Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

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CoderJoe
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Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#1 Post by CoderJoe » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:10 am

Episode 9 ("Plants") is the 2nd episode on Disc Four. It appears to rip correctly, but it won't play. I've tried Totem 2.32.0, VLC 1.1.4, and MPlayer 1.0rc4-4.4.5.

I'm also unable to re-encode it with ffmpeg 0.8.3. (Actually, it's libav 0.8.3. Ubuntu packages libav instead of the ffmpeg.) It core dumps:

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Error while decoding stream #0.0
[vc1 @ 0x19548c0] concealing 0 DC, 0 AC, 0 MV errors
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
MakeMKV output:

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003307:0000 File 00110.mpls was added as title #1
...
005014:0000 Saving 1 titles into directory /storage/rips
004001:0000 Forced subtitles track #3 turned out to be empty and was removed from output file
005005:0080 1 titles saved
005036:0104 Copy complete. 1 titles saved.
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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#2 Post by Wondercow » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:49 am

The issue isn't with MakeMKV. That episode was recorded as 1080i60 while every other episode is 1080p24; this, in and of itself, isn't really a problem—however—all of the content is encoded in VC1 and an open-source codec for VC1 *interlaced* does not exist yet. The most recent version of VLC (2.0.3) can play some interlaced VC1 content (not very well, however) but the more demanding files simply crash it.

I used RipBot264 to transcode all of my interlaced VC1 rips to AVC and it worked really well, though it takes about three hours to get through a one hour long video.

-WC

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#3 Post by CoderJoe » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:18 am

Wondercow wrote:That episode was recorded as 1080i60 while every other episode is 1080p24; this, in and of itself, isn't really a problem—however—all of the content is encoded in VC1 and an open-source codec for VC1 *interlaced* does not exist yet.
Thanks! It all makes sense now. Except why would they encode this episode differently? Is it just a mistake?
Wondercow wrote:I used RipBot264 to transcode all of my interlaced VC1 rips to AVC and it worked really well, though it takes about three hours to get through a one hour long video.
Does RipBot264 have its own VC1 codec to handle interlaced video?

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#4 Post by Wondercow » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:14 pm

CoderJoe wrote:Thanks! It all makes sense now. Except why would they encode this episode differently? Is it just a mistake?
I have no idea, but if you check the box it says something to the effect of "all content 24p except episode 9 ..."
CoderJoe wrote:
Wondercow wrote:I used RipBot264 to transcode all of my interlaced VC1 rips to AVC and it worked really well, though it takes about three hours to get through a one hour long video.
Does RipBot264 have its own VC1 codec to handle interlaced video?
As I understand it, RipBot can access the official MS codec that Media Player uses. Thus it decodes a frame using VC1 then re-encodes it using h.264. Sorry I can't get more in-depth than that--I'm a Mac guy and I don't really care to learn the complexities of Windows, so I just assume it all done through fairies and magic :D

Edit:
I should also mention that it took 2.5-3 hours to transcode each hour of video on my machine. I'm running Windows 7 64-bit through Parallels Desktop with eight CPUs (@2.26 GHz) and four GB of RAM allocated to the VM.

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#5 Post by Romansh » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:33 pm

Note that under OS X, Flip4Mac's WMV decoder may reportedly be able to decode interlaced VC-1.

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#6 Post by Wondercow » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:59 pm

Romansh wrote:Note that under OS X, Flip4Mac's WMV decoder may reportedly be able to decode interlaced VC-1.
Have you ever tried to watch a feature-length HD MKV in QuickTime? :evil: That said it does actually work, but the performance is really bad with lots of jumping, freezing, etc. (I just tested it on a 150 MB clip of the intro to Earth: The Biography).

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#7 Post by Romansh » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:04 pm

Wondercow wrote:
Romansh wrote:Note that under OS X, Flip4Mac's WMV decoder may reportedly be able to decode interlaced VC-1.
Have you ever tried to watch a feature-length HD MKV in QuickTime? :evil: That said it does actually work, but the performance is really bad with lots of jumping, freezing, etc. (I just tested it on a 150 MB clip of the intro to Earth: The Biography).
I never said it was playable. It *might* be worthwhile in a scenario where you re-encode the video though.

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Re: Life (2009 BBC) (David Attenborough Version), Episode 9

#8 Post by CoderJoe » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:10 pm

Wondercow wrote:I have no idea, but if you check the box it says something to the effect of "all content 24p except episode 9 ..."
Sure enough, the box says "1080p *Except PLANTS which is 1080i".
Wondercow wrote:As I understand it, RipBot can access the official MS codec that Media Player uses. .. I just assume it all done through fairies and magic :D
I think I'll go with your 1st explanation. The problem with the 2nd explanation is... well, how do fairies and magic work, huh? :D
Wondercow wrote:I should also mention that it took 2.5-3 hours to transcode each hour of video on my machine. I'm running Windows 7 64-bit through Parallels Desktop with eight CPUs (@2.26 GHz) and four GB of RAM allocated to the VM.
I guess I shouldn't bother with my ancient Athlon Windows box. My Linux desktop has a Core i5 2500k quad core with 8GB RAM. I'll probably try Windows on VirtualBox.

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