That is true, but if you have a large enough hard drive or USB, you could always burn a copy to it. It would only be the main movie, but special features typically aren't included on the 4K Blu-ray anyways, so you're not missing out on much.RESET_9999 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:29 amI do the same when a movie fit a BD-50 but almost all the movies are larger than that(even without all the audio and menu) and triple-layer BD-R are very expensive. yes, you can encode it to fit a BD-50 or even a BD-25 but it's not an option when you only want to watch the best quality possible.mercwithamouth wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:02 pm I used DVDFab's UHD Copy to burn a movie file onto a blank Blu-ray disc yesterday and, as it turns out, it keeps the Dolby Vision AND the lossless Dolby Atmos track. I downloaded Rocketman (found an HEVC upload of it, which is the entire disc including Dolby Vision), and after burning a copy onto the blank disc, I played it on my Sony UBP-X700 Blu-ray player. Sure enough, this popped up. I have yet to test a rip of one of my 4K Blu-rays, but I'm sure it'll work roughly the same.
Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
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mercwithamouth
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omk1980
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
For the time being, until more advances can be made, would you recommend backing up a decrypted copy of a DV uhd through make mkv or should I try and find out how to turn the disc to an iso file.
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Silergo
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Finally found you, I have a question about you Dolby Vision creation guide on other forum, but can't pm you here. How can I contact you?
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steffenmanden
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Awesome progress being made here!
Now we just need PGS support as well and it might actually make mkv the format of the past!
Really look forward to seeing the next steps
Now we just need PGS support as well and it might actually make mkv the format of the past!
Really look forward to seeing the next steps
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Woodstock
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MP4 does NOT support PGS subtitles, period. The only reason it supports VOB subtitles is via "well supported" unofficial extension to the standard.
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RESET_9999
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you can add subtitles in srt. format.steffenmanden wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:52 pm Awesome progress being made here!
Now we just need PGS support as well and it might actually make mkv the format of the past!
Really look forward to seeing the next steps
play fine on my TV but not with the bluray player.
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mp4box.exe -add X:\DV.mp4:rate=0 -add X:\lpcm.mov#audio:lang=en-EN -add X:\en.srt#subtitle:lang=en-EN -add X:\fr.srt#subtitle:lang=fr-FR -tmp X:\ -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 -no-iod X:\DV.remux-7.1.mp4
Format : Timed Text
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 32 b/s
Stream size : 30.2 KiB (0%)
Title : srt#subtitle:lang=en-EN@GPAC0.9.0-DEV-rev2671-g6d57ee94-filters
Language : English
Forced : No
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steffenmanden
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Wasn't this what people said about lossless audio also ?Woodstock wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:26 pm MP4 does NOT support PGS subtitles, period. The only reason it supports VOB subtitles is via "well supported" unofficial extension to the standard.
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steffenmanden
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Yea, that just makes a lot of extra work when ripping your own discsRESET_9999 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:07 pmyou can add subtitles in srt. format.steffenmanden wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:52 pm Awesome progress being made here!
Now we just need PGS support as well and it might actually make mkv the format of the past!
Really look forward to seeing the next steps
play fine on my TV but not with the bluray player.
Code: Select all
mp4box.exe -add X:\DV.mp4:rate=0 -add X:\lpcm.mov#audio:lang=en-EN -add X:\en.srt#subtitle:lang=en-EN -add X:\fr.srt#subtitle:lang=fr-FR -tmp X:\ -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 -no-iod X:\DV.remux-7.1.mp4
Format : Timed Text
Codec ID : tx3g
Duration : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 32 b/s
Stream size : 30.2 KiB (0%)
Title : srt#subtitle:lang=en-EN@GPAC0.9.0-DEV-rev2671-g6d57ee94-filters
Language : English
Forced : No
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yusesope
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
All right, you've found me. I surrenderSilergo wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:22 pm Finally found you, I have a question about you Dolby Vision creation guide on other forum, but can't pm you here. How can I contact you?
How can I help you?
You can write directly here, in this thread.
You just gave me an idea.mercwithamouth wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:09 pm That is true, but if you have a large enough hard drive or USB, you could always burn a copy to it.
Instead of using a simple USB device, why not build a SMART USB device!

The new Raspberry pi 4 (like the old models A, A+ and Pi Zero) implements a USB (Type-C) On-The-Go (OTG. Official info HERE). It would thus be possible to connect devices that do not have the ability to use network protocols directly to a NAS/Server (Samba, NFS, etc...).
Another advantage could be that you don't have to wait two weeks before data transfer it's over (mechanical Hard Disk, slow USB 3.0 Transfer, etc...).
Some devices also do not allow playback of certain video/audio formats over DLNA; others may present bugs.
More information HERE and HERE (post number 10 is enlightening) in case anyone's interested.
I wish you all a good day!
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Silergo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Ok, here's the thing: your test file (https://pcdn-my.pcloud.com/publink/show ... 5KfjfgGwOX) plays great on TV and Apple TV. But when I tried to create mine it hang the TV or even turn if off. I compared you file and mine so they'll be the same in MediaInfo, and also tried to play raw file just created from DVDfab (only used mp4box -splitx for videosample), but it doesn't work. Maybe I should change something in hex editor or something?yusesope wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:16 am All right, you've found me. I surrender.
How can I help you?
You can write directly here, in this thread.
Here is my sample just in case: https://fex.net/s/losdyon
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yusesope
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
As you said, the two files are structurally "almost" identical.Silergo wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:35 pm Ok, here's the thing: your test file (https://pcdn-my.pcloud.com/publink/show ... 5KfjfgGwOX) plays great on TV and Apple TV. But when I tried to create mine it hang the TV or even turn if off. I compared you file and mine so they'll be the same in MediaInfo, and also tried to play raw file just created from DVDfab (only used mp4box -splitx for videosample), but it doesn't work. Maybe I should change something in hex editor or something?
Here is my sample just in case: https://fex.net/s/losdyon
I have edited your file to smooth out some minor differences.
You can find your modified video sample HERE.
I don't think that my my modification will changes anything (the differences were really minimal and negligible) but you should still try to play the file on your TV.
If it works, I'll explain what I've done.
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Silergo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Yeah, unfortunately nothing changes.yusesope wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:13 am I don't think that my my modification will changes anything (the differences were really minimal and negligible) but you should still try to play the file on your TV.
If it works, I'll explain what I've done.
Still don't understand, some people can play file and some don't (most of them have LG C8-C9). Even someone Sony UBP-X700 give green stripes. But Apple TV with infuse play this file with no problem. The only difference between our files is Mastering display luminance. Is it really give affect for playback?
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yusesope
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
Color space and luminance range can affect playback on some devices (you should read THIS post). There is also the fact that the DVDFab algorithm is not the "standard way" to obtain a proper mp4 DV mux.Silergo wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:16 pm The only difference between our files is Mastering display luminance. Is it really give affect for playback?
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tr000
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Wow, much progress being made. I have extensive knowledge in this area but it seems @yusesope's got the bases covered here! Currently, I have been enjoying Dolby Vision quite nicely on my TCL TV. It took a https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 358#p76356 lot of growing pains but I've finally reached a state of relative zen with regards to DV where it once gave me migraines and the plague. I've surmised my TV only supports profile 5, and also supports E-AC3 but as to whether lossless audio packaged in a E-AC3 format works (Meridian), I don't think so, but I'll have to test it. I'm pretty sure it threw an error when I tried but that was a while ago.
Regarding my experiences with DV, DVDFab's Profile 5 conversion was atrocious for Godzilla: King of the Monsters, I don't know if this is the Roku Media Player's fault but every so often it would stop showing subtitles, the video would get wonky, and it would say "loading..." forever. I then had to restart the video and precisely fast forward to just after the glitched part and it'd play fine. Happened at three or four points.
Next, Dolby MP4 Muxer. I took a raw .m2ts from The Secret Life of Pets 2 Blu-ray, converted the True-HD Atmos to AC3, got the base layer and enhancement layer and used dv-profile-5. This played perfectly on my TV, and it was honestly such a relief to not have to be worried about something going wrong while the family was watching and having to hear them groan as I try to remedy the issue as a result of my insatiable desire to experience everything in the best quality possible. However, the video did get a little jerky towards the end of the film. It'd hang for a split second like every third frame or so. Not enough to cause major disturbance, but passable.
Right now, I've just obtained John Wick 3 and am using the tool made by @Grencola. I tried it on a Blu-ray of Transformers a couple weeks ago and while it played it gave me that loading issue at certain points, except it would just refuse to play after a certain point. I had to do the manual MP4 Mux to get a working version. Let's see how this turns out, maybe it'll produce a perfect file. Would save me a lot of trouble.
Regarding my experiences with DV, DVDFab's Profile 5 conversion was atrocious for Godzilla: King of the Monsters, I don't know if this is the Roku Media Player's fault but every so often it would stop showing subtitles, the video would get wonky, and it would say "loading..." forever. I then had to restart the video and precisely fast forward to just after the glitched part and it'd play fine. Happened at three or four points.
Next, Dolby MP4 Muxer. I took a raw .m2ts from The Secret Life of Pets 2 Blu-ray, converted the True-HD Atmos to AC3, got the base layer and enhancement layer and used dv-profile-5. This played perfectly on my TV, and it was honestly such a relief to not have to be worried about something going wrong while the family was watching and having to hear them groan as I try to remedy the issue as a result of my insatiable desire to experience everything in the best quality possible. However, the video did get a little jerky towards the end of the film. It'd hang for a split second like every third frame or so. Not enough to cause major disturbance, but passable.
Right now, I've just obtained John Wick 3 and am using the tool made by @Grencola. I tried it on a Blu-ray of Transformers a couple weeks ago and while it played it gave me that loading issue at certain points, except it would just refuse to play after a certain point. I had to do the manual MP4 Mux to get a working version. Let's see how this turns out, maybe it'll produce a perfect file. Would save me a lot of trouble.
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Strange Design
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.
This would be a major time saver for my use case (dual-layer DV playback on a Phillips BDP-7502 as an AVCHD folder via USB). I read the links you posted but my Linux troubleshooting ability is limited, so I’m curious if you were able to get it working. Thanks in advance.yusesope wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:16 am You just gave me an idea.
Instead of using a simple USB device, why not build a SMART USB device!
The new Raspberry pi 4 (like the old models A, A+ and Pi Zero) implements a USB (Type-C) On-The-Go (OTG. Official info HERE). It would thus be possible to connect devices that do not have the ability to use network protocols directly to a NAS/Server (Samba, NFS, etc...).
Another advantage could be that you don't have to wait two weeks before data transfer it's over (mechanical Hard Disk, slow USB 3.0 Transfer, etc...).
Some devices also do not allow playback of certain video/audio formats over DLNA; others may present bugs.
More information HERE and HERE (post number 10 is enlightening) in case anyone's interested.
I wish you all a good day!