Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[Angryunibrow]

According to the Nvidia's tech support ( unable to find the link to that post ), the new Shield TV supports only the latest Dolby Vision Profile 4 with MEL, no support for the FEL. Please, update us as soon as possible. I'd like to hear your feedback, and I am super curious whether the new Shield is going to play it in HDR10 like the 2017 version, or it will be in full Dolby Vision with FEL. With full FEL, with lossless Audio, and with the tools available on this forum (tremendous gratitude for yusecope for his hard work and others on this forum including you ), the new Shield TV can be the ultimate device!

I have already made plenty of DV movies using these tool with Atmos audio, few pages back talking about it.

I'm one of the ones who spoke to Nvidia about what the shield can output and they confirmed profile 4 MEL.

The only thing I can't confirm is what the shield is actually outputting when a FEL file is played.

What I do know is Doctor Strange which is a MEL movie definitely has color issues, but again I'm lead to believe this is a shield issue as per previous tests located a bunch of pages back.

According to the Profile 4 document above, the new Nvidia Shield TV suppose to exit and fall back to the HDR10/SDR format since, technically, it does not support the original Profile 4 with FEL, only MEL. And if I am understanding the document right, suppose the New Shield does support the Profile 4 FEL, which means there should be two hardware decoders decoding the layers simultaneously. Correct me if I am wrong

Dolby Vision is triggered on my TV when a FEL .ts file is played, is it psudo I have no idea.

I would think if it falls back to HDR my tv would say HDR like it does on a non DV movie, but it doesn't.

[mulucy]

I have already made plenty of DV movies using these tool with Atmos audio, few pages back talking about it.

I'm one of the ones who spoke to Nvidia about what the shield can output and they confirmed profile 4 MEL.

The only thing I can't confirm is what the shield is actually outputting when a FEL file is played.

What I do know is Doctor Strange which is a MEL movie definitely has color issues, but again I'm lead to believe this is a shield issue as per previous tests located a bunch of pages back.

According to the Profile 4 document above, the new Nvidia Shield TV suppose to exit and fall back to the HDR10/SDR format since, technically, it does not support the original Profile 4 with FEL, only MEL. And if I am understanding the document right, suppose the New Shield does support the Profile 4 FEL, which means there should be two hardware decoders decoding the layers simultaneously. Correct me if I am wrong

Dolby Vision is triggered on my TV when a FEL .ts file is played, is it psudo I have no idea.

I would think if it falls back to HDR my tv would say HDR like it does on a non DV movie, but it doesn't.

Most likely the New Shield TV does support the Profile 4 FEL. If you read the document above from Dolby Labs, you will see it states that the device has to fall back to HDR/SDR if it can not initiate the second hardware decoder to decode the FEL, but the New Shield processes the video in Dolby Vision. I wish there was a way to display the processes to confirm the second hardware decoder for the FEL.

[daddy]

Thank you,
Trying your new revision and the patched tsMuxer for profile 4 DV is recognized on my C7 and C9 while using a TS file.
However, it stutters terribly. Maybe these tvs can't handle dual layers natively?

While using the shield, it works (DV detected on the team, Atmos detected on my Denon) but only with Plex, and it crashes at start sometimes. I was never able to get DV to work with Emby on Shield.
The EL file generated by "Us" was almost 10GB, I suppose that's FEL?

Thanks

The TV player cannot play Atmos audio. I'm assuming you're using Plex because the internal player would not play the audio to begin with. The stuttering is probably caused by tv plex player trying to transcode that atmos track into something playable.

I normally use Emby. Both Emby and Plex trigger DV on the TV player. It shows both the ATMOS track and the AC3 "Core" track. Both of them stutter. Transcoding anything in Emby will strip DV anyway, so I'm confident it's not the problem.
My only conclusion is that the C7/C9 needs DV in single layer in order to work. But from what I understand if I do produce single track single layer track I won't be able to play them with devices that can only play regular HDR, correct? Otherwise, what's the drawback in producing single track single layer files?

Emby on shield just doesn't trigger DV for some reason, but I'm guessing that's something I'll need to ask the Emby team.

DV Profile 4 is single track dual layer
DV Profile 7 is dual track dual layer

Without any audio track:
- C7 play perfectly dvhe.07.06 => mp4 files done with the mp4muxer method
- C7 stutter on dvhe.04.06 BL+EL+RPU => ts or m2ts files done with tsmuxer + yusesope fantastic tool

[deadchip12]

You need
Eac3to 3.34
Tsmuxer
Yusesope tool v.0.0.3

First you have to make bl.hevc and el.hevc

Eac3to path to folder with DV movie 2:bl.hevc 3:el.hevc

Know you have made 2 files bl.hevc and el.hevc

Start yusesope tool and drop first bl.hevc and then el.hevc
This will make a new hevc fIle

Start tsmuxerGui
Add the file you made With yusesope tool
Add Blu-ray movie and just select the soundtrack
Mux the files together in Ts.

You will know have a movie that is DV with Atmos that will play on shield 2019

I followed the exact same steps but the final file only has 1 video stream (hdr10).

You must use this tsmuxer, if you use wrong only hdr10 is copyed

https://mega.nz/#!9m4FDJjT!1276qfyWM_tU ... 5SqsVORvSg

the zip file you linked does not have the tsMuxerGUI.exe file? I only see the tsMuxeR.exe

[Mortenjorstad]

I followed the exact same steps but the final file only has 1 video stream (hdr10).

You must use this tsmuxer, if you use wrong only hdr10 is copyed

https://mega.nz/#!9m4FDJjT!1276qfyWM_tU ... 5SqsVORvSg

the zip file you linked does not have the tsMuxerGUI.exe file? I only see the tsMuxeR.exe

You can use the tsmuxergui you have just switch the tsmuxer.exe

[superfans124]

I have made several m2ts DV adding also the atmos/dts hd master audio tracks and all play flawlessly in the shield 2019 using Plex app.
Among them Braveheart, Cold Pursuit, The Doors, Earth: One Amazing Day (all FEL). All made using Yusesope tool v.003
There is one remaining problem to be sorted out and this is the pgs subtitles.
Any time in any movie I try to enable the subtitles the movie either stops or does not start.
May be is a Plex problem.

it is a plex problem, if: the sub is PGS, which is graphic-based subtitle, plex always try to burn it to video (how it's programmed to handle it, I assume). not a problem when playing 1080p or lower res video on plex, but when playing 4K/HDR and PGS sub, plex requires a lot of transcoding power to do that. When playing 4K/HDR content on plex, your sub needs to be in SRT (text based) to playback smoothly.

[hhvnr12345]

Hi, first time posting here.

I'm trying to create a Dolby Vision file that is playable on my Sony X950G TV. Don't care about lossless audio since I'm using TV Speaker anyway.
I've tried demux Joker and Shazam BluRay (using eac3to or tsMuxer, both works) and using mp4muxer profile 4 (profile 7 just played as HDR10 while profile 5 doesn't play at all) to make an MP4, and both of them successfully trigger Dolby Vision using TV player (or MX Player with HW decoder, same thing). Here's the MediaInfo of the Shazam:

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Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2 h 11 min
Bit rate                                 : 76.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.386
Stream size                              : 70.6 GiB (99%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1351 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 384 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : hev1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2 h 11 min
Bit rate                                 : 62.0 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.001
Stream size                              : 58.4 MiB (0%)
Default                                  : No
Alternate group                          : 1
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 2 h 11 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 422 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 2
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-03-21 15:49:34

However, I tried to create DV MP4 with Oldboy and F&F: Hobb & Shaw; using the same process as above, but TV doesn't trigger Dolby Vision. In fact, it seems to detect the file as SDR with BT.2020 colorspaces, and doesn't drive backlight to maximum. Tried with both Profile 4 & 5 BTW, nothing work.
I've since using Yusesope tool 0.0.3 to create the BL_EL_RPU stream, than muxing it with AC3 audio using MP4Muxer, and got the same result. Than I tried using the test tsMuxer build posted here instead of MP4Muxer, and while the TV regcognized file as HDR10, it doesn't play as Dolby Vision. Here the MediaInfo of the latest file, created using Yusesope tools and tsMuxer test build:

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 16 min
Bit rate                                 : 71.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.357
Stream size                              : 67.7 GiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 419 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 2 h 16 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 438 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main

So what is wrong here? Is it because the TV refuse to trigger Dolby Vision if the Enhancement Layer too big? Can anyone provide me a movie sample with FEL or big MEL that have successfully trigger Dolby Vision on Sony TV, or Nvidia Shield? I also doesn't run any command line with, just use the ".bat" file, is that the issue? Thanks.

P/S: Tested all the sample Joker files here:https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 425#p85573. Again, only Profile 4 and 5 worked. Both profile 7 files doesn't.

[deadchip12]

You must use this tsmuxer, if you use wrong only hdr10 is copyed

https://mega.nz/#!9m4FDJjT!1276qfyWM_tU ... 5SqsVORvSg

the zip file you linked does not have the tsMuxerGUI.exe file? I only see the tsMuxeR.exe

You can use the tsmuxergui you have just switch the tsmuxer.exe

I tried this and the output ts file still only has 1 video stream.

When I add the BL_EL_RPL.hevc into tsmuxerGUI, is it supposed to be shown as only 1 layer? I'm afraid the error comes from that hevc file, not tsmuxer.

[shawnc22]

DV Profile 4 is single track dual layer
DV Profile 7 is dual track dual layer

Without any audio track:
- C7 play perfectly dvhe.07.06 => mp4 files done with the mp4muxer method
- C7 stutter on dvhe.04.06 BL+EL+RPU => ts or m2ts files done with tsmuxer + yusesope fantastic tool

I actually have a bit of a different experience on my B9 using the Joker sample files. Both without audio track:

-MP4 made with the original separate BL and EL tracks in mp4muxer (dvhe.07.06) -> Doesn't play at all on the internal player or TV Plex player
-TS made with combined BL+EL tracks using yusecope's tool and tsmuxer (dvhe.04.06) -> Plays perfectly and triggers DV

I tried this and the output ts file still only has 1 video stream.

When I add the BL_EL_RPL.hevc into tsmuxerGUI, is it supposed to be shown as only 1 layer? I'm afraid the error comes from that hevc file, not tsmuxer.

That's correct. When using yusecope's tool, there will only be one video track. But that single track has two layers, the BL and EL layer, hence single track dual layer.

[1000010]

is there any other tool than tsmuxer to mux hevc with atmos?

[RESET_9999]

When I add the BL_EL_RPL.hevc into tsmuxerGUI, is it supposed to be shown as only 1 layer? I'm afraid the error comes from that hevc file, not tsmuxer.

thats the old tsMuxer so of course it wont work.. get the latest version posted here

[covid19]

Hello!

It's possible to create DV profile 5 video file in tsMuxer from file generated by bl_el_rpu_builder.py script with -mode 2 option?

Currently i do this with mp4muxer:

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mp4muxer --dv_profile 5 -i BL_RPU.hevc -o out.mp4

something like this.

Sorry for my english!

[deadchip12]

When I add the BL_EL_RPL.hevc into tsmuxerGUI, is it supposed to be shown as only 1 layer? I'm afraid the error comes from that hevc file, not tsmuxer.

thats the old tsMuxer so of course it wont work.. get the latest version posted here

I thought i got the latest one? Could u link me to the latest version?

[RESET_9999]

here it is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... sp=sharing

open source tsmuxer have the github icon and no paypal icon.

[DaMacFunkin]

Mmm, blu ray .com has Mission Impossible listed as Fel but it works on my Oppo after Yusepoe 3 tool and TS muxer, 1917 is listed as FEL also but doesn’t work (IDK).
Is there anyway to be sure what is FEL and what isn’t?