Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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daddy wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:44 am
note: Geminy Man DV track is MEL (3%) and can't be play in DV on LG without stutter.
Gemini Man DV is FEL

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 80973 kbps 2160p / 59.940 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 2683 kbps (3.21%) 1080p / 59.940 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020
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DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:38 pm My mp4 mux of Gemini man with ac3 audio has always played fine on my C9 via internal Plex app, Plex server is hosted on shield 2019 pro on same local network.
You need to turn of all internal processing on your TV for DV 60fps.
I'll try to disable processing on my TV then.
To be honest I never changed a single thing apart from the OLED brightness, since it's far too bright when watching TV at night.
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DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:38 pm My mp4 mux of Gemini man with ac3 audio has always played fine on my C9 via internal Plex app, Plex server is hosted on shield 2019 pro on same local network.
You need to turn of all internal processing on your TV for DV 60fps.
Maybe Plex or Shield can handle Gemini man but the tv’s internal player can’t. I turned everything off but it never looks like true 60 fps.
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deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:10 am
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:38 pm My mp4 mux of Gemini man with ac3 audio has always played fine on my C9 via internal Plex app, Plex server is hosted on shield 2019 pro on same local network.
You need to turn of all internal processing on your TV for DV 60fps.
Maybe Plex or Shield can handle Gemini man but the tv’s internal player can’t. I turned everything off but it never looks like true 60 fps.
Created Dual layer [BL+EL+RPU] With AC3 audio Gemini Man in MP4 container using DVDFab , it plays fine on my B9 internal player through usb with 60fps.
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deadchip12 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:10 am
DaMacFunkin wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:38 pm My mp4 mux of Gemini man with ac3 audio has always played fine on my C9 via internal Plex app, Plex server is hosted on shield 2019 pro on same local network.
You need to turn of all internal processing on your TV for DV 60fps.
Maybe Plex or Shield can handle Gemini man but the tv’s internal player can’t. I turned everything off but it never looks like true 60 fps.
My personal opinion of 60fps is why????
I sat watching the film and turned it off, it just looked like ‘soap opera’ it was just too smooth and TV like.
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Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
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tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:56 am Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
I make DV MP4 from remuxed .mkv all the time and it works fine on my c9. I no longer use the .m2ts structure because for some films the main video is split into multiple files.
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deadchip12 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:22 am
tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:56 am Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
I make DV MP4 from remuxed .mkv all the time and it works fine on my c9. I no longer use the .m2ts structure because for some films the main video is split into multiple files.
Could you walk me through your process? Perhaps I'm coming at it wrong.
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tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
I finally realized that with my TV (Vizio PX 75) the only time mkv to mp4 doesn't work is when I try certain FEL dv track movies. I've used my tool (dv-mp4-maker) on countless movies and it seems the really high bitrate FEL ones (>5mbps) just skip dv altogether yet still play fine as hdr10. I haven't had an issue with MEL at all. Not sure if this is your situation, but it's worth a check.
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tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:22 am
tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:56 am Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
I make DV MP4 from remuxed .mkv all the time and it works fine on my c9. I no longer use the .m2ts structure because for some films the main video is split into multiple files.
Could you walk me through your process? Perhaps I'm coming at it wrong.
I just followed the exact steps stated in the original post, except instead of .m2ts file I use .mkv remux. Oh and 1 more thing: I don't include the ac3 audio in the demuxing, just the 2 video layers, but I'm not sure if that matters.
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deadchip12 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:08 pm
tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am
deadchip12 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:22 am
I make DV MP4 from remuxed .mkv all the time and it works fine on my c9. I no longer use the .m2ts structure because for some films the main video is split into multiple files.
Could you walk me through your process? Perhaps I'm coming at it wrong.
I just followed the exact steps stated in the original post, except instead of .m2ts file I use .mkv remux. Oh and 1 more thing: I don't include the ac3 audio in the demuxing, just the 2 video layers, but I'm not sure if that matters.
must be down to my TV then. I have a TCL.
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Grencola wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:24 pm
tr000 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am Has anyone had success creating a DV MP4 from a remuxed .mkv? I demux the video streams and AC3 audio from the .mkv, put it through mp4muxer, and it runs fine. However, on my TV, it's just a black screen. The raw .m2ts, however, will work fine. Any ideas?
I finally realized that with my TV (Vizio PX 75) the only time mkv to mp4 doesn't work is when I try certain FEL dv track movies. I've used my tool (dv-mp4-maker) on countless movies and it seems the really high bitrate FEL ones (>5mbps) just skip dv altogether yet still play fine as hdr10. I haven't had an issue with MEL at all. Not sure if this is your situation, but it's worth a check.
Hey Grencola, I use your tool very frequently as well, thanks for all your work on it.

However, there have been times where the tool has produced errors where manual demuxing with TSMuxer and putting it through MP4muxer has worked. For example, with 1917, the tool kept putting out only a 30 minute file for whatever reason. But the file I manually made worked.

I don't think we are having the same issues. For one, I use Profile 5 because my TV doesn't support other profiles afaik. Second, I have tried turning the .mkv and raw BluRay of the same movie, Transformers for example, and only the mp4 made from the Blu-ray m2ts worked on my TV, the one from the mkv remux didn't play. No idea what the issue could be, but my TV just won't play mp4s made from a remux.
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When you guys are talking about ripping the EL track out of mkv remuxes, I'm guessing you guys used something other than makemkv (e.g. mkvtoolnix?) to make the initial mkv? It's just that I've never seen the EL track being listed when opening a DV disk in makemkv, and all of the mkvs I've made with mkv only has one video track (unless I'm doing something wrong).
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Hello everyone, my first ever 4k TV (LG C9) is coming this week and I wanted to prepare some DV movies to be ready when it arrives.
However I just can't seem to get mp4base working. I'm using Windows 10 x64 on both my pcs and I've been trying many things for the past 2 days but nothing has worked, I've tried to build the solution for windows x86 and amd64 on VS 10 SP1 and every other version of VS that has come out since then on both of my pcs and I always get the exact same error "Invalid solution configuration"
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only thing to do before being able to run the soft is to build it by going to its directory and writing the devenv line, right ?

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Thank you very kindly for your help
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shawnc22 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 pm When you guys are talking about ripping the EL track out of mkv remuxes, I'm guessing you guys used something other than makemkv (e.g. mkvtoolnix?) to make the initial mkv? It's just that I've never seen the EL track being listed when opening a DV disk in makemkv, and all of the mkvs I've made with mkv only has one video track (unless I'm doing something wrong).
You are only getting HDR10/HDR10+ out of DV UHD disc if you open them with MakeMKV.

DV UHD disc has two video tracks, standard 4K HEVC with HDR10/HDR10+ and a 1080p HEVC called EL (enhancement layer).

Because .mkv has no defined way of storing DV MakeMKV will not touch the EL. So every .mkv generated from DV disc with MakeMKV will be HDR10/HDR10+ only. Everything you see here is people making a completed disc backup then mux it into .mp4, .ts, or .m2ts under different DV profiles.
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