Downton Abby Season 6

[Eddie Felson]

Downton Abby Season 6 arrived today via Amazon USA, it says "Original UK Edition" but the packaging says nothing about PAL or Region, If it is PAL and Region 2 I may be unable to play the Blu-Ray disks directly in my OPPO.

The copy protection sceama looks just like all the prior Downton Abby seasons, that is one gets maybe a hundred "titles" with the segments all randomly listed in any sort of order.

For my first pass I will discard any title that puts the entire disk contents or more than one episode into a fake "title".

That still leaves me with maybe 50 titles on disk 1, and disk 3, when maybe only 3-4 of those are the real ones

Disk 2 is "normal" , or unscrambled.

Any ideas on how to proceed next? Just search for titles with segments in-order and in-sequence or would that be too easy?

Thank you

[Eddie Felson]

I am pleased to report that even though the packaging clearly reads "Original UK Edition" the disks are neither PAL nor Region 2. They play in my OPPO just fine.

[padova908]

This is what AnyDVD has told me are the good playlists for bluray disk 1 (region a [US/Canada]): 319, 445, 475, 990

I've determined that:
Episode 1 = 990 (Segment map: 101,12,113,289,111,109,114,103,105,104,108,110,112,115,106)
Episode 2 = 475 (Segment map: 13)
Episode 3 = 319 (Segment map: 102)
combined = 445 (Segment map: 101,12,113,289,111,109,114,103,105,104,108,110,112,115,106,13,102)

Tomorrow I'll take a look at disk 2 and 3 to see what is going on there. The only thing is I don't know any episodes past 4 because they haven't aired on PBS yet

Hope that helps so far.

[Eddie Felson]

That is very helpful, thank you. It does play properly in my my OPPO, so last night I finished watching the whole season.

Disk 2 is is straight forward without any segment map games.

Today, but not now, we will learn if the disks I have are the same segment map as region 1 [us/canada]

anyDVD the program or the forum?

Thank you again

[Eddie Felson]

That is very helpful, thank you. It does play properly in my my OPPO, so last night I finished watching the whole season.

Disk 2 is is straight forward without any segment map games.

Today, but not now, we will learn if the disks I have are the same segment map as region 1 [us/canada]

anyDVD the program or the forum?

Thank you again

[padova908]

AnyDVD the program (worth the lifetime subscription IMO). I use it to rip the entire disk on something this heavily obfuscated.

This is what the status window gives:

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD HD 7.6.8.0, BDPHash.bin 15-08-10)
HL-DT-ST BD-REWH14NS40 1.01 N1A12A1K92DBD85110
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Current profile: BD-ROM
Media is a Blu-ray disc.

Total size: 19890432 sectors (38848 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: DOWNTON ABBEY SEASON 6 D1
Media is AACS protected!
Drive supports bus encryption!
AACS MKB version 57
Removed AACS copy protection!
Determined region(s): A
Removed Sony structural copy protection!
Java BD protection good playlists: 319, 445, 475, 990

Then I use MakeMKV to extract the correct individual episodes before encoding and putting on my media server.

[padova908]

Disk 2:

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD HD 7.6.8.0, BDPHash.bin 15-08-10)
HL-DT-ST BD-REWH14NS40 1.01 N1A12A1K92DBD85110
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Current profile: BD-ROM
Media is a Blu-ray disc.

Total size: 21797504 sectors (42573 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: DOWNTON ABBEY SEASON 6 D2
Media is AACS protected!
Drive supports bus encryption!
AACS MKB version 57
Removed AACS copy protection!
Determined region(s): A
Removed Sony structural copy protection!
Java BD protection good playlists: 208, 617, 627, 730, 795


Disk 3:

Summary for drive E: (AnyDVD HD 7.6.8.0, BDPHash.bin 15-08-10)
HL-DT-ST BD-REWH14NS40 1.01 N1A12A1K92DBD85110
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Current profile: BD-ROM
Media is a Blu-ray disc.

Total size: 22450016 sectors (43847 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: DOWNTON ABBEY SEASON 6 D3
Media is AACS protected!
Drive supports bus encryption!
AACS MKB version 57
Removed AACS copy protection!
Determined region(s): A
Removed Sony structural copy protection!
Java BD protection good playlists: 317, 354, 558

looks like 317 is the Christmas Special, 354 probably Ep. 8, and 558 would be the combined.

[Eddie Felson]

thank you, any mechanic should have full set of tools, I'll invest in anyDVD today or at least look into it,

Thanks again

2/4/16 - My mom wants to keep the disks for another week, it could be 2 weeks before I get around to ripping them.

Thanks again

[ckb11]

Tomorrow I'll take a look at disk 2 and 3 to see what is going on there. The only thing is I don't know any episodes past 4 because they haven't aired on PBS yet

Hope that helps so far.

Any update on disk 2 and 3? These just came out and I am eager to watch them.
Thanks!

[padova908]

I believe these are the correct titles for disk 2:

Episode 4 - 617 (segment map: 8 )
Episode 5 - 730 (segment map: 13)
Episode 6 - 795 (segment map: 12)
Episode 7 - 208 (segment map: 15)


disk 3:

Episode 8 - 354 (segment map: 105,115,108,13,113,112,109,102,107,114,111,110,103,106,104)
Episode 9 - 317 (segment map: 2)

bonus materials (also disk 3):
'Farewell to Highclere' - 14 (segment map: 14)
'The Cars of Downton' - 15 (segment map: 15)
'Changing Times at Downton' - 18 (segment map: 18)

[poconnor]

padova908 provided some great information about each episode. I found the when I used the playlists (repeated here from the prior post);
Episode 1 = 990 (Segment map: 101,12,113,289,111,109,114,103,105,104,108,110,112,115,106)
Episode 2 = 475 (Segment map: 13)
Episode 3 = 319 (Segment map: 102)
that Episode 1 and 2 only converted to 11:43 and 13:34 minutes, respectively, in duration using Handbrake. Which seems odd because Handbrake shows that those episodes should be 1:09:33 and 49:27, respectively. This is especially frustrating, since episode 2 shows to be only one segment. I am using Handbrake 0.10.5. I know that this is a MakeMKV forum. But, any feedback/guidance as to why those two playlists do not convert properly would be helpful. For reference, episode 3 converted without issue.

thanx,
pmo

[padova908]

pmo,

Sorry to hear about the encoding problems. I did use Handbrake a few times years ago but decided to ditch it because I found it too cumbersome and difficult with all those settings, switched to MeGUI which was a little easier to use with great results but had some issues with audio/video sync from time to time.

Then I found VidCoder (http://www.videohelp.com/software/VidCoder). This program is just plain awesome. It uses the Handbrake encoding engine but with a MUCH simpler GUI. It took a very short time to learn my way around it's settings and it gives me great results with whatever I throw at it. I encoded the Downton s06 playlists above without a hitch and IMO they look as good as the blurays along with the hundreds of other DVD's and Blurays that I own (never once a sync issue).

If you're as frustrated as I once was with Handbrake, give VidCoder a try. I think you might like it.

Hope that helps...

[Woodstock]

Just remember that, when you use Vidcoder, tech support comes from Vidcoder, not handbrake.

[DowntonFan]

Help: Can't get to the bonus material off of Disc 3.
a) The xxx.mpls numbers for Episodes were spot on.
b) The xx.mpls numbers for the Bonus aren't there.
c) Tried extracting both based on time and file size, but it hasn't worked.
d) I'm lost now.

Info:
MakeMKV v1.10.2 [darwin(x86-release)]
OSX 10.11.6
MacPro Mid 2010 (Aluminum Beast)
2.8ghz Quad Core Xeon
12gig/480gig SSD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 4gig
30TB of Hard Drives

[sdashper]

Many thanks to all the others on here who have sorted out the messy Downton Abbey Blu-Rays for Seasons 5, 6, and Bonus discs. (I think Seasons 1 - 4 were unaffected)

Recapping... The disc authors used trickery on most of these discs to overwhelm someone using a ripping tool like MakeMKV. They took one episode on each disc, took a section out of the middle, cut that into about 15 short segments, and then created maybe 50 *.mpls files, each with the segments randomly out of order. Only one of the .mpls files is the right one for an episode. Somehow your BluRay player can tell which one is the right one to play, but MakeMKV can't, so it lists maybe 200 titles to choose from. Some have used AnyDVD HD to figure out the correct files. Others have looked for patterns in the mess (like ignoring all the .mpls files with a trailing "(1)" or "(2)"). Other times, it's trial and error. If you rip the wrong file, it will play ok until it hits the section of scrambled segments, at which point the video will play scenes in the wrong order for a little while, and then it will end OK. This makes it tedious and time consuming but not impossible to rip the discs correctly. It becomes a "needle in a haystack" problem. Note that segments are much shorter than chapters. A bad version of the title might seem OK if you quickly flip through its 7 chapters. Segments are shorter (sometimes one minute or less), so a whole batch of them might only be 5-10 minutes of playback.

Below is a list of all the episodes in one place (for the next victim). Basically, you'll need to run through the LONG list of titles that MakeMVK presents. Pay attention to the Track Info window to the right. For example, Season 5 Episode 1, rip the title with source file name "00802.mpls" (or output file name ending with "t163").

Hope this helps.

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Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1 (Blu-Ray 14 of 21)

SEASON 5 EPISODE 1
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00802.mpls
Duration: 1:09:32
Chapters count: 7
Size: 13.2 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 107
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1_t163.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 2
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00631.mpls
Duration: 0:49:47
Chapters count: 6
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 109
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1_t129.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 3
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00709.mpls
Duration: 0:49:46
Chapters count: 5
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 101,114,102,111,106,8,258,104,115,112,12,108,105,110,103
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1_t145.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 1, 2, 3 COMBINED
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00406.mpls
Duration: 2:49:06
Chapters count: 18
Size: 32.1 GB
Segment count: 17
Segment map: 107,109,101,114,102,111,106,8,258,104,115,112,12,108,105,110,103
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 1_t83.mkv

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Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (Blu-Ray 15 of 21)

SEASON 5 EPISODE 4
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00457.mpls
Duration: 0:49:46
Chapters count: 5
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 104
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2_t90.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 5
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00972.mpls
Duration: 0:49:47
Chapters count: 5
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 114
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2_t203.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 6
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00334.mpls
Duration: 0:49:46
Chapters count: 5
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 115,111,2,112,106,107,108,113,103,110,102,625,109,13,15
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2_t69.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 7
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00887.mpls
Duration: 0:49:46
Chapters count: 5
Size: 9.4 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 12
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2_t183.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODES 4, 5, 6, 7 COMBINED
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00521.mpls
Duration: 3:19:06
Chapters count: 20
Size: 37.7 GB
Segment count: 18
Segment map: 104,114,115,111,2,112,106,107,108,113,103,110,102,625,109,13,15,12
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 2_t102.mkv

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Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3 (Blu-Ray 16 of 21)

SEASON 5 EPISODE 8
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00806.mpls
Duration: 1:09:53
Chapters count: 8
Size: 12.2 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 112,107,13,2,102,116,108,347,110,111,104,109,113,106,103
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3_t160.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODE 9
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00467.mpls
Duration: 1:37:36
Chapters count: 7
Size: 17.1 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 115
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3_t89.mkv

SEASON 5 EPISODES 8, 9 COMBINED
Name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00649.mpls
Duration: 2:47:30
Chapters count: 15
Size: 29.3 GB
Segment count: 16
Segment map: 112,107,13,2,102,116,108,347,110,111,104,109,113,106,103,115
File name: Downton Abbey Season 5 Disc 3_t127.mkv

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Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1 (Blu-Ray 17 of 21)

SEASON 6 EPISODE 1
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00990.mpls
Duration: 1:09:33
Chapters count: 8
Size: 15.2 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 101,12,113,289,111,109,114,103,105,104,108,110,112,115,106
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1_t300.mkv

SEASON 6 EPISODE 2
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00475.mpls
Duration: 0:49:27
Chapters count: 5
Size: 10.8 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 13
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1_t145.mkv

SEASON 6 EPISODE 3
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00319.mpls
Duration: 0:49:34
Chapters count: 5
Size: 10.8 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 102
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1_t97.mkv

SEASON 6 EPISODES 1, 2, 3 COMBINED
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1 (English)
Source file name: 00445.mpls
Duration: 2:48:36
Chapters count: 18
Size: 36.9 GB
Segment count: 17
Segment map: 101,12,113,289,111,109,114,103,105,104,108,110,112,115,106,13,102
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 1_t135.mkv

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Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 2 (Blu-Ray 18 of 21)

SEASON 6 EPISODE 4
SEASON 6 EPISODE 5
SEASON 6 EPISODE 6
SEASON 6 EPISODE 7

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Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (Blu-Ray 19 of 21)

SEASON 6 EPISODE 8
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00354.mpls
Duration: 1:15:51
Chapters count: 9
Size: 15.5 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 105,115,108,13,113,112,109,102,107,114,111,110,103,106,104
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t102.mkv

SEASON 6 EPISODE 9
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00317.mpls
Duration: 1:37:48
Chapters count: 10
Size: 19.9 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 2
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t86.mkv

SEASON 6 EPISODES 8, 9 COMBINED
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00558.mpls
Duration: 2:53:39
Chapters count: 19
Size: 35.5 GB
Segment count: 16
Segment map: 105,115,108,13,113,112,109,102,107,114,111,110,103,106,104,2
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t163.mkv

FAREWELL TO HIGHCLERE
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00014.m2ts
Duration: 0:06:55
Size: 1.4 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 14
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t304.mkv

THE CARS OF DOWNTON
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00015.m2ts
Duration: 0:11:03
Size: 2.2 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 15
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t305.mkv

CHANGING TIMES AT DOWNTON
Name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3 (English)
Source file name: 00018.m2ts
Duration: 0:14:17
Size: 2.9 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 18
File name: Downton Abbey Season 6 Disc 3_t307.mkv

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Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 1 (Blu-Ray 20 of 21)

CHARACTER DOCUMENTARIES (7)
DOWNTON ABBEY CREATORS' FAVORITE SCENES

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Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 2 (Blu-Ray 21 of 21)

DOWNTON ABBEY SUPERCUTS
Name: Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00001.mpls
Duration: 0:31:31
Chapters count: 9
Size: 6.9 GB
Segment count: 9
Segment map: 13,14,15,18,19,8,17,20,21
File name: Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 2_t00.mkv

THE STORY OF DOWNTON ABBEY
Name: Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 2 (English)
Source file name: 00693.mpls
Duration: 1:39:10
Chapters count: 10
Size: 21.7 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 506,510,511,504,505,508,501,500,503,507,509,513,512,514,502
File name: Downton Abbey Bonus Disc 2_t212.mkv

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