UHD Friendly / Official 4K

[nicolaidenmark]

Hi all,

I have a Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D revision 1.34 which works great fore 1080P BDs.

However, as 4K disc releases are increasing in number, I was wondering if there's an inexpensive, easy way to get a drive that will do this?

Previously, I was told on this forum that my current drive cannot be made UHD Friendly?

I see there's a list of UHD friendly drives, however, most of them are internal and as I cannot fit an internal in my PC, I would have to buy an enclosure ( just like I did with the Pioneer.

The cost of Internal + enclosure adds up, so I was thinking, are there any external USB (preferably 3.x) that'll work?

The majority of the drives listed on this forum is hard to come by in Denmark but I found an external 4k labeled Verbatim:

Would this work?

https://www.verbatim-europe.co.uk/en/pr ... ter-43888/

[DVD Maniac]

My advice is to ditch backing up optically. It is unreliable and more expensive per GB. If you have a reasonably large collection backing up to HDD makes much more sense providing you triple your redundancy - high initial investment but pays you back in under 3 months with media costs in mind. If you want an external turn key solution try my shop at https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/uhdtechnologyservices. I ship to your country and provide full support.

[nicolaidenmark]

My advice is to ditch backing up optically. It is unreliable and more expensive per GB. If you have a reasonably large collection backing up to HDD makes much more sense providing you triple your redundancy - high initial investment but pays you back in under 3 months with media costs in mind. If you want an external turn key solution try my shop at https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/uhdtechnologyservices. I ship to your country and provide full support.

I'm not sure I understand your post: I do backup from BD Disc to NAS HDD in Lossless MAKEMKV .mkv files. I'm not talking about copying discs to discs

[pmhCH]

Hi all,

I have a Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D revision 1.34 which works great fore 1080P BDs.

However, as 4K disc releases are increasing in number, I was wondering if there's an inexpensive, easy way to get a drive that will do this?

Previously, I was told on this forum that my current drive cannot be made UHD Friendly?

I see there's a list of UHD friendly drives, however, most of them are internal and as I cannot fit an internal in my PC, I would have to buy an enclosure ( just like I did with the Pioneer.

The cost of Internal + enclosure adds up, so I was thinking, are there any external USB (preferably 3.x) that'll work?

The majority of the drives listed on this forum is hard to come by in Denmark but I found an external 4k labeled Verbatim:

Would this work?

https://www.verbatim-europe.co.uk/en/pr ... ter-43888/

I have exactly this drive and while it works perfectly with Blu Rays, UHDs are so far not recognised.

And although labeled "Verbatim" it is a Pioneer drive: "BD-RE PIONEER BD-RW BDR-UD04 1.11d"

I already sent in a dump of the firmware. So if you need a drive working now with UHDs, better go with the Asus.

Update: with the new 1.46 release MakeMKV starts to read an UHD but then says that a libre-compatible drive is needed...

[mike admin]

I already sent in a dump of the firmware. So if you need a drive working now with UHDs, better go with the Asus.
Update: with the new 1.46 release MakeMKV starts to read an UHD but then says that a libre-compatible drive is needed...

Do you get a "keep fingers crossed" status on the right pane? If yes, you might get a working drive in a foreseeable future...

[Coopervid]

I already sent in a dump of the firmware. So if you need a drive working now with UHDs, better go with the Asus.
Update: with the new 1.46 release MakeMKV starts to read an UHD but then says that a libre-compatible drive is needed...

Do you get a "keep fingers crossed" status on the right pane? If yes, you might get a working drive in a foreseeable future...

That's what I call a good sense of humour. Great!!!

[nicolaidenmark]

I already sent in a dump of the firmware. So if you need a drive working now with UHDs, better go with the Asus.
Update: with the new 1.46 release MakeMKV starts to read an UHD but then says that a libre-compatible drive is needed...

Do you get a "keep fingers crossed" status on the right pane? If yes, you might get a working drive in a foreseeable future...

That's what I get on my Pioneer BDR 209D. You mean there's a chance?

[pmhCH]

I already sent in a dump of the firmware. So if you need a drive working now with UHDs, better go with the Asus.
Update: with the new 1.46 release MakeMKV starts to read an UHD but then says that a libre-compatible drive is needed...

Do you get a "keep fingers crossed" status on the right pane? If yes, you might get a working drive in a foreseeable future...

Indeed there's a "keep fingers crossed" - I do it all the time, so far no luck

[nicolaidenmark]

I just realized: I can't seem to find any info that my BDR-209D(BK) supports BD-XL? Isn't BDXL compatibility required for even the slightest chance of my drive becoming UHD Friendly in the future?

[MartyMcNuts]

Hi all,

I have a Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D revision 1.34 which works great fore 1080P BDs.

However, as 4K disc releases are increasing in number, I was wondering if there's an inexpensive, easy way to get a drive that will do this?

Previously, I was told on this forum that my current drive cannot be made UHD Friendly?

I see there's a list of UHD friendly drives, however, most of them are internal and as I cannot fit an internal in my PC, I would have to buy an enclosure ( just like I did with the Pioneer.

The cost of Internal + enclosure adds up, so I was thinking, are there any external USB (preferably 3.x) that'll work?

The majority of the drives listed on this forum is hard to come by in Denmark but I found an external 4k labeled Verbatim:

Would this work?

https://www.verbatim-europe.co.uk/en/pr ... ter-43888/

If you are looking for a plug'n'play external drive, you should consider the Buffalo BRUHD-PU3-BK or the Archgon MD-8107S-U3-UHD.

[nicolaidenmark]

I just realized: I can't seem to find any info that my BDR-209D(BK) supports BD-XL? Isn't BDXL compatibility required for even the slightest chance of my drive becoming UHD Friendly in the future?

No answer to this?

[Billycar11]

No answer to this?

exactly what the libredrive info section shows maybe in the future

[nicolaidenmark]

So, my drive is BDXL compatibile?

[st4evr]

So, my drive is BDXL compatibile?

"I can't seem to find any info that my BDR-209D(BK) supports BD-XL?"

Can't find info? A quick and simple Google search returns several sources on this. Example:

https://goughlui.com/2014/08/02/review- ... ay-writer/

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... JEQ4dUDCAo

In short, no BDXL support on that drive. Libredrive is NOT a magic pill or a "fix for all my problems" solution for UHD backup/ripping. Buy a proper UHD compatible drive from the guide to ensure compatibility now and in the future. Not all drives may be compatible for this and some never will be.

Or use one of these services to obtain a ready to go drive:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20

[Woodstock]

BDXL support does not necessarily mean UHD is possible. There are two "flavors" of BDXL, and UHD uses the higher-density one that became available in late 2015.

There are a lot of old-version BDXL drives out there... I own some.