Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12
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Grencola wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:10 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm
I tried ts remuxing it but same thing. The file refuses to play. Could you show me the steps how you do it?
I think it's your tv, bud. I 'tested' it (I have Disney+) on the firestick 4k and it plays in mx player and it looks great, but stutters due to mx player's lack of frame rate switching :?
What tv do you have?
deadchip12
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:03 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm
Could you show me the steps how you do it?
Nothing special, I just added the mp4 and subtitles into tsmuxer.
But i read on the doom9 forum that someone else with a C9 struggle playing the TS sample file from the mandalorian. Another user with a C6 said there was no issue playing it.
So since my c8 also work, it sounds like something is different on the C9 internal player

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1906702
yeah I downloaded that TS sample file and it refused to play on my C9. On your C8 it plays fine? Are you able to skip to other points in the film?
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deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:15 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:03 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm
Could you show me the steps how you do it?
Nothing special, I just added the mp4 and subtitles into tsmuxer.
But i read on the doom9 forum that someone else with a C9 struggle playing the TS sample file from the mandalorian. Another user with a C6 said there was no issue playing it.
So since my c8 also work, it sounds like something is different on the C9 internal player

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1906702
yeah I downloaded that TS sample file and it refused to play on my C9. On your C8 it plays fine? Are you able to skip to other points in the film?
I tryed the Mandolorian 05.06 BL+RPU sample on C7, it plays fine and i m able to skip to other points in the sample.
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deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:15 am
On your C8 it plays fine? Are you able to skip to other points in the film?
yep
Sorry for my English.
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deadchip12
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:09 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:15 am
On your C8 it plays fine? Are you able to skip to other points in the film?
yep
Sigh...lg what did you do
Grencola
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deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:41 am
Grencola wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:10 am
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:21 pm
I tried ts remuxing it but same thing. The file refuses to play. Could you show me the steps how you do it?
I think it's your tv, bud. I 'tested' it (I have Disney+) on the firestick 4k and it plays in mx player and it looks great, but stutters due to mx player's lack of frame rate switching :?
What tv do you have?
The Firestick 4k is an external device so my TV doesn't matter, but fwiw it's a Vizio PX75-G1.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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So if I understand correctly profile 05 is like BL + RPU (only metadata) which is expected due to bandwidth constraints.

So is that the same as a Blu-Ray MEL release where the enhanced layer only contains metadata?

If yes then wouldn't it be better to just convert all the MEL Blu-ray movies with yusesope's tool in mode 2 (BL+RPU).

Then BL+EL+RPU (mode 1) is only required for remuxing DV enabled Blu-ray movies with a full enhancement layer.
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MastaG wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:40 pm
So if I understand correctly profile 05 is like BL + RPU (only metadata) which is expected due to bandwidth constraints.

So is that the same as a Blu-Ray MEL release where the enhanced layer only contains metadata?

If yes then wouldn't it be better to just convert all the MEL Blu-ray movies with yusesope's tool in mode 2 (BL+RPU).

Then BL+EL+RPU (mode 1) is only required for remuxing DV enabled Blu-ray movies with a full enhancement layer.
It makes sense what you are saying. Profile 5 is the best solution for disks with MEL only. The only slight issue with Profile 5 is the unspecified color space, which is not specified by the Dolby Vision Labs. In other words, the colors may appear a little different. But I don't care since Profile 5 created with DVDFab and yusescope's tool are way better, and archive better contrast than regular HDR10, it's like HDR10+.

I don't believe FEL delivers better visual results with its 12-bit properties ( IMO ); all consumer displays struggle to handle the 10-bit color anyway.
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Grencola wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:30 am
kazuma wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:30 pm
a noob question:

what is the fastest/easiest way to convert a dts-hd sound file to ac3? which program needed?
download eac3to: https://www.videohelp.com/download/eac3to334.zip

extract it to your dts folder

run a cmd prompt from there

type:

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eac3to.exe input.dts output.ac3 -libav
thnx, can we do the samething with atmos audio to ac3 with this program?
darrrkmanxxx
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Post by darrrkmanxxx »

guys, sorry for the question, but where can I download the Yusesope tool? I searched no for an hour and didn't find a link
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by ATD555 »

darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:06 pm
guys, sorry for the question, but where can I download the Yusesope tool? I searched no for an hour and didn't find a link
HERE you go
Grencola
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kazuma wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:50 pm
thnx, can we do the samething with atmos audio to ac3 with this program?
yep. for atmos with ac3 (raw bluray):

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eac3to input.thd+ac3 output.ac3 -core
for atmos with no ac3 (mkv rip etc):

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eac3to input.thd output.ac3 -core
MastaG
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mulucy wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:35 pm
MastaG wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:40 pm
So if I understand correctly profile 05 is like BL + RPU (only metadata) which is expected due to bandwidth constraints.

So is that the same as a Blu-Ray MEL release where the enhanced layer only contains metadata?

If yes then wouldn't it be better to just convert all the MEL Blu-ray movies with yusesope's tool in mode 2 (BL+RPU).

Then BL+EL+RPU (mode 1) is only required for remuxing DV enabled Blu-ray movies with a full enhancement layer.
It makes sense what you are saying. Profile 5 is the best solution for disks with MEL only. The only slight issue with Profile 5 is the unspecified color space, which is not specified by the Dolby Vision Labs. In other words, the colors may appear a little different. But I don't care since Profile 5 created with DVDFab and yusescope's tool are way better, and archive better contrast than regular HDR10, it's like HDR10+.

I don't believe FEL delivers better visual results with its 12-bit properties ( IMO ); all consumer displays struggle to handle the 10-bit color anyway.
Yeah that's what I'm wondering about too.
I can see a big difference between HDR10 and DV with metadata only.

However I've been standing really close to my TV to see if I can spot differences between metadata only and FEL.

Also what bothers me is that my C8 has trouble playing some FEL movies like Gemini Man and 1917.

So I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea to get an Nvidia Shield so I can enjoy FEL or just stick with mode 2 BL+RPU for all movies.

Can anybody comment on the video quality of the Shield vs the LG native player when it comes to DV?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mulucy »

MastaG wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:18 pm
mulucy wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:35 pm
MastaG wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:40 pm
So if I understand correctly profile 05 is like BL + RPU (only metadata) which is expected due to bandwidth constraints.

So is that the same as a Blu-Ray MEL release where the enhanced layer only contains metadata?

If yes then wouldn't it be better to just convert all the MEL Blu-ray movies with yusesope's tool in mode 2 (BL+RPU).

Then BL+EL+RPU (mode 1) is only required for remuxing DV enabled Blu-ray movies with a full enhancement layer.
It makes sense what you are saying. Profile 5 is the best solution for disks with MEL only. The only slight issue with Profile 5 is the unspecified color space, which is not specified by the Dolby Vision Labs. In other words, the colors may appear a little different. But I don't care since Profile 5 created with DVDFab and yusescope's tool are way better, and archive better contrast than regular HDR10, it's like HDR10+.

I don't believe FEL delivers better visual results with its 12-bit properties ( IMO ); all consumer displays struggle to handle the 10-bit color anyway.
Yeah that's what I'm wondering about too.
I can see a big difference between HDR10 and DV with metadata only.

However I've been standing really close to my TV to see if I can spot differences between metadata only and FEL.

Also what bothers me is that my C8 has trouble playing some FEL movies like Gemini Man and 1917.

So I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea to get an Nvidia Shield so I can enjoy FEL or just stick with mode 2 BL+RPU for all movies.

Can anybody comment on the video quality of the Shield vs the LG native player when it comes to DV?
AFAIK, Nvidia Shield at least have two issues.
1. It does not support DV videos over 24FPS
2. It has some color issues in DV with red color.

I am sure the problems listed above can be corrected via OTA updates.

I prefer Apple TV 4K combined with Infuse Pro since I don't own a fancy speaker system with lossless audio support.
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mulucy wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:39 pm
MastaG wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:18 pm
mulucy wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:35 pm


It makes sense what you are saying. Profile 5 is the best solution for disks with MEL only. The only slight issue with Profile 5 is the unspecified color space, which is not specified by the Dolby Vision Labs. In other words, the colors may appear a little different. But I don't care since Profile 5 created with DVDFab and yusescope's tool are way better, and archive better contrast than regular HDR10, it's like HDR10+.

I don't believe FEL delivers better visual results with its 12-bit properties ( IMO ); all consumer displays struggle to handle the 10-bit color anyway.
Yeah that's what I'm wondering about too.
I can see a big difference between HDR10 and DV with metadata only.

However I've been standing really close to my TV to see if I can spot differences between metadata only and FEL.

Also what bothers me is that my C8 has trouble playing some FEL movies like Gemini Man and 1917.

So I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea to get an Nvidia Shield so I can enjoy FEL or just stick with mode 2 BL+RPU for all movies.

Can anybody comment on the video quality of the Shield vs the LG native player when it comes to DV?
AFAIK, Nvidia Shield at least have two issues.
1. It does not support DV videos over 24FPS
2. It has some color issues in DV with red color.

I am sure the problems listed above can be corrected via OTA updates.

I prefer Apple TV 4K combined with Infuse Pro since I don't own a fancy speaker system with lossless audio support.
Crap so the Shield has its flaws too, I can live with the 24FPS limit since only a few movies are HFR.

The color issue I didn't know about..

Well I don't need lossless audio either.
It's only too bad I can only send up to DD+ with Atmos over regular ARC and most Blu-ray discs only offer TrueHD or DTS-HD MA with and no DD+.

While the TrueHD does have DD5.1 core.. it's not as good as DD+ which supports up to 7.1
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