Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11161 Post by jayper » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:38 pm

Do we know what is most recommended for ugoos playback?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11162 Post by FLarnhill » Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:17 am

skull88 wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:52 pm Hmm, the back of the retail box shows Dolby Vision for sure, so unless it's weird authoring mistake, maybe you should also try and remux from .m2ts using mkvtoolnix or latest DGDemux to confirm?
So, I've done all of this and the same outcome: no DV. Given the fact this movie has a Dolby grade for disc, should it be easier to make a hybrid? Or should I still check the brightness and frame delays?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11163 Post by Rororororo » Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:30 am

FLarnhill wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:17 am So, I've done all of this and the same outcome: no DV. Given the fact this movie has a Dolby grade for disc, should it be easier to make a hybrid? Or should I still check the brightness and frame delays?

Could you check the .m2ts file with BDInfo?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11164 Post by staknhalo » Tue Sep 02, 2025 5:50 pm

Dolby Vision 2

https://www.techpowerup.com/340580/dolb ... y-vision-2
Dolby Laboratories, Inc., a leader in immersive entertainment experiences, today announced Dolby Vision 2, a groundbreaking evolution of its industry-leading picture quality innovation. Hisense is the first TV brand to announce it will bring Dolby Vision 2 to its lineup of premium televisions, such as RGB-MiniLED TVs. This is complemented by the leading French media and entertainment company CANAL+, which has also announced its commitment to support Dolby Vision 2.

For over a decade, Dolby Vision has pushed picture quality forward as the gold standard for premium HDR. Dolby Vision 2 builds on this success and is designed specifically to meet the evolving opportunities of television experiences today, serving as one piece of Dolby's broader mission to advance picture quality across all entertainment and devices, from the biggest to smallest screens.
After reading the entire article, sounds like (from what I can discern so far) more of a beefed up DV IQ - two way tone mapping is (assumingly) talking about matching content to the screen traditionally, and then matching the screen to the environment via camera/light inputs etc. Besides the new things they talk about like auto black/white matching? and motion control!

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11165 Post by kazuma » Thu Sep 04, 2025 7:37 pm

@RESET_9999

how long does is take to make a RPU for a movie?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11166 Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:02 pm

With my pc i9 13900ks + RTX 3070 + pci-e gen4 7gbps drives for a 1h30 movie:

prores encoding: 20-25min
scene cut detection: 10min
DV analysis: 10min
injecting remuxing: 6-8min

If I decide to do trim pass(es), then it can take me hours to monitor each shot one by one and make target adjustments
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11167 Post by kazuma » Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:10 pm

RESET_9999 wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:02 pm With my pc i9 13900ks + RTX 3070 + pci-e gen4 7gbps drives for a 1h30 movie:

prores encoding: 20-25min
scene cut detection: 10min
DV analysis: 10min
injecting remuxing: 6-8min

If I decide to do trim pass(es), then it can take me hours to monitor each shot one by one and make target adjustments
wow, i didn't know it was time-consuming like this with your high-end pc.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11168 Post by ragico » Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:30 pm

@quietvoid
Will you implement AV1 codec support in your excellent dovi tool?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11169 Post by quietvoid » Fri Sep 05, 2025 1:54 am

ragico wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:30 pm @quietvoid
Will you implement AV1 codec support in your excellent dovi tool?
Eventually, very busy these days.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11170 Post by deadchip12 » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:40 am

@RESET9999
Do you know the best way to move my coreelec cpm a14 build from the existing usb stick to another usb stick with all the settings intact?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11171 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:30 am

deadchip12 wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:40 am @RESET9999
Do you know the best way to move my coreelec cpm a14 build from the existing usb stick to another usb stick with all the settings intact?
no idea, ask on the avsforum thread
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11172 Post by geofox784 » Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:51 am

May be a dumb question, but I've done a fair amount of research and still don't 100% understand.

In the Dolby Vision Stuff google sheet I see chart "ENCODER GROUPS TO AVOID BECAUSE THEY DONT ENCODE DV FEL PROPERLY"

I have a AM6B+ so I can playback DV Profile 7. I wanted to confirm that I understand encoding correctly. If the group that created an mkv left the file as a Profile 7 release instead of baking the FEL / encoding it into Profile 8, is no encoding actually occurring when the MKV is created from the original bluray disk files? Wouldn't this be a lossless packaging of the data directly into an MKV format?

For example, if a release is titled "███.2025.2160p.UHD.BluRay.REMUX.DV.P7.HDR.ENG.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.H265-BEN.THE.MEN", does it matter that the release group is in the "avoid" list?

Mediainfo shows "HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, Profile 7.6, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, no metadata compression, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, Version HDR10, HDR10 compatible"

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11173 Post by Rororororo » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:53 am

Hello @RESET_9999, could you provide more details about T1-T2-T3-T4 analysis and how it affects metadata, or point to a relevant source?
I tried googling it, quoting it with “resolve studio,” etc., and searching this topic, but I wasn't able to find anything except replacing L1, L2, L3, etc., which doesn't say much.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11174 Post by RESET_9999 » Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:01 am

geofox784 wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 1:51 am May be a dumb question, but I've done a fair amount of research and still don't 100% understand.

In the Dolby Vision Stuff google sheet I see chart "ENCODER GROUPS TO AVOID BECAUSE THEY DONT ENCODE DV FEL PROPERLY"

I have a AM6B+ so I can playback DV Profile 7. I wanted to confirm that I understand encoding correctly. If the group that created an mkv left the file as a Profile 7 release instead of baking the FEL / encoding it into Profile 8, is no encoding actually occurring when the MKV is created from the original bluray disk files? Wouldn't this be a lossless packaging of the data directly into an MKV format?

For example, if a release is titled "███.2025.2160p.UHD.BluRay.REMUX.DV.P7.HDR.ENG.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.H265-BEN.THE.MEN", does it matter that the release group is in the "avoid" list?

Mediainfo shows "HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, Profile 7.6, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, no metadata compression, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, Version HDR10, HDR10 compatible"
if it's a remux, it should be fine...
That list is only for the encodes and that guy ben the men encodes are ridiculously bad: https://slow.pics/c/Yp0F0UWf
Rororororo wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:53 am Hello @RESET_9999, could you provide more details about T1-T2-T3-T4 analysis and how it affects metadata, or point to a relevant source?
I tried googling it, quoting it with “resolve studio,” etc., and searching this topic, but I wasn't able to find anything except replacing L1, L2, L3, etc., which doesn't say much.

Thanks !
https://slow.pics/c/OA0pupEN?canvas-mode=fit-width
https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

#11175 Post by coopzr » Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:24 am

The release of the recent dim movies (F1, Jurassic World Rebirth, and Superman) got me thinking... Is there any brightness (or lack of) where it would be better to watch the SDR release instead?

As my TV is not professionally calibrated, I think it's still better to go HDR in my situation, as I know the brightness will better match the artist's intent (as opposed to my SDR brightness, which is just eyeballed).