Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[kazuma]

depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.

the utility of the M9702 is big for me.

[Trujax]

If the internal LG player is your only playback device, stick with mp4muxer. There's no point in messing with tsmuxer since you can't use lossless atmos.

I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.

Have you tried any titles that're listed as FEL here? And does that play without stutter on your LG internal player as well?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

Tryed with Saving Private Ryan and Midway and runs ok.

[thetoad]

depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.

the utility of the M9702 is big for me.

yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)

I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,

[kazuma]

depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.

the utility of the M9702 is big for me.

yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)

I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,

my advantage is that i'm gonna use that thing only for my extern usb HDD. i hate stream/nas things. so for my situation is this perfect. i've have all my content on my usb hdd's..

which version have you? V3? are you satisfied with it? outside nas/streaming..

[whatsmyname]

I use my m9702 daily, with that said, it is far from perfect. If KODI or Plex could ever play dolby vision bluray rips to my TV we;;, life will be much better. with that said, we are far from that day.

never gonna happen..

It's already happened the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

[shawnc22]

I use a Shield connected to a Yamaha Atmos receiver, but I always test with the internal LG player also, to test maximum compatibility. In the past, none of my remuxes couldn't be played with the LG, but the Shield did. Now it works flawlessly with both.

Have you tried any titles that're listed as FEL here? And does that play without stutter on your LG internal player as well?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

Tryed with Saving Private Ryan and Midway and runs ok.

Ah could be just a coincidence that some of the FEL titles I have stutter on the internal player. 1917, Anna, Mission Impossible Fallout, and Fate of the Furious, just to mention a few, all stutter for me. A lot of others do seem to play without issue, though, so still seems a bit hit or miss to me.

[thetoad]

depends on your situation. its nice for me to skip all the demux/convert progress and put the iso/m2ts file in the M9702 and play DV/Atmos directly. i love to collect movies with menu's (iso's). for example: i have so all cuts of a movie like alien (1979), apocalypse now for my collection and not losless mkv remux files of each theatrical/extended cut. so i've save space. and menu's with series like game of thrones is useful for me.

the utility of the M9702 is big for me.

yes, there are times where menus are of value, but there are plenty more times when they don't give value. I have an m9702, I'm using it right now, but if there was a better way to play dolby vision discs I'd drop it in a heartbeat as its a terrible device overall. I have a really really large nas storage (we are talking triple digit terrabytes). you know what the m9702 does? it wants to scan the entire thing. terrible. we all know that if the fs on your nas changes, it wont see it until you reboot (combine with the above issue of scanning)

I wish I could drop it, but as you said, its the only thing that can reliably do dolby vision for us today,

my advantage is that i'm gonna use that thing only for my extern usb HDD. i hate stream/nas things. so for my situation is this perfect. i've have all my content on my usb hdd's..

which version have you? V3? are you satisfied with it? outside nas/streaming..

not sure which one I have, have had it for a year. At the end of the day, the only imporvement over the dune smart I upgraded to it frm is that it can do 4k and dolby vision. As the majority of 4K content that isn't dolby vision I can easily turn into MKVs that's not such a big win as Kodi on my TV can play them perfectly. So the only real win is dolby vision. Which is a real thing. But it goes to why I strongly discourage most people from getting it unless dolby vision content is very important to them. Everything else the box can do can be done cheaper and better by other devices.

[box4m]

never gonna happen..

It's already happened the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

Are you saying hes playing a dv single layer video in kodi 18.6?

[Grencola]

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

It's an mp4, so it could be either profile. it's almost surely 7 though given this info by Nancy from the Ugoos staff:

Dual layer currently is no problem. for single layer, Amlogic will update new SDK for s922x-j soon. Shortly after we receive the SDK we will push a new update.

[Donpoku]

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

It's an mp4, so it could be either profile. it's almost surely 7 though given this info by Nancy from the Ugoos staff:

Dual layer currently is no problem. for single layer, Amlogic will update new SDK for s922x-j soon. Shortly after we receive the SDK we will push a new update.

Hi m8 can u find out if it pays 3D ISO please? Thx
If it does 3D ISO + Dual layer Dolby Vision(which format specifically btw?), then I'll also swap my M9702 for it.

[Angryunibrow]

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

It's an mp4, so it could be either profile. it's almost surely 7 though given this info by Nancy from the Ugoos staff:

Dual layer currently is no problem. for single layer, Amlogic will update new SDK for s922x-j soon. Shortly after we receive the SDK we will push a new update.

Why does this sound too good to be true.....

[Grencola]

Hi m8 can u find out if it pays 3D ISO please? Thx
If it does 3D ISO + Dual layer Dolby Vision(which format specifically btw?), then I'll also swap my M9702 for it.

it's quite possible, I'll look into it.

Why does this sound too good to be true.....

Well it's 2020, we should start seeing more and more of these devices surface. Minix even finally wrote back and said they're also waiting on the Amlogic SDK releasing at the end of the month so they can get dv colors to look proper, so everything sounds pretty legit.

[whatsmyname]

It's already happened the Ugoos AM6 Plus plays profile 7 dv rips in kodi 18.6 (seek to 5:15ish): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cpBJSM ... Wt_2A/view I've also heard from people who have successfully played DV profile 5 rips in kodi 19 on their shield. both devices are quickly shaping up to be m9702 killers..

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

Are you saying hes playing a dv single layer video in kodi 18.6?

Yes, he said he created a couple of single layer videos and they are played by the Google Video Player (apparently it's an alpha version, you can't skip/rewind/pause, only stop) in Kodi.

I didn't watch the whole video but at 5:15 he is playing a single layer DV rip. Also later in the video he mentioned that it doesn't play double layer.

It's an mp4, so it could be either profile. it's almost surely 7 though given this info by Nancy from the Ugoos staff:

Dual layer currently is no problem. for single layer, Amlogic will update new SDK for s922x-j soon. Shortly after we receive the SDK we will push a new update.

I have no idea about this device, so maybe it can play profile 7, but in the video he definetly said it plays single layer but no double layer video.
Idk what it can do, just telling you what he said in the video.

[Grencola]

I have no idea about this device, so maybe it can play profile 7, but in the video he definetly said it plays single layer but no double layer video.
Idk what it can do, just telling you what he said in the video.

Thanks for clarifying! The colors I'm the video seem ok, but maybe the dv fixes in the new sdk will make it even better. cool that it can do both profiles though since 7 has already been confirmed.

[shawnc22]

The 0.0.4 ALFA version of my program is out.
As always, I have updated my original post (at the bottom). HERE.

Two main changes:

• the ability to manage raw streams extracted from REMUXed files (out there, into the wild) that in the past have retained the stream relating to the Enhancement Layer.

• given the requests of different users, I have introduced the DEMUX function. Starting from a raw Single Track Double Layer HEVC file (BL_EL_RPU.hevc) it is possible to restore the Base Layer (BL.hevc) and the Enhancement Layer (EL_RPU.hevc)

People who are afraid of black screens with white writing (a.k.a command line), can use the handy "MUXER.bat" (the old "start_bl_el_rpu_builder.bat") and "DEMUXER.bat" files and follow the instructions on the screen.
The more practical ones can run the program with the "-h" switch and see the help output.

Considerations:

• as for the first point, I recommend to always use the copy of your original disc. Technically speaking, REMUXed files may have lost important information during their creation. So a 1:1 copy of a BD disc may be different than a 1:1 copy of a REMUXed file. Take a look at the counters: if the total number of Access Units of BL Layer is different from that of EL Layer (the numbers you see in parentheses), it is likely that the file obtained does not work correctly (especially if the difference is greater than 1).
  
  WARNING

  Out of curiosity, I tested my program using a REMUXed mkv (Birds of Prey) that can be found "into the wild".
  The first video stream is already a BL_EL_RPU stream (evidently they used the latest version of MakeMKV) and then they added a second video stream which is actually the Enhancement Layer.
  A mess...
  
  If you mux (using my program) these anomalous video streams you will create a file with duplicate layers (because part of them were already present in the first stream which, strictly speaking, should be the Base Layer and not Base Layer + Enhancement Layer).
  
  Pay attention to the REMUX (with two video streams) created after the release of the latest version of MakeMKV (v1.15.1).
  
  The good news is that, if you notice it before making a mess, you can directly import the REMUX file into tsMuxer and tick only the box of the first video stream!

• As for the second point, if you intend to use the DEMUX function starting from REMUXed files (even those created with the latest version of MakeMKV), in case you want to recreate a BL_EL_RPU.hevc file you MUST NECESSARILY use version 0.0.4 ALFA of my program. Previous versions (<= 0.0.3) will not be able to complete the analysis and writing cycle of the file.

• It's an experimental version, there are likely to be errors in the code ( ).
  If you provide me with relevant feedback, I will try to improve it!

unfortunately Yusesope's tool didn't helped for my setup, since it only makes dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU and dvhe.06.06, BL+EL+RPU

what I need is dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU

My tool returns a RAW HEVC file.
If you don't like meat prepared by the cook, don't take it out on the supplier who sold him raw meat.
There is a reason (widely debated on the pages of this thread) why tsMuxer chose one profile and not another.
In your case, since you need a file with profile dvhe.05, I would simply force the application behavior by modifying the source code you find on Github. Just comment out the part of the code that decides the type of profile (the file is hevcStreamReader.cpp), insert two simple lines of code ("profile = 5;" the first and "compatibility = 0;" the second) and compile the app with the changes made.

The user @shawnc22 has done this in the past. He's kind and resourceful, maybe you could ask him if you're having trouble.

It'd be interesting to "split" them into separate layers. Maybe see if we can use the RPU with x265's RPU option, though I don't know if that would even work.

What you are referring to are RPU metadata. If you want to know what's inside, @jcdr428 (one of tsMuxer's contributors) has lines of code suitable for this purpose: you could ask him if he wants to share his work.

At the moment, the algorithm that generates these metadata is unknown.
I believe that if you re-encode the various layers with x265 you must also modify the RPU parameters at the same time.
Without the algorithm that generates them, however, I don't think it can be done.

Thanks for the hard work as always, yusecope! A quick question about mode 2 when used with FEL titles. Is the data in the enhancement layer merged somehow into the base layer, or is it simply discarded? And regardless, if the resulting BL+RPU track is meant to be profile 5, is there also an IPT color space conversion being done? If not, then wouldn't it produce some color oddities during playback when forced to a profile 5 file in tsmuxer?