Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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daffie
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am

In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm

daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:04 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm
daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.
Not really an option for me. My Ugoos is hooked up below in the living room. My pc is upstairs in the bedroom :)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:43 pm

daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:04 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm
daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.
Not really an option for me. My Ugoos is hooked up below in the living room. My pc is upstairs in the bedroom :)
Well then I guess in your case a powerful router to handle 4k hdr streaming is the way to go.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Trees » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:49 pm

According to my calculations:

HDR10 (10-bit): Approximately 1.07 billion colors,
Profile 5 Dolby Vision / IPTPQc2 (equivalent to 11.5-bit): Approximately 22.4 billion colors,
Profile 7 Dolby Vision (FEL, 12-bit): Approximately 68.7 billion colors.

Is this correct?

I can't find a definite source saying Profile 5 can display X amount of colours, so I had to do some calculations based on what we do know (HDR10 and Profile 7 FEL).

A lot of people seem to think P8 + RPU (purely based on BD bit rate, but 4K WEB-DLs look practically the same as 4K BD releases these days, bit rate doesn't really mean anything anymore with the current highly efficient WEB-DLs, not to mention the potential BL + RPU brightness mismatch problems) is better than P5 RPU, but the numbers don't lie.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Tue Jul 01, 2025 7:44 am

P7 FEL > P5 > P8 (= P7 MEL)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:27 pm

daffie wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 7:44 am
P7 FEL > P5 > P8 (= P7 MEL)
Usually it's very hard for me to find the P5 version of a tv series online. Most are P8.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by coopzr » Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:45 pm

The Amateur 2025 appears to be static DV with no dynamic trims.

Would you recommend generating DV? Why/Why not?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:50 pm

The whole movie is under 175nits, it would be a waste of time and wouldn't make any difference unless you have a low-nit projector.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by flojo » Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:30 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:43 pm
... a powerful router to handle 4k ...
Not really, only WiFi 5 (802.11ac) 5.4GHz is required. If needed, just mix in a 5.4GHz WiFi 5 "mini repeater". It might work fine straight to the Ugoos through a couple walls, but I've never tried it.

* You _CANNOT_ use the 2.4GHz compatibility/IoT band.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by djanvi2020 » Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:48 am

new question,

DoVi Script and keeping with the Dolby Atmos track as it is, i use the app and it now finally works like a treat however, i use Infuse to watch them and i got my HomePods together and i know the audio track is Dolby Atmos however it shows up Dolby True HD 7.1 and yet i have an Atmos track on Infuse , why's that and what do i need to use to keep the Dolby Atmos track rather than True HD?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by dcoke22 » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:46 am

djanvi2020 wrote:
Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:48 am
new question,

DoVi Script and keeping with the Dolby Atmos track as it is, i use the app and it now finally works like a treat however, i use Infuse to watch them and i got my HomePods together and i know the audio track is Dolby Atmos however it shows up Dolby True HD 7.1 and yet i have an Atmos track on Infuse , why's that and what do i need to use to keep the Dolby Atmos track rather than True HD?
Infuse supports Dolby Atmos in E-AC3 audio tracks, not in Dolby True HD audio tracks. This is probably a limitation of tvOS on an AppleTV. (https://support.firecore.com/hc/en-us/articles/217735707-Audio-Options-Capabilities)

The forthcoming tvOS 26 is going to support proper audio passthrough. When that happens you can use something external, like a receiver, to do the audio decoding. (https://hometheaterreview.com/passthrough-audio-is-coming-to-apple-tv-but-youll-still-have-to-wait/)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:35 pm

daffie wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:05 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:42 pm
Just used your files to test black crush.
SDR looked the most accurate—I could see all the flashing bars up to 65 from my seat (1.2m from the 65-inch TV). HDR10 crushed blacks more; in order to see the 65 bar, I had to move my face closer to the screen.
Dolby Vision was by far the worst—I could barely see past the 90 bar.
Then, I realized why. A few months ago, an update caused black screens in Dolby Vision to no longer appear as true black. Based on recommendations from forum users, I lowered the RGB-Bias to -4 in the advanced color settings to counteract this. When I raised it back from -4 to 0, I could see the bars up to 67 if I moved closer to the screen. So, it still crushes blacks more than HDR10 but is better. The problem is that black is no longer true black again.
Do you have any solutions for this?
If I'm not mistaken, you should see 66–67 flashing from a normal distance, and 65 only when looking about one foot away from the screen. Of course, all of this is in a dark room without lights.
Wrong.
Bar 64 is reference black. Bar 64 and everything below it should be black. Bar 65 and 66 should also be impossible to see it flashing. The first visible bar should be 67. But barely with your nose on the screen. This is all written down in the Calman calibration guide you can find on the Internet.
I did some testing yesterday and noticed something.
I played @RESET9999 near black flashing bar test pattern in hdr10 on my lg c9 (via built in media player) and compared it against my sony a95l (via the Ugoos). The c9 had noticeably brighter near blacks than the a95l. I could even see the 65 bar flashing from a normal viewing distance on the c9, which I suppose indicated near blacks being too bright based on the documentation you posted.
However, when I played some dark scenes from a movie like Furiosa, the c9 looked a lot more natural and "correct" to my eyes thanks to all the shadow details being visible with proper gradation, while the a95l looked crushed.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:19 am

deadchip12 wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:35 pm
daffie wrote:
Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:21 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:05 pm


If I'm not mistaken, you should see 66–67 flashing from a normal distance, and 65 only when looking about one foot away from the screen. Of course, all of this is in a dark room without lights.
Wrong.
Bar 64 is reference black. Bar 64 and everything below it should be black. Bar 65 and 66 should also be impossible to see it flashing. The first visible bar should be 67. But barely with your nose on the screen. This is all written down in the Calman calibration guide you can find on the Internet.
I did some testing yesterday and noticed something.
I played @RESET9999 near black flashing bar test pattern in hdr10 on my lg c9 (via built in media player) and compared it against my sony a95l (via the Ugoos). The c9 had noticeably brighter near blacks than the a95l. I could even see the 65 bar flashing from a normal viewing distance on the c9, which I suppose indicated near blacks being too bright based on the documentation you posted.
However, when I played some dark scenes from a movie like Furiosa, the c9 looked a lot more natural and "correct" to my eyes thanks to all the shadow details being visible with proper gradation, while the a95l looked crushed.
I would also prefer more detail over perfect blacks. So yeah, I would prefer flashing of bar 65 over flashing of bar 70 (just an example).
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by ragico » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:15 pm

Hi RESET_9999 ,
Karate Kid Legends has got both DV8 and HDR10+
I want to remove HDR10+ and use your scripts workflow 2-2
Everyhting was done and the resulting file is "Karate Kid Legends_HDR10plus_removed". But why his framerate is 25.000 fps whilst the original movie is 23.976 fps?
Thanks

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