Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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bluray4k
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by bluray4k » Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:26 pm

Ok, that's what I figured, I don't know if the newer LG TVs even have the decoding hardware required for profile 7. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by darrrkmanxxx » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:58 am

RESET_9999 wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:55 pm
bluray4k wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:27 pm
RESET_9999, do you have more details about the webOS 2025 update? Will it enable profile 7 FEL playback via the Jellyfin or Kodi apps on my G4, meaning that I won't need to use my Ugoos AM6B+ with CoreELEC anymore? I like the Ugoos box, but having this done natively on the TV would be even better!

I tried searching for this, but your post is the only relevant result.
This update will allow only P8 and P5 in an MKV container. P7 support on LG TVs was removed in 2020, and the Ugoos will be the best and only P7 player forever.

And I wouldn't use the TVs internal player for DV playback: https://slow.pics/c/IBNzcYOA
What's the name of the colorspace test file?
I'm sorry but I can't find it.
Im thinking about getting the ugoos.
Is the am6 still the go to model, or can I get the newer one like am8 pro or am9?
Also my TV has only HDMI2.0b, will the player-led stuff be supported?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:53 am

darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:58 am
What's the name of the colorspace test file?
I'm sorry but I can't find it.
Im thinking about getting the ugoos.
Is the am6 still the go to model, or can I get the newer one like am8 pro or am9?
Also my TV has only HDMI2.0b, will the player-led stuff be supported?
yes am6b+ is the way to go. newer models don't support FEL.
and yes of course, player led is supported.

patterns are here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... drive_link
Sorry for my English.
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Epedemic
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Epedemic » Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:56 pm

BTW: MPC-HC on windows have been able to decode DV for some time using LAV filters and MPC Video Renderer. What is the take on this? (especially when using an external display)

Also LAV filters 0.8 released recently claims to support DV metadata natively (but it appears broken for now, based on the latest MPC-HC nightly which includes LAV 0.8 )

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:14 pm

i dont know, never tried
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:07 am

@RESET9999

I usually run dovi_scripts (mostly for transferring CMV 4.0 from the web to the Blu-ray version) on the external HDD connected to my PC. Afterward, I unplug it from the PC and plug it into the Ugoos to watch movies. To avoid these plug/unplug steps, I'm thinking about running dovi_scripts on the external HDD connected to the Ugoos via an SMB share from my PC. Is this advisable? I tried it this morning, and it seems quite a bit slower than on the PC.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:01 pm

it will be limited by the ugoos network(1gbps) speed so yeah, it will be much slower than a PC with a SSD or nvme drive.
Sorry for my English.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Epedemic » Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:02 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:07 am
@RESET9999

I usually run dovi_scripts (mostly for transferring CMV 4.0 from the web to the Blu-ray version) on the external HDD connected to my PC. Afterward, I unplug it from the PC and plug it into the Ugoos to watch movies. To avoid these plug/unplug steps, I'm thinking about running dovi_scripts on the external HDD connected to the Ugoos via an SMB share from my PC. Is this advisable? I tried it this morning, and it seems quite a bit slower than on the PC.
Yeah, SMB seems to be limited to 30MB/s in both directions (even though it does go higher, seemingly by random, from time to time) You can try NFS for faster network speeds, but it is complicated to set up and not super stable either. I just download stuff directly to the box (using midnight commander) or move my disks to a pc if i need to move huge volumes.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:56 am

@RESET_9999 @Epedemic

Sorry I meant the external hdd was connected to the ugoos via usb, so dovi_scripts was running on the ugoos (I only operated it from my pc via smb share), so network speed is not relevant here, correct? The ugoos is probably not capable enough to run dovi_scripts, that's why the process took much longer?

Anyway I bought a ugreen usb 3.0 switch, so now I can share the external hdd between my pc and the ugoos. So switch to pc connection when I run dovi scripts, and switch to ugoos connection when I watch movies - just need to press one button to switch, no more plugging/unplugging. So far so good. I can share other devices like mouse and keyboard too. Operating the ugoos with mouse and keyboard feels way better than the remote.
This method is probably cheaper than buying a brand new router that can handle high bitrate 4k hdr plex streaming from my pc to the ugoos, and I don't need to turn the pc on everytime I watch on the ugoos.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am

In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm

daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:04 pm

deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm
daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.
Not really an option for me. My Ugoos is hooked up below in the living room. My pc is upstairs in the bedroom :)
LG OLED65G1RLA / Samsung HW-Q990D / Sony UBP-X800M2 / Ugoos AM6B+ (CE with CPM Build)

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:43 pm

daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:04 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:37 pm
daffie wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:49 am
In order to do that you have to connect both the Ugoos and your PC to the "ugreen usb 3.0 switch"?
Correct?
Yes.
Not really an option for me. My Ugoos is hooked up below in the living room. My pc is upstairs in the bedroom :)
Well then I guess in your case a powerful router to handle 4k hdr streaming is the way to go.

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Trees » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:49 pm

According to my calculations:

HDR10 (10-bit): Approximately 1.07 billion colors,
Profile 5 Dolby Vision / IPTPQc2 (equivalent to 11.5-bit): Approximately 22.4 billion colors,
Profile 7 Dolby Vision (FEL, 12-bit): Approximately 68.7 billion colors.

Is this correct?

I can't find a definite source saying Profile 5 can display X amount of colours, so I had to do some calculations based on what we do know (HDR10 and Profile 7 FEL).

A lot of people seem to think P8 + RPU (purely based on BD bit rate, but 4K WEB-DLs look practically the same as 4K BD releases these days, bit rate doesn't really mean anything anymore with the current highly efficient WEB-DLs, not to mention the potential BL + RPU brightness mismatch problems) is better than P5 RPU, but the numbers don't lie.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by daffie » Tue Jul 01, 2025 7:44 am

P7 FEL > P5 > P8 (= P7 MEL)
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