Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

[rosavanwinkle]

May i ask? why is everyone so focused on MKV? why not mp4 etc.? dumb question possibly

[SamuriHL]

MP4 doesn't technically support many of the things that MKV supports such as HD Audio and blu-ray type subtitles.

[Woodstock]

MP4 may be limited, but, for enough money, the spec will "magically" support additional things.

Graphic subtitles like VOBSUB and PGS aren't supported because the people who created them do not WANT them in MP4. That might encourage piracy, don'cha know!

[SamuriHL]

Righttttt cause I spent many thousands of dollars building a high end home theater system with 7.1.2 ATMOS sound, 65" OLED, UB820 UHD player, high end HTPC, 20 TB NAS, SHIELD, Firestick 4k....so I could pirate content. SMFH. (And no, I know you were being sarcastic). But yea, these formats can be a pain in the ass. Which is why I don't currently bother backing up the DV part of it and just use my high end HTPC to tone map with madvr.

[justinadams]

Welp, i'm stumped.
I can't seem to get Joker to process to single layer correctly.
I just did Alita and it worked without issue. Demux with tsmuxer (the one that has the folder name of "tsMuxer test"), yusesope's v2 tool, remux to ts with tsmuxer. I have tried a different copy of joker (just in case), demux with ffmpeg, remux without audio, adjusting the the load_balancing_factor of yuescope's tool (since it was showing either 99.6% or 99.7% of EL once it completed with no error).
only success I have had was with doing a 20 second clip with no audio.
anything suggestions would be much appreciated.

[shawnc22]

Welp, i'm stumped.
I can't seem to get Joker to process to single layer correctly.
I just did Alita and it worked without issue. Demux with tsmuxer (the one that has the folder name of "tsMuxer test"), yusesope's v2 tool, remux to ts with tsmuxer. I have tried a different copy of joker (just in case), demux with ffmpeg, remux without audio, adjusting the the load_balancing_factor of yuescope's tool (since it was showing either 99.6% or 99.7% of EL once it completed with no error).
only success I have had was with doing a 20 second clip with no audio.
anything suggestions would be much appreciated.

Same issue with Doctor Sleep. Going through the steps with the whole movie resulted in a 99.2% EL analysis in yusecope's tool and then no DV layer once remuxed back into a TS container. Using a 20s clip, the files go through yusecope's at 100% on everything and the resulting TS with no audio contains both DV and HDR 10+:

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 19 s 19 ms
Bit rate                                 : 46.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.232
Stream size                              : 104 MiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

[yusesope]

My current MKV samples store no DV metadata in codec private area - once I add the support I'll update the samples and hopefully this would give the start to DV support in MKV container.

Wonderful

Welp, i'm stumped.
I can't seem to get Joker to process to single layer correctly.
I just did Alita and it worked without issue. Demux with tsmuxer (the one that has the folder name of "tsMuxer test"), yusesope's v2 tool, remux to ts with tsmuxer. I have tried a different copy of joker (just in case), demux with ffmpeg, remux without audio, adjusting the the load_balancing_factor of yuescope's tool (since it was showing either 99.6% or 99.7% of EL once it completed with no error).
only success I have had was with doing a 20 second clip with no audio.
anything suggestions would be much appreciated.

Same issue with Doctor Sleep. Going through the steps with the whole movie resulted in a 99.2% EL analysis in yusecope's tool and then no DV layer once remuxed back into a TS container. Using a 20s clip, the files go through yusecope's at 100% on everything and the resulting TS with no audio contains both DV and HDR 10+:

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 19 s 19 ms
Bit rate                                 : 46.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.232
Stream size                              : 104 MiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Can you both try THIS temporary version (only source code)?

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python \path\to\bl_el_rpu_builder_temp_version.py -bl \path\to\BL.hevc -el \path\to\EL.hevc -of \path\to\output.hevc 

I imposed a more rigid alignment between the reading and writing processes (in order to avoid that the two layers, BL and EL, are staggered in the output file).

In the event that the counters reach all 100%, wait for the message "Press a button to exit".

[Angryunibrow]

OK so I did Doctor Sleep (Full Movie) using the "Test Build"

Everything processed 100%.
(I used EAC3TO to Extract the BL & EL)

Still recieved the same message in tsMuxeR, and thought this was not going to work.



Mediainfo is showing Dolby Vision now along with HDR10+

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate                                 : 66.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.337
Stream size                              : 71.1 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 347 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 696 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

I'm not home yet to test this on the shield - but looks promising.

[justinadams]

My current MKV samples store no DV metadata in codec private area - once I add the support I'll update the samples and hopefully this would give the start to DV support in MKV container.

Wonderful

Welp, i'm stumped.
I can't seem to get Joker to process to single layer correctly.
I just did Alita and it worked without issue. Demux with tsmuxer (the one that has the folder name of "tsMuxer test"), yusesope's v2 tool, remux to ts with tsmuxer. I have tried a different copy of joker (just in case), demux with ffmpeg, remux without audio, adjusting the the load_balancing_factor of yuescope's tool (since it was showing either 99.6% or 99.7% of EL once it completed with no error).
only success I have had was with doing a 20 second clip with no audio.
anything suggestions would be much appreciated.

Same issue with Doctor Sleep. Going through the steps with the whole movie resulted in a 99.2% EL analysis in yusecope's tool and then no DV layer once remuxed back into a TS container. Using a 20s clip, the files go through yusecope's at 100% on everything and the resulting TS with no audio contains both DV and HDR 10+:

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 19 s 19 ms
Bit rate                                 : 46.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.232
Stream size                              : 104 MiB (95%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Can you both try THIS temporary version (only source code)?

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python-3.7.6.amd64\python \path\to\bl_el_rpu_builder_temp_version.py -bl \path\to\BL.hevc -el \path\to\EL.hevc -of \path\to\output.hevc 

I imposed a more rigid alignment between the reading and writing processes (in order to avoid that the two layers, BL and EL, are staggered in the output file).

In the event that the counters reach all 100%, wait for the message "Press a button to exit".

Ding Ding Ding

That has worked. 100% on all. mediainfo shows DV. and the final muxed file plays and triggers DV.
Thank you very much.

[shawnc22]

OK so I did Doctor Sleep (Full Movie) using the "Test Build"

Everything processed 100%.
(I used EAC3TO to Extract the BL & EL)

Still recieved the same message in tsMuxeR, and thought this was not going to work.



Mediainfo is showing Dolby Vision now along with HDR10+

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate                                 : 66.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.337
Stream size                              : 71.1 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 347 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 696 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

I'm not home yet to test this on the shield - but looks promising.

Didn't get to test this new build myself yet, but hasn't that pyramid message always shown up when remuxing back to TS? From the couple movies I've tried so far that worked, I believe that message has always been there; although I have no idea what it means and its significance.

[Angryunibrow]

OK so I did Doctor Sleep (Full Movie) using the "Test Build"

Everything processed 100%.
(I used EAC3TO to Extract the BL & EL)

Still recieved the same message in tsMuxeR, and thought this was not going to work.



Mediainfo is showing Dolby Vision now along with HDR10+

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate                                 : 66.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.337
Stream size                              : 71.1 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 347 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 696 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

I'm not home yet to test this on the shield - but looks promising.

Didn't get to test this new build myself yet, but hasn't that pyramid message always shown up when remuxing back to TS? From the couple movies I've tried so far that worked, I believe that message has always been there; although I have no idea what it means and its significance.

I have only seen this message on this movie, and I also tried Star Wars - Which was not successful in keeping the Dolby Vision in the final file. (This was before this new build of the tool) So I will try Star Wars again

[baker99]

OK so I did Doctor Sleep (Full Movie) using the "Test Build"

Everything processed 100%.
(I used EAC3TO to Extract the BL & EL)

Still recieved the same message in tsMuxeR, and thought this was not going to work.



Mediainfo is showing Dolby Vision now along with HDR10+

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate                                 : 66.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.337
Stream size                              : 71.1 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 745 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 h 32 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 347 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 696 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 15
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

I'm not home yet to test this on the shield - but looks promising.

Didn't get to test this new build myself yet, but hasn't that pyramid message always shown up when remuxing back to TS? From the couple movies I've tried so far that worked, I believe that message has always been there; although I have no idea what it means and its significance.

I have only seen this message on this movie, and I also tried Star Wars - Which was not successful in keeping the Dolby Vision in the final file. (This was before this new build of the tool) So I will try Star Wars again

I regularly get the message, I think it's normal and to do with timestamps, some information here https://bitmovin.com/docs/encoding/faqs ... by-default

[Arbigator]

@yusesope

Just tried your temporary build, and it worked for Joker, however I tried it with Spectre, and the EL analysis rockets to 100% fairly quickly, but the BL analysis sits at 0%, and does not progress. I also tried it with First Man, and it just hangs and says "wait.." after hitting enter when adding the EL.

[shawnc22]

Just tested Doctor Sleep and can confirm that new temp build works. But then I just tried A Quiet Place, and it was getting hung up at the "Wait..." message. Went back to the previous version and that went through just fine.

[Angryunibrow]

First Man:
Temp Build - Hangs on wait...
@yusesope - let me know if I can supply you anything when this hangs on wait... On the temp build.

V.0.0.2 - Processed just fine to 100% first try.

V.0.0.2 Mediainfo:

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Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+EL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 20 min
Bit rate                                 : 65.6 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.330
Stream size                              : 64.6 GiB (94%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 285 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 h 20 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 4 533 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 452 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Remember I use eac3to to extract all my BL & EL files, and have had zero issues.
Everyone who are having issues maybe try eac3to and see what happens.

Its been zero issues on all moves for me so far.