Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Rororororo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Rororororo » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:53 am

Hello @RESET_9999, could you provide more details about T1-T2-T3-T4 analysis and how it affects metadata, or point to a relevant source?
I tried googling it, quoting it with “resolve studio,” etc., and searching this topic, but I wasn't able to find anything except replacing L1, L2, L3, etc., which doesn't say much.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:01 am

geofox784 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:51 am
May be a dumb question, but I've done a fair amount of research and still don't 100% understand.

In the Dolby Vision Stuff google sheet I see chart "ENCODER GROUPS TO AVOID BECAUSE THEY DONT ENCODE DV FEL PROPERLY"

I have a AM6B+ so I can playback DV Profile 7. I wanted to confirm that I understand encoding correctly. If the group that created an mkv left the file as a Profile 7 release instead of baking the FEL / encoding it into Profile 8, is no encoding actually occurring when the MKV is created from the original bluray disk files? Wouldn't this be a lossless packaging of the data directly into an MKV format?

For example, if a release is titled "███.2025.2160p.UHD.BluRay.REMUX.DV.P7.HDR.ENG.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.H265-BEN.THE.MEN", does it matter that the release group is in the "avoid" list?

Mediainfo shows "HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, Profile 7.6, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, no metadata compression, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, Version HDR10, HDR10 compatible"
if it's a remux, it should be fine...
That list is only for the encodes and that guy ben the men encodes are ridiculously bad: https://slow.pics/c/Yp0F0UWf
Rororororo wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:53 am
Hello @RESET_9999, could you provide more details about T1-T2-T3-T4 analysis and how it affects metadata, or point to a relevant source?
I tried googling it, quoting it with “resolve studio,” etc., and searching this topic, but I wasn't able to find anything except replacing L1, L2, L3, etc., which doesn't say much.

Thanks !
https://slow.pics/c/OA0pupEN?canvas-mode=fit-width
https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by coopzr » Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:24 am

The release of the recent dim movies (F1, Jurassic World Rebirth, and Superman) got me thinking... Is there any brightness (or lack of) where it would be better to watch the SDR release instead?

As my TV is not professionally calibrated, I think it's still better to go HDR in my situation, as I know the brightness will better match the artist's intent (as opposed to my SDR brightness, which is just eyeballed).

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by geofox784 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:25 am

> That list is only for the encodes

Have you found that most releases labeled "remux" are truly lossless remuxes, or do you have to watch out for releases labeled as a remux, but that are actually an encode that has been labeled as a remux that may have some small changed like changing from P7 to P8?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by LV8HD » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:28 am

@RESET_9999 do you always generate new Dolby Vision metadata even for CMv2.9 retail P7 with manually done trim passing?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:02 am

coopzr wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:24 am
The release of the recent dim movies (F1, Jurassic World Rebirth, and Superman) got me thinking... Is there any brightness (or lack of) where it would be better to watch the SDR release instead?

As my TV is not professionally calibrated, I think it's still better to go HDR in my situation, as I know the brightness will better match the artist's intent (as opposed to my SDR brightness, which is just eyeballed).
These movies are only dim compared to SDR if you don't watch SDR at reference level (100-150nits). At reference level, the HDR in these movies still win, see my youtube comparisons.
geofox784 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:25 am
> That list is only for the encodes

Have you found that most releases labeled "remux" are truly lossless remuxes, or do you have to watch out for releases labeled as a remux, but that are actually an encode that has been labeled as a remux that may have some small changed like changing from P7 to P8?
if the filename says remux, it's most likely a remux. P8 ones are probably hybrid with metadata taken from web source.
LV8HD wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:28 am
@RESET_9999 do you always generate new Dolby Vision metadata even for CMv2.9 retail P7 with manually done trim passing?
only the 4000nits MDL ones
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by LV8HD » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:07 am

RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:02 am
only the 4000nits MDL ones
Why is this?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:16 am

LV8HD wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:07 am
RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:02 am
only the 4000nits MDL ones
Why is this?
only that causes an issue on my G5:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1289366200
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Sep 21, 2025 2:45 pm

Has anyone noticed that the scene cuts (workflow 2-1 in Dovi Scripts) for Alien from 1979 are rather strange and unusual compared to almost all other movies. The UHD is HDR10 plus and I ripped it myself from disc with makemkv. Same goes for the H265 remux you can find on the Internet. So my rip is definitely fine.
Anyone noticed the same? Theatrical Cut by the way.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:53 pm

If you're referring to the HDR10+ scene cuts, we no longer use them when generating DV. They often don't make sense, and Resolve's scene cut detection does a better job.

daffie wrote:
Sun Sep 21, 2025 2:45 pm
Has anyone noticed that the scene cuts (workflow 2-1 in Dovi Scripts) for Alien from 1979 are rather strange and unusual compared to almost all other movies. The UHD is HDR10 plus and I ripped it myself from disc with makemkv. Same goes for the H265 remux you can find on the Internet. So my rip is definitely fine.
Anyone noticed the same? Theatrical Cut by the way.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:02 pm

@RESET

Thanks. How to use Resolve's scene cut detection in your scripts?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Sun Sep 21, 2025 6:21 pm

The script defaults to using internal/external scene cuts or madvr to generate them, so you will have to remove HDR10plus(2-2) to force madvr.
You could also use 6-2 to create the scene cuts. Rename the generated RPU the same as the mkv and run 3-1
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:50 am

@RESET_9999
What do you think about the Kodi app on android tv? I just installed the app on my Sony a95l and it seems to play all the Dolby Vision 4K remuxes smoothly. Might be a good option for those that can't get the Ugoos.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:01 am

I dont know, never had a Sony TV
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:39 pm

RESET_9999 wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:01 am
I dont know, never had a Sony TV
Not necessarily a sony. Any android tv?

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