Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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MartyMcNuts
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by MartyMcNuts »

DaMacFunkin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:31 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:07 am
I was thinking about the stuttering issues people were having with Gemini Man and whether the combination of high frame rate and high bitrate is the cause, so here are some 30 sec sample files (video only, no audio) to see if the stutter issues changes at all. I have re-encoded the base layer to lower the overall bitrate but none of my equipment supports Dolby Vision, so I am unable to test them myself. Anyway, here are the test files.

Feel free to give them a go and report back.

.ts files:
DV_07.09 - https://www.mediafire.com/file/2b8zlvk5 ... s.zip/file
BL+EL+RPU DV_06.09 - https://www.mediafire.com/file/my4qmuh8 ... s.zip/file

.m2ts files:
DV_07.09 - https://www.mediafire.com/file/v2e6nkzc ... s.zip/file
BL+EL+RPU DV_06.09 - https://www.mediafire.com/file/sff991s5 ... s.zip/file
Didn’t think you could re-encode the base layer as it either loses the DV descriptors or doesn’t Mux back in correctly, is this not the case?
I don't know for sure as I my TV doesn't support DV. The re-encoded BL worked ok in yusesope's tool, so I assume it has everything it needed. That's why it I uploaded the files for testing.
Cheers :D
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Vertigo86u2
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Vertigo86u2 »

Hi everyone

I recently tried to rip few UHD BD with DVDFAB to mp4 dual layer DV with lossy audio and they playback fine on my LG E9 Plex app.
I'm willing to buy a Sony AG9 and i'm askimg if anybody with a Sony Android TV tried to playback these kind of file with Sony Tv Plex App or i need to re-rip movies in Single Layer DV Mp4 using DvdFab?

Wait for feedbacks

Thanks
MartyMcNuts
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by MartyMcNuts »

Vertigo86u2 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:21 am
Hi everyone

I recently tried to rip few UHD BD with DVDFAB to mp4 dual layer DV with lossy audio and they playback fine on my LG E9 Plex app.
I'm willing to buy a Sony AG9 and i'm askimg if anybody with a Sony Android TV tried to playback these kind of file with Sony Tv Plex App or i need to re-rip movies in Single Layer DV Mp4 using DvdFab?

Wait for feedbacks

Thanks
Try asking over at the dvdfab forum.
Cheers :D
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Vertigo86u2
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Vertigo86u2 »

Thank you MartyMcNuts

Yes i'll search on DVDFAB forum also but the question is if someone with an Android TV Sony has succeed to playback a dual layer DV mp4 muxed ( with DVDFAB or with mp4muxer also) with Plex app on such TV.

Thanks
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mike admin »

Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mulucy »

mike admin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:41 am
Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
I was also curious why some were using MakeMKV to use it later with TS muxes for Atmos tracks. AFAIK, MKV should be able to preserve the ATMOS/DTS-X with lossless audio and DV at this point, correct?
SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by SamuriHL »

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 pm
mike admin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:41 am
Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
I was also curious why some were using MakeMKV to use it later with TS muxes for Atmos tracks. AFAIK, MKV should be able to preserve the ATMOS/DTS-X with lossless audio and DV at this point, correct?
It can but nothing will currently play the MKV's. So we're remuxing them with TSMuxer to TS so that we can play them on other devices like the SHIELD Pro 2019 in Plex. At least, that's what I'm doing.
cipher
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by cipher »

mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 pm
mike admin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:41 am
Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
I was also curious why some were using MakeMKV to use it later with TS muxes for Atmos tracks. AFAIK, MKV should be able to preserve the ATMOS/DTS-X with lossless audio and DV at this point, correct?
Yep, this is the current solution. However, now that 1.15.1 is out we're waiting for the other shoe to drop where certain software players (Plex etc) update their code to natively handle these files. Once that happens it will greatly simplify our DV UHD backup process.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Hanto »

Hello my friends.

Excuse my poor English, I'm French

I have read all 144 pages and still have same problem : my TV play well .mp4 DV but not my .ts of the same source.

Source is Alita DV teaser demo.mp4 and my TV don't play it.
So, I've demuxed BL.hevc and EL.hevc then remuxed in .mp4 forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer and this one play fine on my tv. (EL : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible)

I also tried with yusescope V3 rev1 tool then remuxed in .mp4 forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer and this one play fine too. (Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible)
Works fine with forced DV Profile 5 too, but not in yusescope V3 rev1 tool -mode 2 : Black screen

But file .ts made with tsmuxer with the same BL and EL don't work on my TV. (Video format not supported)
I don't understand. I've tried lot of tsmuxer version (edited,04.06 fix, patched, nightly...)
I don't understand because I've a lot of LG DV demo .ts (dvhe.04.06 BL+EL+RPU) that work on my TV.
For .mp4 files only DV Profile 4 and 5 can work, not 7 or 8. Can't try Profile 6 don't have found the good mp4muxer for.
And for .ts files made with tsmuxer, none of them work, and I can't have dvhe 04.06 with dual layer, only 07.05.

If anyone know what's the problem and help please ?
Thank you a lot guys


Source Dual Layer .mp4 DV Profile 7 : doesn't work

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Général
Nom complet                              : E:\Alita Original.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 277 Mio
Durée                                    : 40s 97 ms
Débit global moyen                       : 57,9 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 55,2 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.277
Taille du flux                           : 264 Mio (95%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : dvhe
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 2 120 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.043
Taille du flux                           : 10,1 Mio (4%)
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Nom commercial                           : Dolby Digital
Identifiant du codec                     : ac-3
Durée                                    : 40s 97 ms
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 640 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 6 canaux
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde                       : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Taille du flux                           : 3,06 Mio (1%)
Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57

Dual Layer MP4 Forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer : Works

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Nom complet                              : E:\DLP4.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 274 Mio
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit global moyen                       : 57,3 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 55,2 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.277
Taille du flux                           : 264 Mio (96%)
Default                                  : Oui
Alternate group                          : 1
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 2 120 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.043
Taille du flux                           : 10,1 Mio (4%)
Default                                  : Non
Alternate group                          : 1
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Single Layer MP4 Forced DV Profile 4 with yusescope V3 rev1 tool mp4muxer : Works and DV Profile 5 works too.

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Général
Nom complet                              : E:\P4.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 274 Mio
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit global moyen                       : 57,3 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14

Vidéo
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 57,3 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.288
Taille du flux                           : 274 Mio (100%)
Default                                  : Oui
Alternate group                          : 1
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC+hvcE

Single Layer .ts Profile 4 (dvhe 04 06) : Doesn't work

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Général
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet                              : E:\P4.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier                        : 280 Mio
Durée                                    : 39s 957 ms
Type de débit global                     : Variable
Débit global moyen                       : 58,6 Mb/s
Débit global maximum                     : 35,5 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
ID de menu                               : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 40s 40 ms
Débit                                    : 55,7 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.280
Taille du flux                           : 266 Mio (95%)
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Dual layer DV Profile 7 : Doesn't work, can't have DV Profile 4

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Général
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet                              : E:\P4DL.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier                        : 280 Mio
Durée                                    : 39s 957 ms
Type de débit global                     : Variable
Débit global moyen                       : 58,6 Mb/s
Débit global maximum                     : 35,5 Mb/s

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
ID de menu                               : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 40s 40 ms
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
ID de menu                               : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.05, EL+RPU, 8 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 40s 40 ms
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

LG DV demo .ts Profile 4 : Works

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ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet                              : E:\LG Dolby Trailer 4K Demo.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier                        : 308 Mio
Durée                                    : 1 min 20s
Type de débit global                     : Constant
Débit global moyen                       : 31,9 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID                                       : 33 (0x21)
ID de menu                               : 2 (0x2)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5@Main
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 1 min 19s
Débit                                    : 29,6 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.149
Taille du flux                           : 282 Mio (92%)

Audio
ID                                       : 35 (0x23)
ID de menu                               : 2 (0x2)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Nom commercial                           : Dolby Digital Plus
Identifiant du codec                     : 135
Durée                                    : 1 min 20s
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 768 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 6 canaux
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde                       : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Délai par rapport Vidéo                  : -948 ms
Taille du flux                           : 7,41 Mio (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

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box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by box4m »

Vertigo86u2 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:17 am
Thank you MartyMcNuts

Yes i'll search on DVDFAB forum also but the question is if someone with an Android TV Sony has succeed to playback a dual layer DV mp4 muxed ( with DVDFAB or with mp4muxer also) with Plex app on such TV.

Thanks
You will need single layer ye
DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DaMacFunkin »

SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:21 pm
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 pm
mike admin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:41 am
Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
I was also curious why some were using MakeMKV to use it later with TS muxes for Atmos tracks. AFAIK, MKV should be able to preserve the ATMOS/DTS-X with lossless audio and DV at this point, correct?
It can but nothing will currently play the MKV's. So we're remuxing them with TSMuxer to TS so that we can play them on other devices like the SHIELD Pro 2019 in Plex. At least, that's what I'm doing.
In MKV is it possible to retain ac3 core in Atmos for greater compatabillity?
SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by SamuriHL »

DaMacFunkin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:18 pm

In MKV is it possible to retain ac3 core in Atmos for greater compatabillity?
Mike said that's already being done. It's creating an interleaved thd/ac3 track in the MKV. It's just that at the moment tsmuxer doesn't recognize it when we try to remux, but, in the MKV, it's there.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 »

Does anyone watch dolby vision remuxes on oled and notice some kind of distortion line running continously across the screen during dark scenes? It’s almost like this: https://youtu.be/eJmicmxGdkM (go to 0:29 mark) but way darker and noticeable in a pitch dark room. Yesterday I watched 1917 and this was very evident during dark scenes. I remember seeing the same issue in some other films as well. Is it caused by the remux, the oled or the film itself?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Does anyone watch dolby vision remuxes on oled and notice some kind of distortion line running continously across the screen during dark scenes? It’s almost like this: https://youtu.be/eJmicmxGdkM (go to 0:29 mark) but way darker and noticeable in a pitch dark room. Yesterday I watched 1917 and this was very evident during dark scenes. I remember seeing the same issue in some other films as well. Is it caused by the remux, the oled or the film itself?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Mike said that's already being done. It's creating an interleaved thd/ac3 track in the MKV. It's just that at the moment tsmuxer doesn't recognize it when we try to remux, but, in the MKV, it's there.
No, I was wrong, or rather I didn't mean it that way. If you extract both TrueHD plus eac3 core, you get two separate tracks in MKV. If TrueHD only - then you get TrueHD only (with Atmos metadata if it was there).
If you want to retain eac3 core, then you have to select it.

What I'm saying, that there is no need for tsmuxer to require eac3 core to begin with. In the worst case, if a 100% compatibility is required, one could always "create" eac3 core from TrueHD, with ffmpeg or any other tool. That core will not have Atmos metadata, but it is discarded by decoder anyway.

There is fundamental differecnce between DTS-HD and TrueHD.
In DTS, the HD layer is extension, you need to have core+hd extension to decode audio.
TrueHD is self-contained codec, eac3 is present on blu-ray only as a fallback. You can mux in a silent eac3 track or leave it empty -- providing you have setup for TrueHD, the player would discard eac3 stream and use TrueHD part only.

So, to preserve the full compatibility one just have to check both streams - truehd and eac3. As for re-encoding to m2ts, MakeMKV uses a tag called a "source id" (now picked up by mediainfo and other software). If two tracks in MKV file have the same source id, then it means that these tracks come from the same source track and have the same content in different encoding. There is nothing that prevents tsmuxer (or any other tool) to recognize two separate tracks this way and join them together. This is what I meant by tsmuxer limitation.
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