dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

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norwichred
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dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#1 Post by norwichred » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:01 pm

I am trying to rip the four discs for season one and two for the BBC series Being Human. The problem is that the discs are encoded as 1080i VC-1.

This means that although Make MKV rips them fine, Handbrake can then not deal with the encodes as apparently they are not in it's libraries or something. You can tell I'm not very technical :)

So is there a way of getting MakeMKV to generate an HD file that Handbrake can read? Or failing that another way of getting the ouptut files into a format that I can put in iTunes to play through my AppleTV?

Thanks in advance.

Romansh
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#2 Post by Romansh » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:09 pm

Under Windows, RipBot264 (among others, IIRC) can use the Microsoft VC-1 decoder. Under OS X, you might be able to make it work via Flip4Mac.

norwichred
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#3 Post by norwichred » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:05 pm

Thank you.

Have you got any other suggestions for under windows? Ripbot only seems to download as some obscure zip type file and even after downloading the 7zip program it says it needs I can't open it.

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#4 Post by Chetwood » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:22 am

Staxrip, MeGUI, Hybrid.
MultiMakeMKV: MakeMKV batch processing (Win)
MultiShrink: DVD Shrink batch processing
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#5 Post by setarip_old » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:50 am

BD-Rebuilder - you'll be pleased ;>}

HTMLSpinnr
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#6 Post by HTMLSpinnr » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:54 pm

+1 on RipBot264. Doctor Who Series 5 (and the Christmas Special for Series 6) had the same problem as they were both 1080i VC-1 sources. The settings were not easy to come up with when trying to match my typical Handbrake settings. Going by memory, it took more than one attempt to get de-interlacing settings correct for a "decent" progressive showing. Because of the 25fps source, a good 3:2 pulldown (or 24p result) was difficult to achieve as the cadence was often "off". I also elected to re-merge the audio and subtitles via MKVMerge "after-the-fact" to simplify the encoding process.

Thankfully, Series 6 changed to AVC, which Handbrake was able to handle in a more comfortable setting.

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#7 Post by dannyboy48888 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:47 pm

@HTMLSpinnr in Avisynth I have to use cycle=6 with Tdecimate. I notice there is a custom detelcine box and in ffmpeg CLI via decimate you can specifity this. Is there a proper(ish) way to do so in handbrake?

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#8 Post by ndjamena » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:35 am

This is my experience with interlaced VC-1, and the David Tennant Doctor Who Specials using AVISynth

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3590 ... ng-a-frame

But I wish I'd read this beforehand:

http://horman.net/doctorwho/specials.php

(possibly not entirely relevant)

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#9 Post by dannyboy48888 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:21 am

Thanks, I have a fully working AVISynth solution, but would like to do the same in handbrake as editing AVS then remuxing ,etc in megui can become a chore is all.

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#10 Post by Romansh » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:52 pm

You'll just have to wait for https://reviews.handbrake.fr/r/559/ to land in the nightlies.

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#11 Post by dannyboy48888 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:32 pm

(deleted, misread previous post)
Last edited by dannyboy48888 on Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Romansh
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#12 Post by Romansh » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:28 pm

dannyboy48888 wrote:you reffering to mcdeint being dropped?
No, I'm referring to the updated libav version with support for interlaced B-frames.
dannyboy48888 wrote:I'll pull the svn latest and test....between that and B-frames working I may be able to nuke my virtualbox. Will post more in a bit
As I said in my previous post, you'll have to wait for it to land in SVN and then grab a nightly (or you can apply the patch and build HandBrake from source).

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#13 Post by dannyboy48888 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:57 pm

sorry, confusing nightly build with svn commit. Thanks and deleted last post

Romansh
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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#14 Post by Romansh » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:48 pm

Starting tomorrow (SVN 5965 and later), the HandBrake nightly builds should be able to decode interlaced VC-1 properly.

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Re: dealing with a 1080i VC-1 encode

#15 Post by dannyboy48888 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:55 pm

Awesome. The ffmpeg team accepted my ticket. Will wait 48 and do a svn checkout unless You say so sooner. Thanks

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