SDF update November 2025

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
Billycar11
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by Billycar11 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:49 am

lee_bleh wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:12 am
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-X13U
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: BBDL001208WL
Firmware date: 2021-12-19
Bus encryption flags: 1B

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID43

Not sure if i'm doing something wrong here, updated SDF, power cycled etc.

This drive is actually generating a dump file though but its only 982KB, i've sent it through to support@makemkv.com once in Dec 2024 and at the start of this month.
FYI you can cross flash that if you want to
Email me for details see below
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MartyMcNuts
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by MartyMcNuts » Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:03 pm

greg1wto66 wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:03 am
My BDR-X13E-X is not supported yet. I know it will take some time before every drive becomes LibreDrive enabled, but from what I understood from Mike’s post, the new SDF update should allow creating a full firmware dump.
However, my dump file is only 3 KB instead of the expected full firmware dump of around 2 MB. Is this normal, or did something go wrong?

Info
Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profie: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR -X13X
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: DHDLO000 xxxx
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS versiom. 77
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID 10
No dise inserted
Send it in to support@makemkv.com anyway. I had some that were 1kb in size and another that was 948kb but the file inside was 4mb.
Cheers :D
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jmc74
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by jmc74 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:12 am

Hello, newbie here...

Just ordered a Pioneer BDR-209BDK. Is this a good LibreDrive? Does it need to be flashed? And can this read UHD?
Also, I own an older LG Blu-Ray/HD DVD can this be any good?

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW GGC-H20L
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: K5189A84635
Firmware date: 2008-05-15 12:34:56
Highest AACS version: 19

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: 1.03-

Disc Information
Label: STAR_WARS_3_SITH
Timestamp: 2003-03-01 15:31:00
Data capacity: 4.33 Gb
Disc type: DVD-R
Disc size: 120mm
Number of layers: 1 (PTP)

TIA

MartyMcNuts
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:59 am

jmc74 wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:12 am
Hello, newbie here...

Just ordered a Pioneer BDR-209BDK. Is this a good LibreDrive? Does it need to be flashed? And can this read UHD?
Also, I own an older LG Blu-Ray/HD DVD can this be any good?

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW GGC-H20L
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: K5189A84635
Firmware date: 2008-05-15 12:34:56
Highest AACS version: 19

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: 1.03-

Disc Information
Label: STAR_WARS_3_SITH
Timestamp: 2003-03-01 15:31:00
Data capacity: 4.33 Gb
Disc type: DVD-R
Disc size: 120mm
Number of layers: 1 (PTP)

TIA
The Pioneer should be able to be cross-flashed. The LG is too old and the wrong drive platform.
Cheers :D
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greg1wto66
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by greg1wto66 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:34 am

MartyMcNuts wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:03 pm
greg1wto66 wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:03 am
My BDR-X13E-X is not supported yet. I know it will take some time before every drive becomes LibreDrive enabled, but from what I understood from Mike’s post, the new SDF update should allow creating a full firmware dump.
However, my dump file is only 3 KB instead of the expected full firmware dump of around 2 MB. Is this normal, or did something go wrong?

Info
Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profie: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR -X13X
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: DHDLO000 xxxx
Firmware date: 2023-08-01
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS versiom. 77
LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: Pioneer RS9401
Firmware version: ID 10
No dise inserted
Send it in to support@makemkv.com anyway. I had some that were 1kb in size and another that was 948kb but the file inside was 4mb.
Thanks
I already sent a full dump to support 2 days ago Btw I had to delete makemkv folder so when I run makemkv again it downloaded sdf bin and created proper full size dump.

mike admin
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by mike admin » Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:36 am

greg1wto66 wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:34 am
I already sent a full dump to support 2 days ago Btw I had to delete makemkv folder so when I run makemkv again it downloaded sdf bin and created proper full size dump.
Added.

greg1wto66
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by greg1wto66 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:23 pm

It works flawlessly. :D
Thanks Mike

bodivijay1985
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by bodivijay1985 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 8:10 pm

LibreDrive enabled and drive works flawlessly

Drive Information
OS device name: D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-XS08U
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: BLDLXXXXXXJP
Firmware date: 2022-10-11
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 61

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS9621
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-BDS8
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.00/ID69
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Thank you very much mike_admin, appreciate your hard work and effort.

Thank you,
Bodivijay1985

moonspell79
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by moonspell79 » Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:47 pm

Thanks :D it works here with my Pioneer BDR-209M 1.55fw . BTW, it's still not possible to downgrade from firmware 1.55 :x and crossflash to a BDR-211..?

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-209M
Revision: 1.55
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2023-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 19

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8600
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-209
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.55/ID60
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

Coopervid
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by Coopervid » Mon Nov 17, 2025 9:34 pm

moonspell79 wrote:
Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:47 pm
Thanks :D it works here with my Pioneer BDR-209M 1.55fw . BTW, it's still not possible to downgrade from firmware 1.55 :x and crossflash to a BDR-211..?

Drive Information
OS device name: F:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: BD-RW BDR-209M
Revision: 1.55
Serial number:
Firmware date: 2023-02-16
Bus encryption flags: 13
Highest AACS version: 19

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: RS8600
Firmware name: PIONEER BDR-209
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.55/ID60
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
Correct.

Vaako
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by Vaako » Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:35 am

mike admin wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 10:38 pm
Vaako wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:11 pm
Trying to get my Pioneer BDR-212EBK with FW 1.05 to work but without success.
Please send the firmware dump from this drive, MakeMKV should create the file (dump_fw_xxx.tgz) automatically.
@mike admin
.
It is working great !
.
Thank you so much Mike !!
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mc_link
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by mc_link » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:17 pm

VA1DER wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:20 pm
It bears mentioning that BDXL and UHD are different beasts. Physically, three-layer BDXL and UHD are almost identical, both using 33.3GB per layer and slightly shorter pits and lands than normal. But the BDA wanted to protect itself and licensed them separately. Any drive that is physically capable of BDXL is also capable of UHD and vice versa. The firmware is designed to specifically lock them out, though.
Is there some way to tell conclusively whether any particular drive is potentially UHD capable?

I have a Pioneer BDR-WX1DM (revision 1.01) on platform RS8801 (firmware date 2023) that I bought in panic when the Pioneer stocks started to dry up. It works well on standard BDs with the new SDF but not currently UHDs. It would be really handy to know without doubt if it's a drive that could in theory be 'unlocked' to allow UHD in the future if the good people at MakeMKV find a way, or not.

I see folks on these forums all the time saying things like, 'Oh that drive is UHD capable, it needs flashing', or 'No, that drive won't ever be able to access UHDs', so there must be some way of knowing?

Thanks!

SamuriHL
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by SamuriHL » Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:09 pm

Post the drive information from the MakeMKV window.

Billycar11
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by Billycar11 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:03 pm

mc_link wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:17 pm
VA1DER wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:20 pm
It bears mentioning that BDXL and UHD are different beasts. Physically, three-layer BDXL and UHD are almost identical, both using 33.3GB per layer and slightly shorter pits and lands than normal. But the BDA wanted to protect itself and licensed them separately. Any drive that is physically capable of BDXL is also capable of UHD and vice versa. The firmware is designed to specifically lock them out, though.
Is there some way to tell conclusively whether any particular drive is potentially UHD capable?

I have a Pioneer BDR-WX1DM (revision 1.01) on platform RS8801 (firmware date 2023) that I bought in panic when the Pioneer stocks started to dry up. It works well on standard BDs with the new SDF but not currently UHDs. It would be really handy to know without doubt if it's a drive that could in theory be 'unlocked' to allow UHD in the future if the good people at MakeMKV find a way, or not.

I see folks on these forums all the time saying things like, 'Oh that drive is UHD capable, it needs flashing', or 'No, that drive won't ever be able to access UHDs', so there must be some way of knowing?

Thanks!
Its not a UHD drive sadly I have 1 though to experiment with someday it can probably be cross flashed to x13ux or us but takes a lot of work
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to video maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
UHD Drives Guide: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634
Auto flash kit $25 Email me for one Billycar5924@gmail.com

Coopervid
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Re: SDF update November 2025

Post by Coopervid » Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:16 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:03 pm
mc_link wrote:
Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:17 pm
VA1DER wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:20 pm
It bears mentioning that BDXL and UHD are different beasts. Physically, three-layer BDXL and UHD are almost identical, both using 33.3GB per layer and slightly shorter pits and lands than normal. But the BDA wanted to protect itself and licensed them separately. Any drive that is physically capable of BDXL is also capable of UHD and vice versa. The firmware is designed to specifically lock them out, though.
Is there some way to tell conclusively whether any particular drive is potentially UHD capable?

I have a Pioneer BDR-WX1DM (revision 1.01) on platform RS8801 (firmware date 2023) that I bought in panic when the Pioneer stocks started to dry up. It works well on standard BDs with the new SDF but not currently UHDs. It would be really handy to know without doubt if it's a drive that could in theory be 'unlocked' to allow UHD in the future if the good people at MakeMKV find a way, or not.

I see folks on these forums all the time saying things like, 'Oh that drive is UHD capable, it needs flashing', or 'No, that drive won't ever be able to access UHDs', so there must be some way of knowing?

Thanks!
Its not a UHD drive sadly I have 1 though to experiment with someday it can probably be cross flashed to x13ux or us but takes a lot of work
Are you sure? 8801 indicates a S11 /211 drive.

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