Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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According to the instructions in the manual, it should not even recognize an mp4 with LPCM audio.

Well, the x700 supports the following audio format/combination(the one I tried):

works
MKV: AC3, AAC,DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-x
M2TS/TS: AC3, AAC, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-X, TrueHD Atmos, e-ac3
MP4: AAC, AC3, LPCM

player says unsupported format:
MKV: EAC3, TrueHD Atmos(because mkv split the core from the truehd)

player says nothing(like if there is no audio at all):
MP4: DTS family

all cinavia free via USB.

[Grencola]

I'm using a Sony x700 with an OLED TV and so far, only the file with 7.1 lpcm works. When I make a DV mp4 with DTS-X, DTS-HD or even DTS, it plays in DV without sound. It doesn't even say '' audio not supported'', just like there isn't any audio in the file.

btw, I watched two complete movies in Dual layer with lossless 7.1 lpcm without any issue. this is really awesome.

just to clarify, and remind myself, dual layer mp4s show dolby vision on both the tv and the player? and m2ts / mkv is only hdr10?

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I'm using a Sony x700 with an OLED TV and so far, only the file with 7.1 lpcm works. When I make a DV mp4 with DTS-X, DTS-HD or even DTS, it plays in DV without sound. It doesn't even say '' audio not supported'', just like there isn't any audio in the file.

btw, I watched two complete movies in Dual layer with lossless 7.1 lpcm without any issue. this is really awesome.

just to clarify, and remind myself, dual layer mp4s show dolby vision on both the tv and the player? and m2ts / mkv is only hdr10?

Hi
yes, all the mp4 trigger DV and play fine with 7.1 lpcm on the TV and x700 player.
my setup is:
Sony X700 -----> Denon X3200W ------> LG OLED C8

m2ts and mkv only play in HDR because there's nothing yet to author DV in these containers. I think the best solution would be in a .TS container since that supports all the lossless audio and DV single layer(I would guess dual-layer too).

[Grencola]

Hi
yes, all the mp4 trigger DV and play fine with 7.1 lpcm on the TV and x700 player.
my setup is:
Sony X700 -----> Denon X3200W ------> LG OLED C8

ok cool thx!

m2ts and mkv only play in HDR because there's nothing yet to author DV in these containers. I think the best solution would be in a .TS container since that supports all the lossless audio and DV single layer(I would guess dual-layer too).

yeah exactly, that's why I've already asked DVDFab to change from mp4 to ts container weeks ago, but they never responded
hey you don't have a fire tv stick 4k by chance do you?

[Redhawk2000]

Hi
yes, all the mp4 trigger DV and play fine with 7.1 lpcm on the TV and x700 player.
my setup is:
Sony X700 -----> Denon X3200W ------> LG OLED C8

ok cool thx!

m2ts and mkv only play in HDR because there's nothing yet to author DV in these containers. I think the best solution would be in a .TS container since that supports all the lossless audio and DV single layer(I would guess dual-layer too).

yeah exactly, that's why I've already asked DVDFab to change from mp4 to ts container weeks ago, but they never responded
hey you don't have a fire tv stick 4k by chance do you?

I have firestick 4k attached to an LG C9 if you want me to try a test file sometime.

[Grencola]

hey you don't have a fire tv stick 4k by chance do you?

I have firestick 4k attached to an LG C9 if you want me to try a test file sometime.

whoa cool, my new TV arrives Friday so I'm in between testing right now. I've read that the new emby beta app for it will do single layer dvhe.05.06 with 7.1 pcm audio as it's based on exoplayer2. I'm not sure if you've made any single layer mp4s with dvdfab yet and put lpcm into them, but if so it would definitely be cool to try out.. I feel like you could probably then just set kodi's external player in the xml to emby/exo and get DV working in that even! here's a quick discussion with a link to the beta if any of that sounds enticing: https://emby.media/community/index.php? ... -4k/page-1

[Donpoku]

Is Dvdfab single layer or dual layers and is there quality difference in between the two and profiles e.g 5 ,7 etc

[Grencola]

Is Dvdfab single layer or dual layers and is there quality difference in between the two and profiles e.g 5 ,7 etc

it has an option for both, and if you choose copy-video there's no perceivable quality difference.

[Redhawk2000]

hey you don't have a fire tv stick 4k by chance do you?

I have firestick 4k attached to an LG C9 if you want me to try a test file sometime.

whoa cool, my new TV arrives Friday so I'm in between testing right now. I've read that the new emby beta app for it will do single layer dvhe.05.06 with 7.1 pcm audio as it's based on exoplayer2. I'm not sure if you've made any single layer mp4s with dvdfab yet and put lpcm into them, but if so it would definitely be cool to try out.. I feel like you could probably then just set kodi's external player in the xml to emby/exo and get DV working in that even! here's a quick discussion with a link to the beta if any of that sounds enticing: https://emby.media/community/index.php? ... -4k/page-1

The problem that I'll have that I foolishly didn't think of is this: yes I have the stick and the C9, but I don't have a receiver that will pass through DV, only hdr10. So I have the stick attached to the TV. The tv does support eARC but my receiver doesn't. This doesn't affect me currently because I don't get lossless audio through the stick. I can get DD+/Atmos (lossy) with it via regular ARC. But even if my AVR did support eARC, the C9 for some reason currently will only passthrough PCM as stereo. It's an issue that is known of and complained about on forums as apparently the new Sony handles it fine. So in summary, I guess I would only be able to test for DV, but not audio. I haven't been motivated enough to try this yet due to my setup. If DV becomes fully playable via windows 10 htpc with lossless audio, I'll be very tempted to get a new AVR.

[Grencola]

The problem that I'll have that I foolishly didn't think of is this: yes I have the stick and the C9, but I don't have a receiver that will pass through DV, only hdr10. So I have the stick attached to the TV. The tv does support eARC but my receiver doesn't. This doesn't affect me currently because I don't get lossless audio through the stick. I can get DD+/Atmos (lossy) with it via regular ARC. But even if my AVR did support eARC, the C9 for some reason currently will only passthrough PCM as stereo. It's an issue that is known of and complained about on forums as apparently the new Sony handles it fine. So in summary, I guess I would only be able to test for DV, but not audio. I haven't been motivated enough to try this yet due to my setup. If DV becomes fully playable via windows 10 htpc with lossless audio, I'll be very tempted to get a new AVR.

Ah no worries, I totally get it.

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hey you don't have a fire tv stick 4k by chance do you?

no, I have only the appleTV 4K but I don't think it supports dual-layer mp4 and I don't have dvdfab for the single-layer mp4.

yeah exactly, that's why I've already asked DVDFab to change from mp4 to ts container weeks ago, but they never responded

great!! if someone can figure it out, it's them. I hope they are working on it.

[Grencola]

no, I have only the appleTV 4K but I don't think it supports dual-layer mp4 and I don't have dvdfab for the single-layer mp4.

Nah it only supports single layer, using MrMC:
https://forum.mrmc.tv/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=320

[MastaG]

So after reading most of this thread it's still not clear to me which is the most compatible format across different TV's, mediaplayer.
I own a LG C8 and I compiled Dolby's mp4 muxer to remux the base and enhanced layers + ac3 audio into a mp4 container which plays fine on my device.
But afaik AppleTV will only play single layer DV videos.

So if I go and buy the DVDFab thing, I'll be able to "merge" the two layers into a single PES without losing quality right?
And if I store this in lets say a MKV container with different audio tracks I'll be able to play it on both my LG and AppleTV?

[RESET_9999]

So after reading most of this thread it's still not clear to me which is the most compatible format across different TV's, mediaplayer.
I own a LG C8 and I compiled Dolby's mp4 muxer to remux the base and enhanced layers + ac3 audio into a mp4 container which plays fine on my device.
But afaik AppleTV will only play single layer DV videos.

So if I go and buy the DVDFab thing, I'll be able to "merge" the two layers into a single PES without losing quality right?
And if I store this in lets say a MKV container with different audio tracks I'll be able to play it on both my LG and AppleTV?

If you store it in a MKV container, you will lose dolby vision and the dual-layer DV will play in HDR but the single layer DV won't play at all.
and yes, dvdfab single layer remux is lossless, no quality loss.
I just did one single layer mp4 remux with DTS-X, I wonder if mrmc support lossless audio passthrough ?? anyway I will try later tonight and report back.

[Grencola]

If you store it in a MKV container, you will lose dolby vision and the dual-layer DV will play in HDR but the single layer DV won't play at all.
and yes, dvdfab single layer remux is lossless, no quality loss.
I just did one single layer mp4 remux with DTS-X, I wonder if mrmc support lossless audio passthrough ?? anyway I will try later tonight and report back.

I see you still have ac3 audio on there as well as dts:x. if you uncheck audio in dvdfab you can make an mp4 with no sound at first, then add the dts after. just saying cuz some tvs / players only see the first audio stream and does t let you switch between the two. and mrmc will passthrough lossless audio in the form of lpcm 7.1. I'm not sure if it keeps Metadata for dts:x or not, but here's the discussion: https://forum.mrmc.tv/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... &start=320 maybe go back through the last few pages and you can try a bunch of samples and read results etc.