DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

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mancolh
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DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#1 Post by mancolh » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:18 pm

I am a user of PLEX on a MAC Mini with OSX Mavericks so no HD audio but PLEX will convert TrueHD to PCM. Is there a profile that will convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC and also leave a copy of itself and not convert TrueHD but leave a copy. In this way I can use PLEX and PCM or my Dune HD and bitstream.

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#2 Post by etrask » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:20 am

mancolh wrote:I am a user of PLEX on a MAC Mini with OSX Mavericks so no HD audio but PLEX will convert TrueHD to PCM. Is there a profile that will convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC and also leave a copy of itself and not convert TrueHD but leave a copy. In this way I can use PLEX and PCM or my Dune HD and bitstream.
I believe this should be possible. You'd want something like this in your conversion profile:

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<trackSettings input="DTSHDMA-multi">
     <output outputSettingsName="flac-best"
             defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true">
     </output>
</trackSettings>
<trackSettings input="TRUEHD-multi">
     <output outputSettingsName="copy">
             defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true">
     </output>
</trackSettings>
Or similar (sorry I've not a lot of experience editing the MMCPs, this could be horribly wrong. I'm just going by what I understand from this thread).

I've also assumed your tracks are multi-channel (more than stereo). Otherwise you'll need a couple more trackSettings blocks in there for DTSHDMA-stereo and TRUEHD-stereo, but the idea is the same.

Hope this helps, happy ripping!

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#3 Post by etrask » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:25 am

mancolh wrote:I am a user of PLEX on a MAC Mini with OSX Mavericks so no HD audio but PLEX will convert TrueHD to PCM. Is there a profile that will convert DTS-HD MA to FLAC and also leave a copy of itself and not convert TrueHD but leave a copy. In this way I can use PLEX and PCM or my Dune HD and bitstream.
Bah, I shoud add that that same thread says that if more than one output type is specified for the same input, they are both put into the resulting MKV. So really you'd want something like this:

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<trackSettings input="DTSHDMA-multi"
    <output outputSettingsName="flac-best"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true">
</trackSettings>
<trackSettings input="DTSHDMA-multi">
    <output outputSettingsName="copy"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true">
</trackSettings>
<trackSettings input="TRUEHD-multi"
    <output outputSettingsName="copy"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true>
</trackSettings>
Notice we specify DTS-HD MA twice, with two different output formats. Both should be options for the output MKV in MakeMKV now!

(I hope... I'm still pretty new at this and can't test this myself right now. Someone more knowledgable please be gentle in correcting me :P )

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#4 Post by mancolh » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:57 pm

Thanks. I will give that a try and post back if it works.

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#5 Post by mancolh » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:34 pm

Well, I gave it a try and unless I formatted wrong, it looks like we are only allowed one decoding selection per track. Maybe Mike can find a way to offer this feature, Here is the error:

MakeMKV v1.8.12 darwin(x86-release) started
Profile parsing error: duplicate track settings for input format '21'
Failed to load conversion profile from file '/Applications/MakeMKV.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/flac.mmcp.xml'
Optical drive "BD-ROM ASUS SBC-06D1S-U A301" opened in DASPI v1.4 mode

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#6 Post by mancolh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:39 pm

Got it.

I am new to xml editing but when I loaded the flac profile in notepad xml editor and added the extra outputs properly it worked. Thanks for the help

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#7 Post by etrask » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:36 am

Glad to help.

Don't know why only one of my responses actually got posted here, oh well.
Anyway the post that didn't show linked to this, which can help for conversion profiles.

Happy ripping.

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#8 Post by etrask » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:27 am

mancolh wrote:Got it.

I am new to xml editing but when I loaded the flac profile in notepad xml editor and added the extra outputs properly it worked. Thanks for the help
Now that I've tried it myself I see what I did wrong.

For anyone else's reference, in case they have a similar question: I was wrong to make a second trackSettings block. We really only need to make a second output tag inside that block. So mancolh's working conversion profile probably has something similar to this in it:

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<trackSettings input="DTSHDMA-multi"
    <output outputSettingsName="flac-best"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true">
    <output outputSettingsName="copy"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString">
</trackSettings>
<trackSettings input="TRUEHD-multi"
    <output outputSettingsName="copy"
            defaultSelection="$app_DefaultSelectionString,+sel:true>
</trackSettings>
Two (or more) output blocks under a given trackSettings block makes all of those outputs appear as options in the MakeMKV GUI.

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Re: DTS-HD MA -> FLAC and keep both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD

#9 Post by mancolh » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:24 pm

Hi etrask,

That is exactly how it looks and works great. I am now going through my collection and re ripping the .mkv files. It would be nice if I knew of a quick way (batching perhaps?) to reconvert all these files.

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