and 2.
But there's so many files on those discs.
How do I know which playlist contains a certain episode?

try create mkv episodes using makemkv. otherwise, no idea