Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[DaMacFunkin]

does this conversion with yusesope script work if EL is FEL? I'm guessing if it does the Shield won't play it properly according to the diagram posted previously, so the conversion wouldn't make sense, because it won't improve HDR at all. is this correct?

also, how do you differentiate between MEL or FEL in a bluray?

This link to a blu-ray.com forum post lists whether many discs are FEL or MEL.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

Hi, is it possible to create file with fel and Atmos that will play on shield, even if that is only 10bit?
And will that file then play on Oppo 203?
Willing to try if someone has some pointers, I’ve already created mel and Atmos that play fine on Shield 2019 and Oppo

[yusesope]

Hi, is it possible to create file with fel and Atmos that will play on shield, even if that is only 10bit?
And will that file then play on Oppo 203?
Willing to try if someone has some pointers, I’ve already created mel and Atmos that play fine on Shield 2019 and Oppo

Hi, I assume you used my tool + tsMuxer. Am I wrong?
As for movies with a FEL Layer, @ragico, a few posts ago, reported a success with the movie of Black Panther (FEL - 3.41 Mb/s).

You should try and then report your experience here on the forum.
The procedure is identical to that used for a movie with a MEL Layer.
Use my tool (v0.0.3) and THIS version of tsMuxer posted by @ragico (replace "tsMuxer.exe" with the one you will download)

Since you own an OPPO 203, could you do me this favour: while playing a movie (my tool + tsMuxer, please try both a FEL and an MEL movie), can you press the "info" button and take a screenshot (both for the Multimedia information section and for the HDMI output information section)?
It is important, however, that in the player settings, Color Space and Color depth (Video Output Setup) are set to AUTO.
Help yourself with this video (19:24):
https://youtu.be/Pqg8Ky6T7vc?t=1164

Thank you

[1000010]

You should try and then report your experience here on the forum.

just tried your method with with MEL and FEL on Shield and it works like magic. Hats off to you sir. I can even do it on linux.

It makes me a bit confused though, I thought Shield does not support decoding of FEL, which means it should skip DV pipeline according to the diagram from one of your previous posts. Any idea what might be happening there? Is there any way I can check? going to take a look client logs later, I already deleted all my test files.

[mulucy]

You should try and then report your experience here on the forum.

just tried your method with with MEL and FEL on Shield and it works like magic. Hats off to you sir. I can even do it on linux.

It makes me a bit confused though, I thought Shield does not support decoding of FEL, which means it should skip DV pipeline according to the diagram from one of your previous posts. Any idea what might be happening there? Is there any way I can check? going to take a look client logs later, I already deleted all my test files.

This is exactly what I have been wondering about lately. I would appreciate it if you could update your post later to see what's happening with the FEL. Thanks in advance!

[yusesope]

You should try and then report your experience here on the forum.

just tried your method with with MEL and FEL on Shield and it works like magic. Hats off to you sir. I can even do it on linux.

It makes me a bit confused though, I thought Shield does not support decoding of FEL, which means it should skip DV pipeline according to the diagram from one of your previous posts. Any idea what might be happening there? Is there any way I can check? going to take a look client logs later, I already deleted all my test files.

I think what I wrote: according to the official documents if the hardware is not able to handle a FEL stream (by instantiating a secondary HEVC decoder), it should fall back on HDR10/SDR.
The hardware of the new Shield is very performing, it is not unlikely that it is also able to manage FEL streams.

The confirmation can only come from you: my tool has been downloaded hundreds of times but few people have posted their feedback.

If it can help you (when you check the client logs), the Shield's hardware decoder is

Code: Select all

OMX.Nvidia.DOVI.decode

If @DaMacFunkin answers my previous question, it would also be interesting if he could compare the output video quality of the OPPO with that of the new Shield

[shawnc22]

Some further good reads on FEL vs MEL:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=94

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=119

Just taking a wild guess here, but if it’s true that the shield is only capable of supporting prof 4 MEL as mentioned by a user here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&p=86086#p86086, then maybe the shield is treating the FEL like an MEL during playback (i.e. discarding the extra video information and only reading the dynamic metadata). As yusecope mentioned, some comparisons between playback of FEL movies on the oppo (and x700?) vs shield would definitely help clear things up.

[yusesope]

Some further good reads on FEL vs MEL:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=94

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=119

Just taking a wild guess here, but if it’s true that the shield is only capable of supporting prof 4 MEL as mentioned by a user here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18602&p=86086#p86086, then maybe the shield is treating the FEL like an MEL during playback (i.e. discarding the extra video information and only reading the dynamic metadata).

It is a behavior not reported in the official documentation

As yusecope mentioned, some comparisons between playback of FEL movies on the oppo (and x700?) vs shield would definitely help clear things up.

always remembering that the Shield adds "an extra touch of red" as we have seen by comparing a Netflix movie reproduced on the Shield and on the Sony X700 (HERE)!

[deadchip12]

You need
Eac3to 3.34
Tsmuxer
Yusesope tool v.0.0.3

First you have to make bl.hevc and el.hevc

Eac3to path to folder with DV movie 2:bl.hevc 3:el.hevc

Know you have made 2 files bl.hevc and el.hevc

Start yusesope tool and drop first bl.hevc and then el.hevc
This will make a new hevc fIle

Start tsmuxerGui
Add the file you made With yusesope tool
Add Blu-ray movie and just select the soundtrack
Mux the files together in Ts.

You will know have a movie that is DV with Atmos that will play on shield 2019

I followed the exact same steps but the final file only has 1 video stream (hdr10).

[Alldu]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

Wow, thanks so much! Everything seems to be working like a charm - and so much easier than everything else! God bless ya, laddy

[kazuma]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

Wow, thanks so much! Everything seems to be working like a charm - and so much easier than everything else! God bless ya, laddy

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

[Alldu]

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

Wow, thanks so much! Everything seems to be working like a charm - and so much easier than everything else! God bless ya, laddy

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

Well, it's pretty simple. You just add your m2ts file into the tsMuxer, choose the BL and EL and the audio of your choosing. If you have sup subtitles - throw it in as well. Or if you have an alternate audio track, not found on the disc - you can add that too. Then just mux it into m2ts. That's it. Play it via Sony x700 and enjoy.

[kazuma]

Wow, thanks so much! Everything seems to be working like a charm - and so much easier than everything else! God bless ya, laddy

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

Well, it's pretty simple. You just add your m2ts file into the tsMuxer, choose the BL and EL and the audio of your choosing. If you have sup subtitles - throw it in as well. Or if you have an alternate audio track, not found on the disc - you can add that too. Then just mux it into m2ts. That's it. Play it via Sony x700 and enjoy.

sorry, what is BL and EL?

[Alldu]

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

Well, it's pretty simple. You just add your m2ts file into the tsMuxer, choose the BL and EL and the audio of your choosing. If you have sup subtitles - throw it in as well. Or if you have an alternate audio track, not found on the disc - you can add that too. Then just mux it into m2ts. That's it. Play it via Sony x700 and enjoy.

sorry, what is BL and EL?

These are two video streams - Basic Layer and Enhanced Layer (or DV layer) - two video streams that give you DV, when combined.

[box4m]

Wow, thanks so much! Everything seems to be working like a charm - and so much easier than everything else! God bless ya, laddy

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

Well, it's pretty simple. You just add your m2ts file into the tsMuxer, choose the BL and EL and the audio of your choosing. If you have sup subtitles - throw it in as well. Or if you have an alternate audio track, not found on the disc - you can add that too. Then just mux it into m2ts. That's it. Play it via Sony x700 and enjoy.

is it possible to play m2ts, mkv, ts etc through network share on x700?

[Alldu]

how is this process going? what are the steps? i've downloaded the edited tsmuxer in the link. i have a DV m2ts file of matrix.

Well, it's pretty simple. You just add your m2ts file into the tsMuxer, choose the BL and EL and the audio of your choosing. If you have sup subtitles - throw it in as well. Or if you have an alternate audio track, not found on the disc - you can add that too. Then just mux it into m2ts. That's it. Play it via Sony x700 and enjoy.

is it possible to play m2ts, mkv, ts etc through network share on x700?

Not sure about the network, I connect my X700 straight to the TV. Also, mkv does not support DV, only HDR.