Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am
Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm

My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 »

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am

Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
yep, that's about it
Grencola
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Grencola »

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am

Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
you're both correct. however you can skip yusesope's tool if you rip your movie with the new makemkv (or dvdfab) first, before putting it through tsmuxer.
box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by box4m »

Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:26 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am

nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
Thank you for the response. I am assuming this approach is only good for Sony X700 since other players like Shield TV don't support profile 7. In that case, we need to use yusecope's tool. Correct me if I am wrong, please
you're both correct. however you can skip yusesope's tool if you rip your movie with the new makemkv (or dvdfab) first, before putting it through tsmuxer.
Sorry i dont understand that, how does new makemkv help in creating a single layer file?

edit: i tried it and seems like it created single layer hmm, is it "correct" or dvdfabmethod?
darrrkmanxxx
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by darrrkmanxxx »

Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 pm
@grencola, which profile uses your tool? or is this question irrelevant?
My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
How did you achieved that? Do I need to tweak settings somewhere in tsMuxer? I used w64-nightly-2020-04-19--02-12-02 and tried to generate a dv .ts, with those settings:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZTYpgK ... sp=sharing

But what came out is (no dv detected):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/103ylhd ... sp=sharing

What am I doing wrong?
4knewbie
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by 4knewbie »

Does anyone know why some movies have a very light DV layer (usually under 100MB) and some others have a much larger one (~5-7 GB) ?
Sgt Hartman
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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So, I tried Saving Private Ryan with last MakeMKV, muxing with tsMuxer (profile 6 and 4). With 6 no video, only audio. With 4 same "blinking" effect both on Plex and MX Player, I really think it's a Shield issue.
Grencola
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Grencola »

box4m wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:12 am
edit: i tried it and seems like it created single layer hmm, is it "correct" or dvdfabmethod?
correct. the shield has its own weird color and stutter bugs etc, but all the dv info is retained. comparing the disc to the .ts on x700 is identical.
darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:30 am

How did you achieved that? Do I need to tweak settings somewhere in tsMuxer? I used w64-nightly-2020-04-19--02-12-02 and tried to generate a dv .ts, with those settings:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZTYpgK ... sp=sharing

But what came out is (no dv detected):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/103ylhd ... sp=sharing

What am I doing wrong?
try using tsmuxer(4.06 fix).rar from a few pages ago
4knewbie wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:26 am
Does anyone know why some movies have a very light DV layer (usually under 100MB) and some others have a much larger one (~5-7 GB) ?
Yea, that's MEL vs FEL (minimal vs full enhancement layer). mel carries just the rpu metadata where fel carries the full 12-bit info (debatable if needed as nothing is 12 bit yet).
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:07 pm
So, I tried Saving Private Ryan with last MakeMKV, muxing with tsMuxer (profile 6 and 4). With 6 no video, only audio. With 4 same "blinking" effect both on Plex and MX Player, I really think it's a Shield issue.
you're using both latest apps? the latest plex beta breaks dv, so you need to use the version just before it.
Sgt Hartman
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Sgt Hartman »

Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:07 pm
So, I tried Saving Private Ryan with last MakeMKV, muxing with tsMuxer (profile 6 and 4). With 6 no video, only audio. With 4 same "blinking" effect both on Plex and MX Player, I really think it's a Shield issue.
you're using both latest apps? the latest plex beta breaks dv, so you need to use the version just before it.
I used the latest official versions, about Plex both old and new exoplayer, same result. It's just that movie, for the others seems to work fine.
Grencola
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Grencola »

Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:36 pm
It's just that movie, for the others seems to work fine.
Ah, ok. Yea it's always a pain when there's an odd one out that doesn't work, yet your process is the same. it has a decently sized FEL (6mb/s) which is the only thing I can think of.
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 »

Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:36 pm
Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:07 pm
So, I tried Saving Private Ryan with last MakeMKV, muxing with tsMuxer (profile 6 and 4). With 6 no video, only audio. With 4 same "blinking" effect both on Plex and MX Player, I really think it's a Shield issue.
you're using both latest apps? the latest plex beta breaks dv, so you need to use the version just before it.
I used the latest official versions, about Plex both old and new exoplayer, same result. It's just that movie, for the others seems to work fine.
this is related to what I wrote here:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&start=2205#p88273
kazuma
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by kazuma »

Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm
box4m wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:12 am
edit: i tried it and seems like it created single layer hmm, is it "correct" or dvdfabmethod?
correct. the shield has its own weird color and stutter bugs etc, but all the dv info is retained. comparing the disc to the .ts on x700 is identical.
darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:30 am

How did you achieved that? Do I need to tweak settings somewhere in tsMuxer? I used w64-nightly-2020-04-19--02-12-02 and tried to generate a dv .ts, with those settings:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZTYpgK ... sp=sharing

But what came out is (no dv detected):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/103ylhd ... sp=sharing

What am I doing wrong?
try using tsmuxer(4.06 fix).rar from a few pages ago
4knewbie wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:26 am
Does anyone know why some movies have a very light DV layer (usually under 100MB) and some others have a much larger one (~5-7 GB) ?
Yea, that's MEL vs FEL (minimal vs full enhancement layer). mel carries just the rpu metadata where fel carries the full 12-bit info (debatable if needed as nothing is 12 bit yet).
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:07 pm
So, I tried Saving Private Ryan with last MakeMKV, muxing with tsMuxer (profile 6 and 4). With 6 no video, only audio. With 4 same "blinking" effect both on Plex and MX Player, I really think it's a Shield issue.
you're using both latest apps? the latest plex beta breaks dv, so you need to use the version just before it.
where exacly? i can't find the tsmuxer 4.06 fix? what are the steps to do that with tsmuxer?
Sgt Hartman
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Sgt Hartman »

shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:17 pm
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:36 pm
Grencola wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm

you're using both latest apps? the latest plex beta breaks dv, so you need to use the version just before it.
I used the latest official versions, about Plex both old and new exoplayer, same result. It's just that movie, for the others seems to work fine.
this is related to what I wrote here:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&start=2205#p88273
Yep, that's right! I just would like to figure out a way to address this issue with that specific movie, it's just the only element of disturb so far.
jayper
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jayper »

shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:39 am
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:54 am
Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:16 pm

My tool is obsolete. it made a profile 7 dv mp4 with lossy ac3 audio from a .m2ts file to play on x700 etc. but now you can just throw that m2ts straight into tsmuxer and make a dv .ts file with lossless audio + atmos.
Just to clarify it, the steps include yusecope's tool to create a DV track, correct?
nope, the x700 is capable of playing the DV tracks as is. Just need to remux it in a ts container.
I've remuxed (TsMuxer 4.06 fix) MKVs created with MakeMKV 1.15.1 and I have not been able to get them to play on the Sony x700. I have tried via a USB drive, and via the DLNA player (Plex) and I have gotten a black screen in both cases. I have tried two separate Vision movies and it is the same experience both times. Anyone have luck?
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

jayper wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:57 pm
I've remuxed (TsMuxer 4.06 fix) MKVs created with MakeMKV 1.15.1 and I have not been able to get them to play on the Sony x700. I have tried via a USB drive, and via the DLNA player (Plex) and I have gotten a black screen in both cases. I have tried two separate Vision movies and it is the same experience both times. Anyone have luck?
on the x700, only the MEL(small layer) DV movies will work using that method.
Just remux directly your uhd-bd to dual layer TS with atmos and subtitles. No need of makemkv with the x700
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