So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

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deesea
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So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#1 Post by deesea » Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:52 am

I did my homework, googled it, wikipedia'd it. For the non-savvy decrypto process in me ( savvy in other stuff ), what does it take, plain and simple for the common mortal ?

A BD+ drive ?
A newer and improved makemkv that washes cleaner and brighter ?


-deesea

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#2 Post by kevmitch » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:32 am

My understanding is that whatever version of makemkv you have, it transparently "phones home" to get the latest decryption keys available. I have never encountered a blu-ray disc that it couldn't decrypt, which is justification enough for the cost of a makemkv license. You may find discussion of problems with just released titles on this forum, but it isn't long before the necessary keys are found and the database updated for everyone - again in a transparent manner.

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#3 Post by kevmitch » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:39 am

Oh, and there is nothing special required of the BD drive for BD+. It's the decryption software that matters. Similarly, BD drives themselves don't have regions like DVD - software must enforce regions, which makemkv chooses not to do.

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#4 Post by deesea » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:08 pm

Thanks kevmitch for your reply.

I agree with you, the cost of the license is well justified for this handy piece of software. I've had mine for a few years already.

As specific examples:

Enough Said 2013
All is Lost 2013

Both could not be decrypted. Protection shows "AACS v39, BD+ v2013.11" while latest available is v43. If it does matter, I've tried with MakeMKV 1.8.7 and 1.8.8 on MacOS-X Mountain Lion with the same results.

-deesea

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#5 Post by Woodstock » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:05 pm

You will sometimes see a report in the log that says that the BD+ was not properly decoded, no FUTs (fix-up tables) were found. There will then be a clickable link to submit the necessary information to MakeMKV support for Mike to generate a new SVQ file for that disk.

When he does, the SVQ will normally be automatically downloaded as needed, so "suddenly" the disk will work.

Best practice is to click the link, then post a message here about the disk or disks (and the fact that you clicked the link so that we don't ask you to do it again ;) ), and Mike will normally post an "SVQ Updated" message after he's created the new SVQ.

BD+ decoding is independent of the AACS encryption, by the way. AACS determines whether or not the drive will let you access the disk, while BD+ corrects deliberate distortion of the data on the disk.

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#6 Post by deesea » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:12 pm

Allright Woodstock, will do. Thanks.

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#7 Post by deesea » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:28 pm

Tried once more for All is Lost.

messages:

MakeMKV v1.8.8 darwin(x86-release) started
Optical drive "DVD+R-DL OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H 3AHF" opened in DASPI v1.3 mode.
Optical drive "BD-ROM Slimtype BD E DS4E1S EP58" opened in DASPI v1.3 mode.
Using direct disc access mode
Error 'Scsi error - STATUS_05' occurred while issuing SCSI command AD010..080002400 to device 'DASPI:IODASPIService:68986291890933aa:'
( snip )
Can't read AACS VID from disc - most likely current AACS host certificate is revoked by your drive
Highest AACS version is v43 , MKB saved as /Users/Dan/.MakeMKV/MKB_v43_Elysium.tgz
The volume key is unknown for this disc - video can't be decrypted
Failed to open disc

There is no clickable link shown. Browsed /Users/Dan/.MakeMKV to find something that may contain this information. Didn't find it.

deesea

EDIT: removed duplicate messages for brievity
Last edited by deesea on Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#8 Post by Woodstock » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:53 pm

Error 'Scsi error - STATUS_05' occurred while issuing SCSI command AD010..080002400 to device 'DASPI:IODASPIService:68986291890933aa:'
This pops up sometimes on Macs, and not just with MakeMKV. In searching the web, there are a lot of "Oh, I rebooted and it works now!" answers when the question is asked. But, I'm assuming by the delay between your original message and posting the log that you've tried the reboot solution.

Is this a USB-powered drive? If so, are you using the 2-plug cable to connect it, so that it can pull more power from the USB ports?

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#9 Post by deesea » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:06 pm

Awwwww ! Crapola !

Rebooted. Works. Thanks.

-deesea

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#10 Post by Woodstock » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:33 pm

The unfortunate problem with reboot-and-it-works is that makes it difficult to figure out WHY it didn't work in the first place... :(

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Re: So, what does it take for BD+ newer titles ?

#11 Post by deesea » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:50 pm

Dirty electrons ? :mrgreen:

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