Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[shawnc22]

Hi all,

I'm a little confused. I heard/read that it was not possible to use Dolby Vision/Atmos with M2TS files but Mortenjorstad wrote that he made 56 dv movies.
So i tried it too with the movie 1917 and played it on the shield tv pro. My tv is the Lg Oled C7 and it triggers dv. My receiver is the Denon 4300h and shows Atmos.

When i look to the info file it looks good.

Algemeen
ID : 1 (0x1)
Volledige naam : D:\4k Movies\1917.m2ts
Formaat : BDAV
Formaat/Info : Blu-ray Video
Bestandsgrootte : 71,8 GiB
Duur : 1 h 58 min
Totale bitratemodus : Variabel
Totale bitrate : 86,4 Mb/s
Maximale Totale bitrate : 35,5 Mb/s

Video
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : HEVC
Formaat/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Formaatprofiel : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR_Format/String : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec-ID : 36
Duur : 1 h 58 min
Bitrate : 82,5 Mb/s
Breedte : 3 840 pixels
Hoogte : 2 160 pixels
Beeldverhouding : 16:9
Framerate : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
BitDepth/String : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.415
Stroomgrootte : 68,6 GiB (96%)
colour_range : Limited
colour_primaries : BT.2020
transfer_characteristics : PQ
matrix_coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
MasteringDisplay_ColorPrimaries : Display P3
MasteringDisplay_Luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
MaxCLL : 1000 cd/m2
MaxFALL : 168 cd/m2

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu-ID : 1 (0x1)
Formaat : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Formaat/Info : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Format_Commercial_IfAny : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxingmodus : Stream extension
Codec-ID : 131
Duur : 1 h 58 min
Bitrate-modus : Variabel
Bitrate : 448 kb/s
Maximale bitrate : 7 158 kb/s
Kanaal(en) : 8 kanalen
ChannelLayout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Samplerate : 48,0 kHz
Framerate : 31,250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Video vertraging : 17 ms
Stroomgrootte : 381 MiB (1%)
Taal : Engels
ServiceKind/String : Complete Main
NumberOfDynamicObjects : 11
BedChannelCount/String : 1 kanaal
BedChannelConfiguration : LFE

Is this good or not good?

Ah my fault, that does look good. It was earlier on in the process that people weren’t able to get m2ts working and only ts, maybe that’s changed in the more recent versions of tsmuxer and just that nobody has tried. Did you experience the same playback issues that RESET_999 was having?

[eblackadder]

@Shawnc22

I still have to try with subs but without subs it kept playing although i let it only play for a few minutes. I am going to try it with subs as well.
On MX Player it runs fine when you start, also with subs.(HW decoder) When you set it on pause and continue then there's no problem but when you stop the movie and want to continue then it gets to HW+ and it shows hdr10 plus stereo. When i want togo back to HW i get the message that HW isn't supported. That's of course strange because when you start the movie it plays perfect.

I just tried PGS subs with plex and then i get the message that it can't process the subs well and it continues without subs.

[yusesope]

This time it's not my fault !
There seems to be a little bit missing in the BL Layer: my program is in eternal expectation of a data that will never arrive! What is the title of the movie?

Ah odd that the temp version of the v2 tool worked and v3 did not.

v0.0.2 was bugged: for this reason has been replaced by version 0.0.3 (which has instead identified the problem)
The "The source file seems to be damaged" is quite explanatory.


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I also took a look at the tsMuxeR code and I think I have identified the reason why your .ts files are marked with the profile dvhe.08 (the profile dvhe.04 should be the right one since dvhe.08 does not have the Enhancement Layer).

I believe the problem occurs HERE: all Single Track Double Layer files are treated as Single Track Single Layer files.

Examples:

• THIS LG demo (dvhe.04) is remuxed in a dvhe.05 file

• Joker's BL + EL + RPU raw stream that I uploaded some time ago (HERE) is flagged as dvhe.08 (like your remuxes).

The choice of the profile is due to the value of "DVCompatibility"

The presence of EL should be used to distinguish a Double Layer file from a Single Layer file.

If any of you attend the tsMuxeR developer forum, could you please report it?
So they can check if I said a nonsense or not

[bgalakazam]

Wow, so much activity recently. Great job on the progress.

As far as X700 goes, is there anything this new tool from yusesope adds over a tsMuxer remux?

[baker99]

This time it's not my fault !
There seems to be a little bit missing in the BL Layer: my program is in eternal expectation of a data that will never arrive! What is the title of the movie?

Ah odd that the temp version of the v2 tool worked and v3 did not.

v0.0.2 was bugged: for this reason has been replaced by version 0.0.3 (which has instead identified the problem)
The "The source file seems to be damaged" is quite explanatory.


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I also took a look at the tsMuxeR code and I think I have identified the reason why your .ts files are marked with the profile dvhe.08 (the profile dvhe.04 should be the right one since dvhe.08 does not have the Enhancement Layer).

I believe the problem occurs HERE: all Single Track Double Layer files are treated as Single Track Single Layer files.

Examples:

• THIS LG demo (dvhe.04) is remuxed in a dvhe.05 file

• Joker's BL + EL + RPU raw stream that I uploaded some time ago (HERE) is flagged as dvhe.08 (like your remuxes).

The choice of the profile is due to the value of "DVCompatibility"

The presence of EL should be used to distinguish a Double Layer file from a Single Layer file.

If any of you attend the tsMuxeR developer forum, could you please report it?
So they can check if I said a nonsense or not

I have posted it on the forum for you

[Alldu]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

[RESET_9999]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

[shawnc22]

This time it's not my fault !
There seems to be a little bit missing in the BL Layer: my program is in eternal expectation of a data that will never arrive! What is the title of the movie?

Ah odd that the temp version of the v2 tool worked and v3 did not.

v0.0.2 was bugged: for this reason has been replaced by version 0.0.3 (which has instead identified the problem)
The "The source file seems to be damaged" is quite explanatory.


############################################################
I also took a look at the tsMuxeR code and I think I have identified the reason why your .ts files are marked with the profile dvhe.08 (the profile dvhe.04 should be the right one since dvhe.08 does not have the Enhancement Layer).

I believe the problem occurs HERE: all Single Track Double Layer files are treated as Single Track Single Layer files.

Examples:

• THIS LG demo (dvhe.04) is remuxed in a dvhe.05 file

• Joker's BL + EL + RPU raw stream that I uploaded some time ago (HERE) is flagged as dvhe.08 (like your remuxes).

The choice of the profile is due to the value of "DVCompatibility"

The presence of EL should be used to distinguish a Double Layer file from a Single Layer file.

If any of you attend the tsMuxeR developer forum, could you please report it?
So they can check if I said a nonsense or not

So one last thing with that problematic movie. I stripped out the BL layer from the mkv that I made out of the original disk, and it surprisingly mixed successfully (equal AUDs) with the EL layer I had extracted prior from the decrypted M2TS. But once muxed back into the TS container with the Atmos audio, there was definitely a hiccup in the video at the 0:43:35 mark and the audio became desynced thereafter. Odd that there was no hiccup in playback of the mkv file though at the same point, so the EL is seemingly the problematic source even though the original BL was the one with the missing AUD.

Anyways moving on, I wanted to test out your theory with the tsmuxer code but didn't really want to dig through the whole logic with DVCompatibility (nor do I really understand it), so I just commented out that entire conditional block with the "Duallayers" variable and simply forced the DV profile to 4 (bitWriter.putBits(7,4)). After compiling this small change in a5180007's latest build, i retested the Joker BL+EL+RPU file and out came with this:

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General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : Z:\TS\Joker_BL_EL_RPU_PROF4.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 93.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 23 s 607 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 33.1 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 23 s 648 ms
Bit rate                                 : 31.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.158
Stream size                              : 88.8 MiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 120 cd/m2

Triggers DV on the shield and looks pretty much the same as the profile 8 video. Again, I know what I did was very hacky as I was just curious if changing the DV profile would do anything . Perhaps after the devs take a look at it and implement a real change, there will be some noticeable differences.

[rosavanwinkle]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

so wait you got all 3 to work together but on that X700 player not on the shield/build in LG player? or am i mistaken something?

[planet_hoarder]

Hy guys, anybody know what's the best way to embed sub/idx or ass subtitles into the DV mp4? I play my DV files via X700 and for some reason it can't read ass subs properly and sub/idx at all, if I put them in the same folder as DV mp4. Thanks!

You don't have to use the MP4 container anymore with the x700. You can remux your UHD bluray disc directly to .TS or .M2TS using this tsMuxer:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IWYPO4 ... sp=sharing

DV, Atmos and subs will work.

so wait you got all 3 to work together but on that X700 player not on the shield/build in LG player? or am i mistaken something?

Built-in LG player doesn't support Atmos, even on C9 with eARC (unless they updated)
but bitstreams Atmos with no problems if you can play it (e.g. HTPC)

[RESET_9999]

so wait you got all 3 to work together but on that X700 player not on the shield/build in LG player? or am i mistaken something?

yep but so far, Dual layer DV + Atmos TS(or m2ts) only works on the x700 and the oppo.

A friend of mine tried the Philips and LG DV Bluray player which both support dual layer DV MP4 but no success.

[rosavanwinkle]

i rather have a nice dolby vision that works perfect then a atmos sound,since i dont have a full atmos sound system atm xD

[kamus]

Did anyone ever find a fix for the stutter problems using Grencola's tool?

I haven't been able to get a single working file with that tool, they all stutter like crazy on my LG B9.

[Grencola]

Did anyone ever find a fix for the stutter problems using Grencola's tool?

I haven't been able to get a single working file with that tool, they all stutter like crazy on my LG B9.

are you using mkv remux or m2ts? had a few remuxes that stuttered, all m2ts have been fine though. I don't own a B9 but many others who do have no problems. you can try yusesope's tool and make a bl+el-rpu hevc then run that through mp4 muxer via profile 7.

[Deihnyx]

Hello,
I've also been having stuttering issues.
Tested on a OLED C7 and C9 with Emby/Plex. Also tested on Nvidia shield (2019)
My goal would be to have DV work on devices that can fully support it, otherwise fallback to HDR. I'm fully aware that Atmos will not work on WebOS client and I'm ok with it.
I used Joker for testing.
So:

• On C7 WebOS, It should play DV, AC3 5.1 Core
• On C9 WebOS, It should play DV, AC3 5.1 Core
• On Nvidia Shield it should play DV, Atmos

I used the method described in the past threads.

• ffmpeg to decode the BL + EL layer

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  ffmpeg -i bluray:H:\ -map 0:0 -c copy D:\output\BL.hevc -map 0:1 -c copy D:\output\EL.hevc
  

• yusesope's script to merge the layers (all counters to 100%)

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  python src\bl_el_rpu_builder.py -bl D:\output\BL.hevc -el D:\output\EL.hevc -of D:\output\Full.hevc
  

• tsmuxer to remux the new hevc + truehd atmos to TS

On the C7:

• If I pick the TrueHD file, Emby goes into direct streaming (downgrade the sound) and HDR shows up
• If I pick the Core AC3 file, black screen

On the C9:

• If I pick the TrueHD file, Emby goes into direct streaming (downgrade the sound) and HDR shows up (e-ARC doesn't work as it should, but that's a known issue)
• If I pick the Core AC3 file, Dolby Vision shows up, but it stutters really really bad

On Shield 2019 (DV is enabled)

• If I pick the TrueHD file, HDR is triggered (direct play) on C7, Dolby Vision on C9. Only Plex works.
• If I pick the Core AC3 file, HDR is triggered (direct play) on C7, Dolby Vision on C9. Only Plex works.
  Not sure why the result would be different between the C7 and the C9 while running on Shield though...

I'm really not sure what's going on. Are TS DV not working at all with the OLED or does it need a different dv profile?
I'd like to avoid having to make a mp4 and a ts version of each movie depending of the source.

MediaInfo:

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General
ID                             : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                  : \\192.168.0.200\movies\Movies\Joker (2019)\Joker (2019) - UHD.ts
Format                         : MPEG-TS
File size                      : 48.6 GiB
Duration                       : 2 h 1 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 57.1 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate       : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                             : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                     : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                       : 36
Duration                       : 2 h 1 min
Bit rate                       : 53.7 Mb/s
Width                          : 3 840 pixels
Height                         : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.270
Stream size                    : 45.7 GiB (94%)
Language                       : English
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics       : PQ
Matrix coefficients            : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primar : Display P3
Mastering display luminance    : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level    : 992 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Le : 120 cd/m2

Audio
ID                             : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                    : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                    : Stream extension
Codec ID                       : 131
Duration                       : 2 h 1 min
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate               : 7 158 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 8 channels
Channel layout                 : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 558 MiB (1%)
Language                       : English
Service kind                   : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects      : 15
Bed channel count              : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration      : LFE