Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Putting a couple sample mediainfos here for reference in regards to prof 7 files (all made with joker sample tracks):

-Made with mp4muxer. Reported working on LG C# internal players

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Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 23 s 773 ms
Bit rate                                 : 32.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.162
Stream size                              : 91.5 MiB (100%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 120 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 23 s 773 ms
Bit rate                                 : 64.1 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.001
Stream size                              : 186 KiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC
-Made with bb51a5f build of tsmuxer

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Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 23 s 648 ms
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 120 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 23 s 648 ms
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Have you tried build bb51a5f to see if that makes a difference since it looks like it's no longer being labeled as 07.05? If still the same result, could the issue be caused by the BL track in the TS file having the DV tag while the mp4 file does not?
Last edited by shawnc22 on Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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jcdr428
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jcdr428 »

Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:22 pm
 I made the comment that tsmuxer was assigning profile 7.05, while mp4muxer was profile 7.06 - I do not know if that matters.
@Angryunibrow it should be 7.06... I'll fix it. However the level is only related to pixel rate, marking 7.05 does not make any difference if your SoC can play 7.06 pixel rates. The most obvious reason why the TS plays on Blu-ray players only is the HDMV (Blu-ray) descriptors. Standard ETSI descriptors might allow DV but would remove compatibility with PGS, ac3/eac3 and ac3/TrueHD.
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Angryunibrow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Angryunibrow »

jcdr428 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm
Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:22 pm
 I made the comment that tsmuxer was assigning profile 7.05, while mp4muxer was profile 7.06 - I do not know if that matters.
@Angryunibrow it should be 7.06... I'll fix it. However the level is only related to pixel rate, marking 7.05 does not make any difference if your SoC can play 7.06 pixel rates. The most obvious reason why the TS plays on Blu-ray players only is the HDMV (Blu-ray) descriptors. Standard ETSI descriptors might allow DV but would remove compatibility with PGS, ac3/eac3 and ac3/TrueHD.
That's right I remember you mentioning that.
Oh well, can't have it all I guess.
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MastaG
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by MastaG »

shawnc22 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:43 pm
 Putting a couple sample mediainfos here for reference in regards to prof 7 files (all made with joker sample tracks):

-Made with mp4muxer. Reported working on LG C# internal players

Code: Select all

Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 23 s 773 ms
Bit rate                                 : 32.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.162
Stream size                              : 91.5 MiB (100%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 120 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 23 s 773 ms
Bit rate                                 : 64.1 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.001
Stream size                              : 186 KiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-23 23:05:44
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC
-Made with bb51a5f build of tsmuxer

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Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 23 s 648 ms
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 120 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 23 s 648 ms
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Have you tried build bb51a5f to see if that makes a difference since it looks like it's no longer being labeled as 07.05? If still the same result, could the issue be caused by the BL track in the TS file having the DV tag while the mp4 file does not?
So if I understand correctly we still didn't get single track video with full EL layer (profiel 04 or 06) to work on LG C# without stuttering?
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kazekami20
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Hi! Can anyone explain the correct steps for the Nvidia Shield 2019 whith lg C9?
Many thanks!
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oldirtydog
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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kazekami20 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:53 am
 Hi! Can anyone explain the correct steps for the Nvidia Shield 2019 whith lg C9?
Many thanks!
And please tell the all steps :) i have a C9 and think to buy panasonic ub4500 with Atmos and Dolby Vision,to play with Vision because on my PC only HDR...and the C9 not playing losseles audio...
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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MastaG wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 am
 So if I understand correctly we still didn't get single track video with full EL layer (profiel 04 or 06) to work on LG C# without stuttering?
Correct, that is my understanding as well from the latest tests we have done.
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Maxoumax6
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Does the profil change the DV's "quality"?
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mrhollywood
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The NEO U22-XJ is now officially out. Anyone gonna pick one up and test it's DV functionality?
http://shop.minix.us/neo-u22-xj
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Angryunibrow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Angryunibrow »

mrhollywood wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:07 pm
 The NEO U22-XJ is now officially out. Anyone gonna pick one up and test it's DV functionality?
http://shop.minix.us/neo-u22-xj
Patiently waiting to see what this supports also, but I'm not expecting anything above what we have now with the shield.
Although if this can produce accurate DV color as apposed to the shield that might be worth it.
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MastaG
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:18 pm
MastaG wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 am
 So if I understand correctly we still didn't get single track video with full EL layer (profiel 04 or 06) to work on LG C# without stuttering?
Correct, that is my understanding as well from the latest tests we have done.
Strange as my mode 1 "BL+EL+RPU" merge of Gemini Man (FEL HFR) did trigger DV and played smoothly on my C8 when I was using an older rev of TsMuxer.
See my post: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 295#p86295

The older rev of TsMuxer was showing profile 08.09.
That makes me wonder whether the TV was actually processing the full enhancement layer or perhaps it was only using the metadata (due to the profile saying 08).

Who kbnows :P

Anyways I've recompiled TsMuxer with the last two changes of jcdr248's PR: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/pull/269
And I tried to create a dual track TS file of Gemini Man, but that only triggers HDR10 on my C8.

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$ mediainfo Gemini\ Man\ 2019_DL.ts 
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : Gemini Man 2019_DL.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 75.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 92.2 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.09, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 944 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 536 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : 135
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 375 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Still hoping to find a way to enjoy the full enhancement layer on the C8 while retaining the TrueHD audio (for storage/collection purposes only, I know the C8 wont play HD-audio due to the lack of e-ARC).
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Angryunibrow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Angryunibrow »

MastaG wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:50 pm
shawnc22 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:18 pm
MastaG wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 am
 So if I understand correctly we still didn't get single track video with full EL layer (profiel 04 or 06) to work on LG C# without stuttering?
Correct, that is my understanding as well from the latest tests we have done.
Strange as my mode 1 "BL+EL+RPU" merge of Gemini Man (FEL HFR) did trigger DV and played smoothly on my C8 when I was using an older rev of TsMuxer.
See my post: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 295#p86295

The older rev of TsMuxer was showing profile 08.09.
That makes me wonder whether the TV was actually processing the full enhancement layer or perhaps it was only using the metadata (due to the profile saying 08).

Who kbnows :P

Anyways I've recompiled TsMuxer with the last two changes of jcdr248's PR: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/pull/269
And I tried to create a dual track TS file of Gemini Man, but that only triggers HDR10 on my C8.

Code: Select all

$ mediainfo Gemini\ Man\ 2019_DL.ts 
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : Gemini Man 2019_DL.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 75.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 92.2 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.09, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 944 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 536 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Codec ID                                 : 135
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 375 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Still hoping to find a way to enjoy the full enhancement layer on the C8 while retaining the TrueHD audio (for storage/collection purposes only, I know the C8 wont play HD-audio due to the lack of e-ARC).
Not possible ATM - see response below.
jcdr428 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:01 pm
Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:22 pm
 I made the comment that tsmuxer was assigning profile 7.05, while mp4muxer was profile 7.06 - I do not know if that matters.
@Angryunibrow it should be 7.06... I'll fix it. However the level is only related to pixel rate, marking 7.05 does not make any difference if your SoC can play 7.06 pixel rates. The most obvious reason why the TS plays on Blu-ray players only is the HDMV (Blu-ray) descriptors. Standard ETSI descriptors might allow DV but would remove compatibility with PGS, ac3/eac3 and ac3/TrueHD.
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mrhollywood
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mrhollywood »

Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:16 pm
mrhollywood wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:07 pm
 The NEO U22-XJ is now officially out. Anyone gonna pick one up and test it's DV functionality?
http://shop.minix.us/neo-u22-xj
Patiently waiting to see what this supports also, but I'm not expecting anything above what we have now with the shield.
Although if this can produce accurate DV color as apposed to the shield that might be worth it.
The devs specified it supports dual layer, and it's not capable of playing HD from Netflix or any other streaming service so the only thing it can play is rips. I would assume if they're gonna pay for the license they'd implement it right. I'm gonna order one when I get my trumpbux so I'll test it and post results here.
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Angryunibrow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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mrhollywood wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:42 pm
Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:16 pm
mrhollywood wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:07 pm
 The NEO U22-XJ is now officially out. Anyone gonna pick one up and test it's DV functionality?
http://shop.minix.us/neo-u22-xj
Patiently waiting to see what this supports also, but I'm not expecting anything above what we have now with the shield.
Although if this can produce accurate DV color as apposed to the shield that might be worth it.
The devs specified it supports dual layer, and it's not capable of playing HD from Netflix or any other streaming service so the only thing it can play is rips. I would assume if they're gonna pay for the license they'd implement it right. I'm gonna order one when I get my trumpbux so I'll test it and post results here.
Do you have a link to them saying that (not that I do not believe you) I would like to see what the exchange was when that was mentioned.

IF, and its a big IF this does support Profile 7, I would think we would need decrypted BDMV folder playback support. Then we do not have to worry about trying to mux these files into something that is not fully supported and losing ATMOS and everything else.

We will see I guess.
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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Angryunibrow wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:20 pm
 Do you have a link to them saying that (not that I do not believe you) I would like to see what the exchange was when that was mentioned.

IF, and its a big IF this does support Profile 7, I would think we would need decrypted BDMV folder playback support. Then we do not have to worry about trying to mux these files into something that is not fully supported and losing ATMOS and everything else.

We will see I guess.
It was probably from this vague post here: https://theminixforum.com/index.php?thr ... post-17736

The question I have is whether this dolby license fee is an encompassing license that allows for decoding of all profiles and then it's up to the hardware to be capable of dealing with the individual profiles, or is the licence fee broken down by individual profile support. If it's the latter, the skeptic in me finds it hard to believe that any company would pay the profile 7 dolby license fee for a streaming-only device just to satisfy the niche situation we have here. Normal consumers are not going to encounter profile 7 outside of playing it from their physical uhd disks, hence why it's only mostly blu-ray players that have the capability to do so at the moment (LG C# TVs are certainly an exception).
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