Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[Grencola]

@Grencola what happens with your minix device? I told you, they lie and only want to sell

I know right?! that's pretty brutal. I had a feeling they'd tergiversate upon launch, seemed like a marketing gimmick. I still haven't heard from users testing it though, so there's still a small chance it can play (at least prof 5) dv files.

soo: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-21265 apparently it supports both single layer and dual layer.. I'm waiting on more confirmation.. could this really be the first (non bd) device to do this?!

[rosavanwinkle]

Don't take this the wrong way, but why, when he basically asked for the easiest possible method, did you post the convoluted method using yusecope's tool, when there is now a much easier method just using makemkv and tsmuxer (and eac3to if you want TrueHD)? Is there something I'm missing that makes the old convoluted method that creates tons of files better than the new method that gives you a file that will hopefully be able to be used directly in the near future?

not taking the wrong way at all,but the problems that i'm having is atm makemkv being mean to me and not working fine,BUT that again is maybe something that i am doing wrong,so what i'm now asking is someone please make another guide for him(and me) so we can have the easy method now. and that would also make the process for me better to.

[shawnc22]

@Grencola what happens with your minix device? I told you, they lie and only want to sell

I know right?! that's pretty brutal. I had a feeling they'd tergiversate upon launch, seemed like a marketing gimmick. I still haven't heard from users testing it though, so there's still a small chance it can play (at least prof 5) dv files.

soo: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-21265 apparently it supports both single layer and dual layer.. I'm waiting on more confirmation.. could this really be the first (non bd) device to do this?!

wait am I missing something in that thread, it looks like somebody just posted some mediainfo without saying much else?

[Grencola]

I know right?! that's pretty brutal. I had a feeling they'd tergiversate upon launch, seemed like a marketing gimmick. I still haven't heard from users testing it though, so there's still a small chance it can play (at least prof 5) dv files.

soo: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-21265 apparently it supports both single layer and dual layer.. I'm waiting on more confirmation.. could this really be the first (non bd) device to do this?!

wait am I missing something in that thread, it looks like somebody just posted some mediainfo without saying much else?

well it was asked if dv playback had been tested, and a user replied saying mp4 with ac3 audio, so I asked to see the mediainfo and low and behold it was dual layer. but yes quite vague, so waiting for more testing obviously

[shawnc22]

soo: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-21265 apparently it supports both single layer and dual layer.. I'm waiting on more confirmation.. could this really be the first (non bd) device to do this?!

wait am I missing something in that thread, it looks like somebody just posted some mediainfo without saying much else?

well it was asked if dv playback had been tested, and a user replied saying mp4 with ac3 audio, so I asked to see the mediainfo and low and behold it was dual layer. but yes quite vague, so waiting for more testing obviously

ok i should've figured "mit" was german for with . that clears it up

[mulucy]

soo: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-21265 apparently it supports both single layer and dual layer.. I'm waiting on more confirmation.. could this really be the first (non bd) device to do this?!

wait am I missing something in that thread, it looks like somebody just posted some mediainfo without saying much else?

well it was asked if dv playback had been tested, and a user replied saying mp4 with ac3 audio, so I asked to see the mediainfo and low and behold it was dual layer. but yes quite vague, so waiting for more testing obviously

There is a better box; it's called Ugoos M6 Plus with supports for Dolby Vision and HDR10+. There is a good review on this YouTube channel for this box link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3BxCmgL6U&t=17s, fast forward it to 20:45 where he demonstrates it with a native player. According to the channel, it's the best box at the moment with proper AFR switch and on par with Nvidia Shield 2019 when it comes to overall performance. The channel is on Russian ( it's my second tongue, so I asked him about the profiles ). The second box would be this here Zappiti Pro 4K - link to YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXH38JOeKs; the company just updated the software and pushed unofficial Dolby Vision support, scroll through comments. I have not tested any of the boxes myself, but Zappiti looks pretty good since it plays ISO and Blu-Ray folder backups with menu support. All two players support DTS:X, Atmos and DTS/Dolby lossless audio codes.

[mulucy]

wait am I missing something in that thread, it looks like somebody just posted some mediainfo without saying much else?

well it was asked if dv playback had been tested, and a user replied saying mp4 with ac3 audio, so I asked to see the mediainfo and low and behold it was dual layer. but yes quite vague, so waiting for more testing obviously

ok i should've figured "mit" was german for with . that clears it up

see my comment above

[Grencola]

There is a better box; it's called Ugoos M6 Plus with supports for Dolby Vision and HDR10+. There is a good review on this YouTube channel for this box link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3BxCmgL6U&t=17s, fast forward it to 20:45 where he demonstrates it with a native player. According to the channel, it's the best box at the moment with proper AFR switch and on par with Nvidia Shield 2019 when it comes to overall performance. The channel is on Russian ( it's my second tongue, so I asked him about the profiles ).

This box is basically identical to the minix u22 as they both share the same S922X-J soc. weird that the YouTube video showing the dv logo on the tv says it's only 1080p, but also that demo is only single layer profile 5 so hasn't confirmed dual layer profile 7 yet. minix offers 2-3 yrs of firmware updates and bug fixes though so it might have an edge up on the M6.

The second box would be this here Zappiti Pro 4K - link to YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXH38JOeKs; the company just updated the software and pushed unofficial Dolby Vision support, scroll through comments. I have not tested any of the boxes myself, but Zappiti looks pretty good since it plays ISO and Blu-Ray folder backups with menu support. All two players support DTS:X, Atmos and DTS/Dolby lossless audio codes.

This box is ridiculously expensive, and scrolling through the comments as suggested says the chipset doesn't even support dolby vision and the dv firmware update appears fake and doesn't work for anyone who's tried it. but here's hoping!

[Grencola]

it has begun! world's first dolby vision projector
https://youtu.be/KDxzd40gv-4

[TickTock]

use this version of tsmuxer, then the output will be dhve05.06 instead of dhve 08.06

https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

Did you link to the correct version? I ask because I used the version you linked to and it created a file with:

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.06.06

I aborted the process because when I used w64-nightly2020-04-07--02-11-14 it created a file with the same output and that file plays as HDR10 on my TV. I'm trying to work out how to create a file with profile 5 because The Mandalorian plays perfectly on my TV:

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU

you got dhve 06.06 because you used mode 1 of yusesope's tool, and the new version of tsmuxer.
It seems that you download the wrong file ? I have tested the link. the date of tsmuxer.exe must be 2020-03-30.
mode 1 of yusesope's tool ——>BL+EL+RPU ——> dhve 04.06(old version of temuxer, I posted the link) or 06.06(new version of tsmuxer)
mode 2 of yusesope's tool ——>BL+RPU ——> dhve 05.06(old version of temuxer , I posted the link) or 08.06(new version of tsmuxer)

Oh, I used MakeMKV and tsMuxeR to create the file, I had tried yusesope's tool on a couple of films with mode 1 but they didn't work. I tried yusesope's tool with mode set as 2 and then used tsMuxeR and the film works perfectly, with the version of tsMuxeR you linked to (dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU) and the latest version (dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU). This is the first time I've been able to create a full playable Dolby Vision film. Thank you for your response and help .

Do you know of a method to create working Dolby Vision films with?:

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU

The clip @shawnc22 posted here:
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 613#p88613

works on my TV but when I attempted to create the same film it plays with a black screen and sound. The strange thing is both the clip and the film I created have exactly the same HDR format info:

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

I'm trying to work out why my TV plays the clip but not the film.

[shawnc22]

The clip @shawnc22 posted here:
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 613#p88613

works on my TV but when I attempted to create the same film it plays with a black screen and sound. The strange thing is both the clip and the film I created have exactly the same HDR format info:

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

I'm trying to work out why my TV plays the clip but not the film.

My clip was made with yusecope's tool in the default mode. You may want to give that another try if you're using the video track from makemkv. I'm honestly not sure which version of tsmuxer will work correctly with the video tracks that makemkv is now generating. Even though all the mediainfo have looked good, sometimes the video track is just not getting picked up on playback. I thought I had the issue narrowed down to HDR10+ and recent versions of tsmuxer, but there've been so many reports of other films that I've just gone back to the old method (yusecope's tool) of making my TS remuxes. I've never had an issue with the video track not being picked up with yusecope's tool and any versions of tsmuxer. Most of my testing have been done on the shield, so I can't really speak to what should and shouldn't work on a TV's internal player.

[parapata]

1 makemkv
2 TsMuxer dvhe.04 (ts)
3 Nvdia shield 2019 pro
4 Mx pro
Perfect DV-ATMOS-SUBT

[badrobot]

Did you link to the correct version? I ask because I used the version you linked to and it created a file with:



I aborted the process because when I used w64-nightly2020-04-07--02-11-14 it created a file with the same output and that file plays as HDR10 on my TV. I'm trying to work out how to create a file with profile 5 because The Mandalorian plays perfectly on my TV:

you got dhve 06.06 because you used mode 1 of yusesope's tool, and the new version of tsmuxer.
It seems that you download the wrong file ? I have tested the link. the date of tsmuxer.exe must be 2020-03-30.
mode 1 of yusesope's tool ——>BL+EL+RPU ——> dhve 04.06(old version of temuxer, I posted the link) or 06.06(new version of tsmuxer)
mode 2 of yusesope's tool ——>BL+RPU ——> dhve 05.06(old version of temuxer , I posted the link) or 08.06(new version of tsmuxer)

Oh, I used MakeMKV and tsMuxeR to create the file, I had tried yusesope's tool on a couple of films with mode 1 but they didn't work. I tried yusesope's tool with mode set as 2 and then used tsMuxeR and the film works perfectly, with the version of tsMuxeR you linked to (dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU) and the latest version (dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU). This is the first time I've been able to create a full playable Dolby Vision film. Thank you for your response and help .

Do you know of a method to create working Dolby Vision films with?:

Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU

The clip @shawnc22 posted here:
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 613#p88613

works on my TV but when I attempted to create the same film it plays with a black screen and sound. The strange thing is both the clip and the film I created have exactly the same HDR format info:

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

HDR format: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

I'm trying to work out why my TV plays the clip but not the film.

you need dhve 04.06? follow this:
1/ use ffmpeg to extract the BL to BL.hevc, EL+RPU to EL_RPU.hevc.

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ffmpeg.exe -i d:\your_input_file.m2ts -map 0:0 -c copy d:\BL.hevc -map 0:1 -c copy d:\EL_RPU.hevc

2/ use mode 1 of yusesope's tool to mix BL.hevc and EL+RPU.hevc. example output file name FULL.hevc

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python BL_EL_RPU_BUILDER.py -bl d:\BL.hevc -el d:\EL_RPU.hevc -of d:\FULL.hevc

3/ use old version of tsmuxer to remux FULL.hevc and sound track from m2ts(or other video file)

Bingo!

[Grencola]

3 Nvdia shield 2019 pro
4 Mx pro

has nvidia pushed a universal match frame rate toggle? I thought MX pro plays 24p movies in 60p, unless the entire shield gui is forced to 24p which makes it slow and jittery? Plex app supports proper frame rate matching.

[mulucy]

There is a better box; it's called Ugoos M6 Plus with supports for Dolby Vision and HDR10+. There is a good review on this YouTube channel for this box link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3BxCmgL6U&t=17s, fast forward it to 20:45 where he demonstrates it with a native player. According to the channel, it's the best box at the moment with proper AFR switch and on par with Nvidia Shield 2019 when it comes to overall performance. The channel is on Russian ( it's my second tongue, so I asked him about the profiles ).

This box is basically identical to the minix u22 as they both share the same S922X-J soc. weird that the YouTube video showing the dv logo on the tv says it's only 1080p, but also that demo is only single layer profile 5 so hasn't confirmed dual layer profile 7 yet. minix offers 2-3 yrs of firmware updates and bug fixes though so it might have an edge up on the M6.

The second box would be this here Zappiti Pro 4K - link to YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXH38JOeKs; the company just updated the software and pushed unofficial Dolby Vision support, scroll through comments. I have not tested any of the boxes myself, but Zappiti looks pretty good since it plays ISO and Blu-Ray folder backups with menu support. All two players support DTS:X, Atmos and DTS/Dolby lossless audio codes.

This box is ridiculously expensive, and scrolling through the comments as suggested says the chipset doesn't even support dolby vision and the dv firmware update appears fake and doesn't work for anyone who's tried it. but here's hoping!

I am not even interested in Zappiti, to be honest. BTW, the SOCs are not quite identical with Ugoos and Minix. The latter is using some custom S922X-J up 1.7Ghz, but Ugoos is using stock 2.2Ghz clock speed. The performance of Ugoos in comparison to 2019 Shield TV is almost identical. The channel I posted the videos on Youtube is the best in Runet ( Russian Internet ). He goes above and beyond to test literally everything like he is going to use it for Space travel lol. I don't understand how Minix released a product without AFR. According to the channel, Minix has a very bad reputation for promising and not releasing promised updates and fixes.
Anyway, I am not really a fan of Chinese boxes, but I am willing to give a try if they fully support the dual-layer DV files found in UHD disks ( profile 7 ). Almost forgot to mention, Ugoos supports the HD audio with Atmos/DTS:X, unlike Minix.

Minix neo u22-xj https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY9NON2Imf8&t=1186s
Ugoos AM6 Plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3BxCmgL6U&t=1117s
Ugoos Am6 Plus vs Shield TV 2019 Geekbench https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVe7utgv-U4&t=740s