Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Sgt Hartman
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badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:34 pm

yes , I have tried it today.
I also tried 1917 with profile 6 on Shield (using Plex) and seemed to work more or less fine (even if my eye still notice some lack of fluidity in the playback). What did you use?
badrobot
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Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:08 pm
badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:34 pm

yes , I have tried it today.
I also tried 1917 with profile 6 on Shield (using Plex) and seemed to work more or less fine (even if my eye still notice some lack of fluidity in the playback). What did you use?
Same, shield tv pro with plex app.

profile 6 is out of official guarantee.
shield supports profile 4,5,8
I am not a native English speaker.
Sorry for my bad English.
shawnc22
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Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:08 pm
badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:34 pm

yes , I have tried it today.
I also tried 1917 with profile 6 on Shield (using Plex) and seemed to work more or less fine (even if my eye still notice some lack of fluidity in the playback). What did you use?
did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
jcdr428
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badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:07 pm
that’s not good for me, because shield tv pro 2019 does not support DoVi Profile 6.

Dovi Profile 6 has been deprecated by dolby.
@badrobot It's already been confirmed that Profile 6 is working on Shield. In any case BL+EL+RPU HDR10 tracks are profile 6 according to Dolby, we just can't have tsMuxer produce non-compliant files with incorrect profile simply because one STB would not accept a profile.
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Post by Angryunibrow »

shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:08 pm
badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:34 pm

yes , I have tried it today.
I also tried 1917 with profile 6 on Shield (using Plex) and seemed to work more or less fine (even if my eye still notice some lack of fluidity in the playback). What did you use?
did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
May I ask how you are verifying if the new vs old player in Plex is matching frame rate?
jcdr428
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Post by jcdr428 »

badrobot wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:21 pm
profile 6 is out of official guarantee.
shield supports profile 4,5,8
Edit: And profile 8 will also be deprecated very soon. Dolby is cutting all compatibility with HDR10 in favour of proprietary IPT colourspace. This does not mean that these profiles are "out of official guarantee". As far as I know, all SoC reading profile 5 also read profile 8, and all SoC reading profile 4 also read profile 6 as they have similar RPU structure.
shawnc22
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Angryunibrow wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:43 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm
Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:08 pm


I also tried 1917 with profile 6 on Shield (using Plex) and seemed to work more or less fine (even if my eye still notice some lack of fluidity in the playback). What did you use?
did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
May I ask how you are verifying if the new vs old player in Plex is matching frame rate?
Sure, if you have a Denon AVR, you can download the companion smartphone app and look at the input signal info. With the exoplayer, I was constantly getting 4k:60hz even when I had match frame rate turned on. Once I reverted back to the old player, it was back to playing at 4k:24hz. Another option is to look at the LG service menu during video playback. You can find more info on how to access it here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled- ... st58698658
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shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:54 pm
Angryunibrow wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:43 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm


did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
May I ask how you are verifying if the new vs old player in Plex is matching frame rate?
Sure, if you have a Denon AVR, you can download the companion smartphone app and look at the input signal info. With the exoplayer, I was constantly getting 4k:60hz even when I had match frame rate turned on. Once I reverted back to the old player, it was back to playing at 4k:24hz. Another option is to look at the LG service menu during video playback. You can find more info on how to access it here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled- ... st58698658
Awesome
I do not have a Denon receiver, but I sure will check out the hidden menu on my TV when I get home - thanks for this!
Sgt Hartman
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shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm
did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
It was already off, I tried also with the old player but I still get such effect. It doesn't occur always at the same point of the movie so it might be that it's a player issue. I'd like to test it with another player but I don't know any other able to read DV on Shield.
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kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 pm
what's the difference between all profiles? (5,6,7?)
nobody?
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kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:54 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 pm
what's the difference between all profiles? (5,6,7?)
nobody?
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dolby+vision+profiles
mulucy
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Post by mulucy »

Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:57 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:54 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 pm
what's the difference between all profiles? (5,6,7?)
nobody?
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dolby+vision+profiles
That question has been probably asked at least 50-60 times before including me lol
shawnc22
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Sgt Hartman wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:29 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm
did you turn on frame rate matching in the plex settings? I've also noticed that frame rate matching sometimes doesnt work with the new exoplayer, and I eventually had to revert back to the old plex player to get it working.
It was already off, I tried also with the old player but I still get such effect. It doesn't occur always at the same point of the movie so it might be that it's a player issue. I'd like to test it with another player but I don't know any other able to read DV on Shield.
No, you have to try turning it on to see if it helps with the hitchy playback. I did notice the intro title screen was having some slight stutters when using exoplayer with the matching frame option on (not working properly though when checked, avr still showed 4k:60hz). When I switched to the old player with the option still turned on, the hitch went away and my avr was properly reporting 4k:24hz.
kazuma
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Post by kazuma »

mulucy wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:02 pm
Grencola wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:57 pm
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:54 pm

nobody?
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dolby+vision+profiles
That question has been probably asked at least 50-60 times before including me lol
maybe you can tell me? the google link is to general. when i search for it in the topic i have 30 pages.. :(
Sgt Hartman
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shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:08 pm
No, you have to try turning it on to see if it helps with the hitchy playback. I did notice the intro title screen was having some slight stutters when using exoplayer with the matching frame option on (not working properly though when checked, avr still showed 4k:60hz). When I switched to the old player with the option still turned on, the hitch went away and my avr was properly reporting 4k:24hz.
Dude,
You really gave me some nice hints in here, this could be a real game changer for me. I tried all the combinations you listed and, as you said, old exoplayer + refresh rate switching on is definitely the winner. Before all playing was set on 60 Hz, but in this way going "down" to 24 Hz it was really smooth!
One other thing that I noticed in these days, closing/re-opening Plex to play files seems to help in having smoother playbacks, keeping the app always on seems to affect the quality of the view.
Thanks again pal!
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