Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2206 Post by Sgt Hartman » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:31 pm

ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm
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I tried also yusesope tool and .ts profile 6 using the latest nightly tsmuxer.
On the shield still the flicking problem as you said. The file does not play in Lg C8 via Plex/Emby. Just black screen.
It plays flawlessly in Sony X700 via dlna from plex server including pgs subtitles and Dolby Atmos.
That was the best performance, indistinguishable from the original UHD disc played trough the same Sony X700.

Then i used the same profile 6 for muxing the mkv made by the latest version. To my surprise the resulting ts gave black screen on shield and did not play in Sony X700: What is going on?????
So, it seem like purely a Shield issue...
I also tried the last version of MakeMKV and I get the same trouble, I thinks we need to wait for further releases.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2207 Post by shawnc22 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:57 pm

ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm
Then i used the same profile 6 for muxing the mkv made by the latest version. To my surprise the resulting ts gave black screen on shield and did not play in Sony X700: What is going on?????
I’m guessing if you go into plex and look at the resulting ts, it will show no video track, but mediainfo will show that everything is fine. I had originally thought that this problem was isolated to hdr10+ films but it definitely seems more widespread than that. It’s an issue with the combination of latest tsmuxer build (ac9b47c was the one I’m on) and the video track that makemkv is now creating. This build works fine with the track that yusecope’s tool generates. There’s just something it doesn’t like about the mkv’s track, but if you go back a few weeks to an earlier build (not sure which exact one yet, but 3-27 or 3-28 nightly should work), the mkv’s video track will work fine in creating a playable DV TS just like yusecope’s tool. It also has nothing to do with profiles as changing the latest build to produce profile 4 files results in the same issue.

Maybe this is just my computer, but something else I’ve noticed with the recent builds of tsmuxer is that regardless of which video track was used and whether or not it plays with video on plex, if you right click on the TS file in Windows, go down to Properties and look under the Details tab, the width, height, and frame rate information is all missing. TS files generated with earlier builds of tsmuxer did have all these information filled in. Not sure if it’s related to the other problem at all, but just thought it was interesting.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2208 Post by mulucy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:58 pm

Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:31 pm
ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm
@shawnc22

Saving private Ryan

I tried also yusesope tool and .ts profile 6 using the latest nightly tsmuxer.
On the shield still the flicking problem as you said. The file does not play in Lg C8 via Plex/Emby. Just black screen.
It plays flawlessly in Sony X700 via dlna from plex server including pgs subtitles and Dolby Atmos.
That was the best performance, indistinguishable from the original UHD disc played trough the same Sony X700.

Then i used the same profile 6 for muxing the mkv made by the latest version. To my surprise the resulting ts gave black screen on shield and did not play in Sony X700: What is going on?????
So, it seem like purely a Shield issue...
I also tried the last version of MakeMKV and I get the same trouble, I thinks we need to wait for further releases.
I think it's a Plex issue. Recently Plex updated the app on Fire TV, all DV videos are black screen now ( except a few ), but audio works

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2209 Post by Sgt Hartman » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:03 pm

mulucy wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:58 pm
I think it's a Plex issue. Recently Plex updated the app on Fire TV, all DV videos are black screen now ( except a few ), but audio works
I tried with Shield default player and despite it triggers DV I get the same effect, that's why it seems to me more a Shield issue.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2210 Post by ragico » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:30 pm

shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:57 pm
ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm
Then i used the same profile 6 for muxing the mkv made by the latest version. To my surprise the resulting ts gave black screen on shield and did not play in Sony X700: What is going on?????
I’m guessing if you go into plex and look at the resulting ts, it will show no video track, but mediainfo will show that everything is fine. I had originally thought that this problem was isolated to hdr10+ films but it definitely seems more widespread than that. It’s an issue with the combination of latest tsmuxer build (ac9b47c was the one I’m on) and the video track that makemkv is now creating. This build works fine with the track that yusecope’s tool generates. There’s just something it doesn’t like about the mkv’s track, but if you go back a few weeks to an earlier build (not sure which exact one yet, but 3-27 or 3-28 nightly should work), the mkv’s video track will work fine in creating a playable DV TS just like yusecope’s tool. It also has nothing to do with profiles as changing the latest build to produce profile 4 files results in the same issue.

Maybe this is just my computer, but something else I’ve noticed with the recent builds of tsmuxer is that regardless of which video track was used and whether or not it plays with video on plex, if you right click on the TS file in Windows, go down to Properties and look under the Details tab, the width, height, and frame rate information is all missing. TS files generated with earlier builds of tsmuxer did have all these information filled in. Not sure if it’s related to the other problem at all, but just thought it was interesting.
Can you change from profile 4 to profile 6 the tsmuxer version that you use and post it here? I would like to do some experiments but the profile must be 6
Thanks

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2211 Post by shawnc22 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:59 pm

ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:30 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:57 pm
ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm
Then i used the same profile 6 for muxing the mkv made by the latest version. To my surprise the resulting ts gave black screen on shield and did not play in Sony X700: What is going on?????
I’m guessing if you go into plex and look at the resulting ts, it will show no video track, but mediainfo will show that everything is fine. I had originally thought that this problem was isolated to hdr10+ films but it definitely seems more widespread than that. It’s an issue with the combination of latest tsmuxer build (ac9b47c was the one I’m on) and the video track that makemkv is now creating. This build works fine with the track that yusecope’s tool generates. There’s just something it doesn’t like about the mkv’s track, but if you go back a few weeks to an earlier build (not sure which exact one yet, but 3-27 or 3-28 nightly should work), the mkv’s video track will work fine in creating a playable DV TS just like yusecope’s tool. It also has nothing to do with profiles as changing the latest build to produce profile 4 files results in the same issue.

Maybe this is just my computer, but something else I’ve noticed with the recent builds of tsmuxer is that regardless of which video track was used and whether or not it plays with video on plex, if you right click on the TS file in Windows, go down to Properties and look under the Details tab, the width, height, and frame rate information is all missing. TS files generated with earlier builds of tsmuxer did have all these information filled in. Not sure if it’s related to the other problem at all, but just thought it was interesting.
Can you change from profile 4 to profile 6 the tsmuxer version that you use and post it here? I would like to do some experiments but the profile must be 6
Thanks
Sure, the latest nightly version will give you profile 6 when using BL+EL+RPU single track files.

https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 2-02#files

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2212 Post by ragico » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:09 pm

ragico wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:30 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:57 pm
Can you change from profile 4 to profile 6 the tsmuxer version that you use and post it here? I would like to do some experiments but the profile must be 6
Thanks
Sure, the latest nightly version will give you profile 6 when using BL+EL+RPU single track files.



Thanks.I know that version. I was asking if you can modify the version that you use from profile 4 to profile 6, and post it here

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2213 Post by kazuma » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 pm

@grencola, which profile uses your tool? or is this question irrelevant?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2214 Post by Grencola » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm

kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 pm
@grencola, which profile uses your tool? or is this question irrelevant?
My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2215 Post by mulucy » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am

Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 pm
@grencola, which profile uses your tool? or is this question irrelevant?
My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2216 Post by shawnc22 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am
Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 pm
@grencola, which profile uses your tool? or is this question irrelevant?
My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2217 Post by mulucy » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am

shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am
Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm

My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2218 Post by shawnc22 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:24 am

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am

Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
yep, that's about it

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2219 Post by Grencola » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:26 am

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am

Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
you're both correct. however you can skip yusesope's tool if you rip your movie with the new makemkv (or dvdfab) first, before putting it through tsmuxer.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#2220 Post by box4m » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:12 am

Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:26 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am

nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
you're both correct. however you can skip yusesope's tool if you rip your movie with the new makemkv (or dvdfab) first, before putting it through tsmuxer.
Sorry i dont understand that, how does new makemkv help in creating a single layer file?

edit: i tried it and seems like it created single layer hmm, is it "correct" or dvdfabmethod?

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